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How about waiting what Apple has to say and offer, before we judge 'em? Crazy proposal, I know, but perhaps they have some real, technical reason for this move and will offer a new feature instead (such as e.g. waterproofing, noise-cancelling etc.)? If there's no convincing explanation during introduction of the new iPhone generation, it's still early enough to complain ...
What do you mean noise canceling?

Their are phones thinner/as thin as the phone, that are waterproof oh and guess what? They have headphone jacks. Oh an they also have wireless charging, bigger batteries etc

Just one lame excuse after another
 
How about waiting what Apple has to say and offer, before we judge 'em? Crazy proposal, I know, but perhaps they have some real, technical reason for this move and will offer a new feature instead (such as e.g. waterproofing, noise-cancelling etc.)? If there's no convincing explanation during introduction of the new iPhone generation, it's still early enough to complain ...

Well, many of us know that apple is a company that takes risks – lighting, 30pin, firewire and removal of many many industrial standards. I'm pretty sure the removal of the audio jack is partly due to monetary reasons.

And most of us don't need noise cancelling earphones when IEMs are so affordable these days.
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Talking about an increase in sound quality for lightning headphones is absurd when most people listen to MP3, which is a lossy format.

I think these days most people just "stream" their music. What quality are we taking about here? :eek:
 
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What do you mean noise canceling?
Since the iPhone's lightning port provides power as well as the digital audio, wired headphones can include active noise canceling without needing a heavy battery in the headphones themselves.

I don't know if that qualifies as "the reason" for Apple removing the 3.5mm jack. But if you name ONE reason, you probably didn't get it right either. And if you dismiss the various reasons one by one as not being good enough by itself, you don't necessarily make a compelling argument for leaving a port that takes up a lot more room in the shrinking iPhone than its single purpose deserves.

Most single-purpose ports have long since vanished from computers. I remember computers with dedicated ports for mice and keyboards, a big centronics port for a printer, and a different port for modems. If the computer supported more than one type of monitor you'd see different ports on the back for each. Some had separate ports for each of the Red, Green, and Blue video signals!
 
No, but they are going to remove the headphone jack and add USBc ports, which currently, few people in the world use. Meanwhile Apple customers won't have to replace 4 years of expensive Lightning cables and accessories.

I don't see other manafacturers following Apple , they will wait and see how this plays out. I guarantee you that more people will leave Apple over the headphone jack , than convert to Apple.
 
Everyone is talking about the headphone jack, camera bump and about the similar iPhone 6 design.
What I find interesting is : the display.
Perhaps they will release a 4.7 1920x1080p 4.7 true tone and a 2560x1440 5.5 inch true tone display.
I am hoping that is the reason for the bigger battery.
If that is the case , and the soc is around 30% faster, the camera is a lot better, etc. I will get one.
 
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just another rumor of photos and rumor / facts we already knew. I think the camera looks horrific.
I like it.
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Only apple fans can consider getting rid of the headphpne jack as a feature.

Fact - we cn already have lightning headphones, but almost noone makes them because:

1. No demand.
2. Companies dont want to pay royaly fees when they dont have to.

Apple simply want to create a way to make more money from the license fees, and sell more wireless beats.
I have a strong demand to get rid off that age old analog jack. So please, stop speaking for others than yourself.
 
People saying that the camera looks bad, keep your iPhone 6 then.

It looks amazing, bet it will take epic pictures.
 
What do you mean noise canceling?
The usual noise-cancelling headphones have a relatively big dongle embedded into the cable, housing the necessary electronics (and are comparably expensive). If Apple would use the former headphone jack space to house this electronics and offer noise-cancelling for every iPhone user without a price hike, I'd consider this a very nice feature and good substitute for the jack.

Their are phones thinner/as thin as the phone, that are waterproof oh and guess what? They have headphone jacks.
Are there any models that don't require fiddly rubber plugs to ensure waterproofness? Last time I checked that seemed to be the usual approach. If Apple could offer it without these plugs, I could well live with the removal of the jack.

Oh an they also have wireless charging, bigger batteries etc
So far it's not known whether the iPhone 7 will offer wireless charging. And bigger battery is not necessarily longer runtime. So I'll wait until the iPhone 7 is official and specs/features can be seriously compared, instead of jumping on rumors.

