New Video Shows Off Alleged iPhone 7 Design With No Headphone Jack

[2010mini]

Only apple fans can consider getting rid of the headphpne jack as a feature.

Fact - we cn already have lightning headphones, but almost noone makes them because:

1. No demand.
2. Companies dont want to pay royaly fees when they dont have to.

Apple simply want to create a way to make more money from the license fees, and sell more wireless beats.

Yes. They are in the business of making money. Something wrong with a for profit company trying to make as much profit as possible? No one is being forced to buy iPhones.

 

[zorinlynx]

I have the 6s+ so I wouldn't upgrade to such a minor change and lose my headphone connector. I bought this phone purposely thinking it might be the last iPhone to have one. If I had the 5 I would save the money and upgrade to the current 6s+ even after this is released. I will get to keep my jack and get it at a discounted price. We could see a surge of 6s sales once this is released and the price drops.

Count me in; I have an iPhone 6; I may actually bump up to a 6S once it's confirmed that there's no headphone jack. I don't want to give that up yet, and a 6S will serve me well for at least another two years until wireless headphone solutions get better.

Or hell, just stay with the 6 which is still an amazing phone.

Bluetooth is still crap compared to good wired headphones, and I love my incredibly comfy Sennheiser cans too much.

 

[dampfnudel]

That camera bump is bigger than the anticipation for this phone, pass. #bringonthe2017iphone

Tru dat. The 2017 iPhone will be the one to wait for, no doubt.
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Can someone explain why Apple wouldn't wait until an all new design to remove the headphone jack?

I'm sure Apple has a good internal explanation which it may or may not share with us in September. If I had to guess:

1) The removal allowed a larger battery.
2) A more waterproof design.
3) "Gauging the market" before a major redesign/market feedback.
4) Apple just felt like it was time for the jack to go.

 

[tripmusic]

Everybody knows Apple is trying to squeeze as much profits as they can. Not saying that's bad. But I wish they would do something big like when the 4 was released.

I haven't been excited about new iPhones in a long time.

I think the bigger problem is the iOS and not necessarily the hardware. Adding more customizable features to the iOS would go a long way in making newer iPhones more attractive, even if the hardware hasn't progressed much

 

[rp2011]

I think the bigger problem is the iOS and not necessarily the hardware. Adding more customizable features to the iOS would go a long way in making newer iPhones more attractive, even if the hardware hasn't progressed much

iOS is what has saved Apple. After I left the Android crap I can never go back. I can deal with some of the design definciencies but I could never go back to the Android mess. Where you buy a device and the maker calls you a sucker and never updates your crap phone.

 

[redkamel]

not sure you can call it "stereo", if the speakers are 2-3cm apart

 

[Hieveryone]

If you still think Apple gives half a damn about those license fees, you really need to wake up. That money is almost nothing. I think it used to be about 10% of the purchase price (but it's confidential and may differ for big firms), but don't forget that you don't just give money to Apple for nothing - they do their own vigorous compliance testing. They have to; otherwise the "Made for iPhone" logo wouldn't be worth anything. That logo is a guarantee that Apple themselves have tested the product for compliance, safety, etc.

Let's put this in to a bit of perspective: MFI revenue is reported in the "Other" category, along with Apple's own first-party accessories, Beats, Apple TV and Watch sales. With all of those hotshots in there together, the entire unit pulled in $2.19Bn last quarter (up nearly 30% YoY) and was still only 4.38% of Apple's $50.6Bn quarter.

So what units does Apple care about? Services. While almost every other category was down, services revenue was up 20% and Tim Cook is bullish about their prospects there. Check out Page 3 of their financial guidance earlier in the year: "
Apple’s installed base drove over $31 billion in related purchases in FY15, up 23% Y/Y, and almost $9 billion in Q1’16, up 24% Y/Y". Services is already nearly 5x as all of those other products in the "Other" category.

So yeah, of course Apple try to position themselves to take advantage of the opportunities they create, but they're not killing the headphone jack and making their flagship product a worse music device (jeopardising another crucial business, Apple Music) just to hoard pennies from 3.5mm adapters.



I don't think this has anything to do with sound quality. I think Apple just wants to get rid of wires. It's 2016; the other day I swinging in a hammock in the park in Germany, video-calling my sister who is on holiday in New York. We're both on LTE, and the connection is just as good (if not better, if I'm being brutally honest) than my home WiFi. Maybe there was once a fear about the technology making the experience unenjoyable, but that just seems silly today. We have the technology.

Of course there will be hold-outs; there are still hold-outs who refuse to listen to CDs or digitally sampled music in general. They're not going to win over the vacuum-tube crowd; but for the 95% of us who casually enjoy music on our phones wired headphones are an anachronism. They get tangled, get caught on your belt/pocket and unplug themselves, and in general they're just a bit of an annoyance.