Well, many of us know that apple is a company that takes risks – lighting, 30pin, firewire and removal of many many industrial standards.
To be fair, though, more often than not the rest of the industry followed suit in abandoning former industrial standards. Apple just acted earlier in many cases.

I'm pretty sure the removal of the audio jack is partly due to monetary reasons.
For sure! Though I don't believe that's the whole story. Even Apple needs some reason to sell to their customer base when they make such a harsh cut.

And most of us don't need noise cancelling earphones when IEMs are so affordable these days.
Pardon me - what are IEMs? The noise-cancelling earphones I know usually come with a bulky electronics dongle embedded into the cable (except, perhaps, the huge around-ear models). If Apple would move the electronics into the former headphone jack space and even offer adjustment options (more or less noise cancelling, frequency adjustments to allow for spoken language coming through more or less etc.) - and all of that with any (Lightning-equipped) headphone of your personal choice, I'd feel that to be a nice replacement for the headphone jack.

Especially as I'd expect Apple to leverage the processing power of the iPhone CPU for such a (potential) option, which may lead to better results than with the weaker embedded CPU's in the conventional electronic dongles. After all, sound quality with current noise cancelling headphones still leaves room for improvement. And the noise cancelling while doing phone calls with the iPhone is already pretty impressive to my ears. So a foundation is already available.
 
The uproar would be quite a bit harder to understand if Apple was removing the headphone port but offering up a standard USB-C port in place of it. It's the transition from standard > proprietary instead of standard > new standard that is the main problem in my view.


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This is what people here are not seeing or are blinded by their own apple obsession.

The majority of the world will not see it as a good move.

God I hope this is some sort of PR plan on their behalf to drum up talk and discussion then come September they'll be like 'SURPRISE, we got you all good!'
 
It's also redundant. If one port can do the work of two then it only makes sense to give it the boot. It would be insane of any company to keep two ports in a device with limited space when the one can do the work of the other and better. The crying and over the top nonsense from some of you is mind boggling.
Yes and can't wait to not be able to use my headphones on my brand new 2016 macbook and iPhone 7... Just doesn't make sense.
 
I will agree with you if the sound quality stays the same.

If though, there is a huge improvement in the sound quality, then the new headphone port would be good.

Seen a few videos on lightning headphones and all mention the sound quality been better. I watched a video yesterday on headphones. There was a pair that allowed you to use either 3.5mm jack or lighting jack. They were quite large drivers in them which the iPhone struggled to drive them through its own built in DAC when used with 3.5mm jack. The reviewer commented that the volume had to be up pretty high to get a decent volume level and clarity.

When he switched to the Lightning connection he said the volume needed to be much lower and the clarify, separation in the instruments, vocals was much better. So I think it's safe to say that there will be an improvement in sound quality through lightning. But, I have said this before, but I think a lot of people won't either notice it nor be bothered about the better sound quality.
 
It costs a company a $4 per connector fee, For apple to do sweet FA, When they get rid of the Port, they will have a complete monopoly over wired headphones for Iphone.

And by monopoly Of course I mean every single god damn company will be forced to pay apple their slice of the pie.

And you might laugh at 4 dollars, however times that by the hundreds of millions of people that will buy the iphone and be forced to either buy a new pair of head phones or a 50 dollar adaptor (I joke).....
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USB-C Audio Is fantastic, because it's not proprietary. It is the next port for the next 10+ years.

Lightning is proprietary, it isnt even used on their own mac computers FFS

Their competitors haven't done jack yet (Excused the pun) on their flagship models.

Fans of apple won't jump ship because they love the every single thing apple releases.
USB 3 is already included in iPad Pro 12.9 as part of Lightning connection.
iPad 9.7 doesn't have it, but iPhone 7 potentially could...
Apple competitors always wait for Apple to introduce new tech before implementing it.
 
USB 3 is already included in iPad Pro 12.9 as part of Lightning connection.
iPad 9.7 doesn't have it, but iPhone 7 potentially could...
Apple competitors always wait for Apple to introduce new tech before implementing it.

the computer range says otherwise ... One does not lead by having thier hardware very out of date .

Apple does not invest tech, they use what is available to build some of the best devices and tech .
 