Maybe there's some good reason why it had to be this year, and this model, that finally did away with them - it doesn't really matter. It's long overdue that we move to something more convenient.

I don't think it'll take off. Who wants those extra waves hitting your head? Are they safe?

 

[rp2011]

I'm the biggest disser of the 6 series, if I like this 7 or whatever it's called then it can't be that bad. The little touches are a huge improvement over the abomination that is the 6 series. A camera centered on radius alone is a huge design improvement. The antenna lines. Better battery, improved camera.
I'm glad I skipped the 6 and 6s.

 

[T-R-S]

Have not used my headphone jack in years
I am skipping the 7 unless they have a unbreakable screen and a screen I read in the direct sunlight

 

[MikeyMike01]

I don't think it'll take off. Who wants those extra waves hitting your head? Are they safe?

Words cannot describe how uninformed this post is.

 

[Chinozs]

I cannot wait for it be unveiled this September. I sure hope that Apple is planning to release a new color, but that will be 0 % chance since up until now, no rumors and leaks are about the new color.

 

[ani4ani]

I have the 6S so that's why I'm not excited. If I had a 5s or below I would be I'm sure.
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I'm not too excited about the switch either. I like the current jack. But hey, it's apple. They kind of set the standard

But they don't? Reality is, whilst the iPhone represents a decent proportion of smartphones, it represents a much smaller proportion of mobile phones overall, but in reality is a minuscule proportion of the devices that can and do use headphones. The rest of the non-Apple world is not going to start adding a lightning connector to their devices simply because Apple has "set the standard"

 

[Nanotyrns]

What company was that Apple bought a couple of years ago? What do they make again? Hmmmm it's right on the tip of my tongue...

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It's probably not to increase space for battery, hardware, or anything else. It's all probably part of a very carefully planned out road map.

 

[ka-spot]

hm.. looks fatter, like it's not made by

 

[pratikindia]

The Samsung Galaxy 6/7 overpowers the iPhone design lately. The iPhone 6/6s/7 design looks boring.
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Everyone must realize by now that we're getting a bigger battery by losing the jack. Always a trade off. And other companies are already doing it. It's gonna happen. Personally I'll take whatever this is to get out of the Plus size phone!

Bigger battery? A joke of 14% increase. They need to put at least 2500 in iP7. The current ipHones won't last a day using wifi, 3G/4G, music and games.

 

[MH01]

I'm the biggest disser of the 6 series, if I like this 7 or whatever it's called then it can't be that bad. The little touches are a huge improvement over the abomination that is the 6 series. A camera centered on radius alone is a huge design improvement. The antenna lines. Better battery, improved camera.
I'm glad I skipped the 6 and 6s.

It's almost the same phone. If the 6 and 6s are abominations , how on earth is a 6SS suddenly great?
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The Samsung Galaxy 6/7 overpowers the iPhone design lately. The iPhone 6/6s/7 design looks boring.

I wish apple would make a glass phone again. I was suprised how nice the s7 edge was, and Samsung has learned by removing blotware

 

[Mac 128]

But they don't? Reality is, whilst the iPhone represents a decent proportion of smartphones, it represents a much smaller proportion of mobile phones overall, but in reality is a minuscule proportion of the devices that can and do use headphones. The rest of the non-Apple world is not going to start adding a lightning connector to their devices simply because Apple has "set the standard"

No, but they are going to remove the headphone jack and add USBc ports, which currently, few people in the world use. Meanwhile Apple customers won't have to replace 4 years of expensive Lightning cables and accessories.

 

[Deetyasoft]

apple 7 is very nice phone

 

[Robstevo]

If you still think Apple gives half a damn about those license fees, you really need to wake up. That money is almost nothing. I think it used to be about 10% of the purchase price (but it's confidential and may differ for big firms), but don't forget that you don't just give money to Apple for nothing - they do their own vigorous compliance testing. They have to; otherwise the "Made for iPhone" logo wouldn't be worth anything. That logo is a guarantee that Apple themselves have tested the product for compliance, safety, etc.

Let's put this in to a bit of perspective: MFI revenue is reported in the "Other" category, along with Apple's own first-party accessories, Beats, Apple TV and Watch sales. With all of those hotshots in there together, the entire unit pulled in $2.19Bn last quarter (up nearly 30% YoY) and was still only 4.38% of Apple's $50.6Bn quarter.

So what units does Apple care about? Services. While almost every other category was down, services revenue was up 20% and Tim Cook is bullish about their prospects there. Check out Page 3 of their financial guidance earlier in the year: "
Apple’s installed base drove over $31 billion in related purchases in FY15, up 23% Y/Y, and almost $9 billion in Q1’16, up 24% Y/Y". Services is already nearly 5x as all of those other products in the "Other" category.

So yeah, of course Apple try to position themselves to take advantage of the opportunities they create, but they're not killing the headphone jack and making their flagship product a worse music device (jeopardising another crucial business, Apple Music) just to hoard pennies from 3.5mm adapters.

It costs a company a $4 per connector fee, For apple to do sweet FA, When they get rid of the Port, they will have a complete monopoly over wired headphones for Iphone.

And by monopoly Of course I mean every single god damn company will be forced to pay apple their slice of the pie.

And you might laugh at 4 dollars, however times that by the hundreds of millions of people that will buy the iphone and be forced to either buy a new pair of head phones or a 50 dollar adaptor (I joke).....
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If ONLY Apple fans can consider getting rid of the headphone jack, then why is Intel pushing USBc audio right now? Why are other major smartphone manufacturers dropping the headphone jack BEFORE Apple has done it?

You yourself make an important argument for dropping the headphone jack -- there's no demand for Lightning because there's a cheap alternative that people are already using. As with all new technologies, dropping the old drives demand for the new, increases innovation, lowers the prices, and improves quality. That alone is a great reason to drop the headphone jack, except that isn't the driving motivation.

No company wants to pay royalties, yet no tech company can release a single product without paying for dozens of patents on technology they didn't invent, including Apple. And that's where the deals come in. Maybe Apple gives a manufacturer that owns certain patents in use in the iPhone a better deal for lower rates. It's business.

And your final argument simply makes no sense -- if there is no reason for Apple, nor it's competition to drop the headphone jack and still offer all the same features without compromise, then it makes no sense for Apple to do it anyway, in hopes they will sell more headphones and make more in license fees, than they will lose to customers jumping ship to Android, in order to keep the headphone jack.

Every argument that posits Apple is removing the headphone jack out of greed, simply isn't thinking this through.

There is a reason Apple, and all the other phone makers will be dropping the headphone jack soon, and it has nothing to do with proprietary license fees, or selling adapters. They've all run out of room, and they can't just keep making the phones taller and wider to create the room to add new features and improve old ones.

USB-C Audio Is fantastic, because it's not proprietary. It is the next port for the next 10+ years.

Lightning is proprietary, it isnt even used on their own mac computers FFS

Their competitors haven't done jack yet (Excused the pun) on their flagship models.

Fans of apple won't jump ship because they love the every single thing apple releases.

 

[eoblaed]

Gentlemen,there are holes in your theories. Literally.
Just gonna leave these here for you to see the holes... in your theories.
Current iPhone bottom:

Concept of rumored Stereo iPhone 7 bottom:

Even if the extra stereo holes didn't invalidate the water proofing/case integrity/dirt-debris theories, the big ass lighting port does.

The 3.5mm hole is extremely deep, much more so than the Lightning port, and much larger than any of the speaker holes. Also, the Lightning port could be made water resistant much easier than the 3.5mm jack due to the nature of the leads. The speaker holes are ridiculously shallow and lead to a speaker assembly that should be easier to water tighten than the 3.5mm port, too.

Personally, I'd much rather have the extra speaker than a port whose functionality can be taken over by other, already existent mechanisms.

 

[Boosh71]

Right, but at the end of the day, all phones are: 1) A thin rectangular device, 2) A screen occupying one side, 3) a couple buttons on either side.

So really ... how 'exciting' could any new design be? ...

I registered here just to say I agree! I've always thought that. How radically new can a rectangle be?

 

[Neodym]

Only apple fans can consider getting rid of the headphpne jack as a feature.
[...]
Apple simply want to create a way to make more money from the license fees, and sell more wireless beats.

How about waiting what Apple has to say and offer, before we judge 'em? Crazy proposal, I know, but perhaps they have some real, technical reason for this move and will offer a new feature instead (such as e.g. waterproofing, noise-cancelling etc.)? If there's no convincing explanation during introduction of the new iPhone generation, it's still early enough to complain ...

 

[HurryKayne]

no flush camera,no new Macs,boring

 

[Neodym]

Can someone explain why Apple wouldn't wait until an all new design to remove the headphone jack?

Because an all new design will most probably bring enough technical challenges on its own. Better not to play on too many fields. Same motivation behind the tick-tock cycles: Either you shrink your structures (= design change) or you introduce new features. Doing both at the same time is asking for trouble.

 

[recoil80]

Frankly, I would love to see the audience at September's announcement actually "BOOOOOO" when Tim announces the absence of a headphone jack. Just for once, instead of the OOOOHHHS and AAHHHHS and applause applause applause. Just once let Apple know that this is going to be a major screw-up for them for the average iPhone user. Knowing that the headphone jack was going to be absent was one of the reasons I went ahead and bought an SE. The way things are going at Apple, it will probably be the last iPhone I will buy from them.

Not going to happen.
But people usually vote with their wallet. Less iPhone sold in 2016/17 will sting more than a boooo during the keynote