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I don't see other manafacturers following Apple , they will wait and see how this plays out. I guarantee you that more people will leave Apple over the headphone jack , than convert to Apple.
You mean like:
Motorola http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-z-doesnt-have-headphone-jack
Oppo http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/29/7091055/this-android-smartphone-is-too-thin-for-a-headphone-jack

And ig you look there are more, yes they are not following the leat of Apple, they are making Apple follow theirs!

Apple does not invest tech, they use what is available to build some of the best devices and tech .
Yeah liquid metal comes to mind.....sapphire glass ,machining tool... yes they don't invest ......

If you mean invent, the patent office would be happy to show you that Apple invent a lot of things ;)
 
Floppy drive was dropped - people moaned, cd-rom was dropped - people moaned, original 30 pin connector dropped - people moaned, USB was dropped (new MacBook) - people moaned, screen was too small - people moaned they wanted bigger, new screen sizes - people wanted small iPhone....

Point?

People moan but apple still make controversial decisions and still sell millions of iPhones. We get used it, and then reminisce when we see all the old stuff that apple ditched.

I've already moved to wireless earphones and would never go back but can see why some people are mad but we are a minority and despite a lot of people being unhappy, many more will be perfectly ok with it or just get used to it.

People are acting like apple are the first, there are already phones out with no 3.5mm jack and the new moto z doesn't have one. This seems to be something that was happening regardless of what Apple do.
 
You mean like:
Motorola http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-z-doesnt-have-headphone-jack
Oppo http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/29/7091055/this-android-smartphone-is-too-thin-for-a-headphone-jack

And ig you look there are more, yes they are not following the leat of Apple, they are making Apple follow theirs!


Yeah liquid metal comes to mind.....sapphire glass ,machining tool... yes they don't invest ......

If you mean invent, the patent office would be happy to show you that Apple invent a lot of things ;)

Apple invented liquid metal? They invented sapphire glass? they invented machine tooling? ...... Might want to check the definition of invent

Do you understand how the patent system works?
 
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Apple invented liquid metal? They invented sapphire glass? they invented machine tooling? ...... Might want to check the definition of invent

Do you understand how the patent system works?
Never claimed they invented those...but invested (you wrote INVEST!!!)

When you learn how to read give me a call ;)

Yeah liquid metal comes to mind.....sapphire glass ,machining tool... yes they don't invest ......
If you mean invent, the patent office would be happy to show you that Apple invent a lot of things ;)
 
Floppy drive was dropped - people moaned, cd-rom was dropped - people moaned, original 30 pin connector dropped - people moaned, USB was dropped (new MacBook) - people moaned, screen was too small - people moaned they wanted bigger, new screen sizes - people wanted small iPhone....

Point?

People moan but apple still make controversial decisions and still sell millions of iPhones. We get used it, and then reminisce when we see all the old stuff that apple ditched.

I've already moved to wireless earphones and would never go back but can see why some people are mad but we are a minority and despite a lot of people being unhappy, many more will be perfectly ok with it or just get used to it.

People are acting like apple are the first, there are already phones out with no 3.5mm jack and the new moto z doesn't have one. This seems to be something that was happening regardless of what Apple do.

Maybe we are moaning as wireless Audio is inferior. I don't mind moving to a superior offering. Part 2, headphone are analogue, even your wireless ones .

The replacement should be superior
 
Never claimed they invented those...but INVESTED like you said...

When you learn how to read give me a call ;)

It's actually "write" ;)

Autocorrect put in invest , where I meant invent . So I'll talk that as miscommunication , ignore my last reply
 
I will agree with you if the sound quality stays the same.

If though, there is a huge improvement in the sound quality, then the new headphone port would be good.

If there's really a sound quality improvement it will be almost undetectable with the bundled earbuds, for sure.
We'll need lightning-connected high quality headphones to really tell the difference.
I'm ok with the headphone jack gone if it means higher water resistance, even if sound quality remains "the same" with Apple's included lightning earbuds.
 
You mean like:
Motorola http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-z-doesnt-have-headphone-jack
Oppo http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/29/7091055/this-android-smartphone-is-too-thin-for-a-headphone-jack

And ig you look there are more, yes they are not following the leat of Apple, they are making Apple follow theirs!


Yeah liquid metal comes to mind.....sapphire glass ,machining tool... yes they don't invest ......

If you mean invent, the patent office would be happy to show you that Apple invent a lot of things ;)

No, they still follow.
Even if there are rumors that Apple is working on something, other brands will scramble to bring it first.
 
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