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I think it looks pretty good, I don't get why the camera bump bothers so many people. As long as they include an adapter for the headphones I'll be happy (more thinking about the 2017 iPhone, I'm not planning on getting this year's model). Seems increasingly likely that this is the design for this year even though people continue to deny it.

Nope, but I'm sure they'll be glad to sell you one for $39.99
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Everybody knows Apple is trying to squeeze as much profits as they can. Not saying that's bad. But I wish they would do something big like when the 4 was released.

I haven't been excited about new iPhones in a long time.

iPhone 6 and 6 plus release wasnt big?
 
No headphone jack, no buy. Unless you move to USB C I am out. Anything else is 100% anti consumer.

Really? So it's not anti-consumer to force the half-a-billion iOS users worldwide to replace all of their expensive Lightning cables and accessories they've been acquiring for the last four years, and switch them to a brand new "standard" which exists almost nowhere at the moment, and for which the native accessories are virtually nonexistent and quite expensive?
 
Seriously, some of these people who obsess over the camera bump should get their heads checked.

For a bump? :apple:
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Really? So it's not anti-consumer to force the half-a-billion iOS users worldwide to replace all of their expensive Lightning cables and accessories they've been acquiring for the last four years, and switch them to a brand new "standard" which exists almost nowhere at the moment, and for which the native accessories are virtually nonexistent and quite expensive?

Agreed. USB-C next year. No need on this release. :apple:
 
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Really? So it's not anti-consumer to force the half-a-billion iOS users worldwide to replace all of their expensive Lightning cables and accessories they've been acquiring for the last four years, and switch them to a brand new "standard" which exists almost nowhere at the moment, and for which the native accessories are virtually nonexistent and quite expensive?
I feel like I'm in 2012.
 
IM banking on waterproofing similar to the s7 at this point as one of the bigger features. I live in FL, and I love taking my UE Boom 2 to the beach/pool and even in the shower for music. I just don't see Phil coming on stage announcing the removal of the headphone jack without showing substantial(aka waterproofing) benefits of removing said standard feature for decades. Yes I know there are water resistant phones with H-jacks now, maybe apple will take it to the next level who knows.
There's also the fact that there'll be one less hole on the phone ... one less way for dirt, water, foreign particles, etc, to get in.

Eliminating a significant breach of the integrity of the iPhone case, vastly improving its water resistance rating, would also address important consumer concerns.
Gentlemen,there are holes in your theories.:D:p:oops: Literally.
Just gonna leave these here for you to see the holes... in your theories.
Current iPhone bottom:
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Concept of rumored Stereo iPhone 7 bottom:
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Even if the extra stereo holes didn't invalidate the water proofing/case integrity/dirt-debris theories, the big ass lighting port does. ;)
 
Only apple fans can consider getting rid of the headphpne jack as a feature.

Fact - we cn already have lightning headphones, but almost noone makes them because:

1. No demand.
2. Companies dont want to pay royaly fees when they dont have to.

Apple simply want to create a way to make more money from the license fees, and sell more wireless beats.

If you still think Apple gives half a damn about those license fees, you really need to wake up. That money is almost nothing. I think it used to be about 10% of the purchase price (but it's confidential and may differ for big firms), but don't forget that you don't just give money to Apple for nothing - they do their own vigorous compliance testing. They have to; otherwise the "Made for iPhone" logo wouldn't be worth anything. That logo is a guarantee that Apple themselves have tested the product for compliance, safety, etc.

Let's put this in to a bit of perspective: MFI revenue is reported in the "Other" category, along with Apple's own first-party accessories, Beats, Apple TV and Watch sales. With all of those hotshots in there together, the entire unit pulled in $2.19Bn last quarter (up nearly 30% YoY) and was still only 4.38% of Apple's $50.6Bn quarter.

So what units does Apple care about? Services. While almost every other category was down, services revenue was up 20% and Tim Cook is bullish about their prospects there. Check out Page 3 of their financial guidance earlier in the year: "
Apple’s installed base drove over $31 billion in related purchases in FY15, up 23% Y/Y, and almost $9 billion in Q1’16, up 24% Y/Y". Services is already nearly 5x as all of those other products in the "Other" category.

So yeah, of course Apple try to position themselves to take advantage of the opportunities they create, but they're not killing the headphone jack and making their flagship product a worse music device (jeopardising another crucial business, Apple Music) just to hoard pennies from 3.5mm adapters.

I will agree with you if the sound quality stays the same.

If though, there is a huge improvement in the sound quality, then the new headphone port would be good.

I don't think this has anything to do with sound quality. I think Apple just wants to get rid of wires. It's 2016; the other day I swinging in a hammock in the park in Germany, video-calling my sister who is on holiday in New York. We're both on LTE, and the connection is just as good (if not better, if I'm being brutally honest) than my home WiFi. Maybe there was once a fear about the technology making the experience unenjoyable, but that just seems silly today. We have the technology.

Of course there will be hold-outs; there are still hold-outs who refuse to listen to CDs or digitally sampled music in general. They're not going to win over the vacuum-tube crowd; but for the 95% of us who casually enjoy music on our phones wired headphones are an anachronism. They get tangled, get caught on your belt/pocket and unplug themselves, and in general they're just a bit of an annoyance.

Maybe there's some good reason why it had to be this year, and this model, that finally did away with them - it doesn't really matter. It's long overdue that we move to something more convenient.
 
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People always claim to want substantial, technological change. But when the changes are internal, they're dismissed as unsubstantial. What they really mean is, they want a new exterior case.
I think this is true. As most people who put money down for the "new" iPhone want others to know it is the new iPhone. This requires some type of external difference to be noticed.
 
The alleged removal of the 3.5mm audio port is in no way comparable to that of the removable of the floppy or optical drives.

3.5mm ports exist in more than just PC's and laptops.

It's also redundant. If one port can do the work of two then it only makes sense to give it the boot. It would be insane of any company to keep two ports in a device with limited space when the one can do the work of the other and better. The crying and over the top nonsense from some of you is mind boggling.
 
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so for those who are angry by what apple are doing, are you just sticking with your iphone or looking at other options?
 
It's also redundant. If one port can do the work of two then it only makes sense to give it the boot. It would be insane of any company to keep two ports in a device with limited space when the one can do the work of the other and better. The crying and over the top nonsense from some of you is mind boggling.


"Some of you" ... nice. Always a pleasure to be labeled. Thank you for that.

For the record, I haven't stated a position as for nor against this. It seems that you have missed that particular nugget in my post.
 
At this stage, with this many supporting rumors there can be little doubt that this is happening.

I look forward to the announcement and the obligatory "Whoops & Cheers" from the crowd that always seem to follow. Maybe, just maybe, there will be an uncomfortable silence.

I may be in the minority, but I for one hope there is as I really do not want to have to start having to use an adaptor, nor have any intention of replacing my current headphones that work with a very convenient, up until now, almost universally adopted connector type.


bluetooth headphones are way better than using an adaptor -or- using a plug without an adaptor..

saying another way.
there's barely any difference between using an adaptor on your headphones vs not using one.. i mean, wouldn't the adaptor just stay with the headphones ? ..and when you want to use the headphones, you pick up the cord and plug it in just like you would if there wasn't an adaptor..

but.
if you were to use wireless headphones, there's actually a noticeable difference/advantage to be had/experienced.
 
I have the 6s+ so I wouldn't upgrade to such a minor change and lose my headphone connector. I bought this phone purposely thinking it might be the last iPhone to have one. If I had the 5 I would save the money and upgrade to the current 6s+ even after this is released. I will get to keep my jack and get it at a discounted price. We could see a surge of 6s sales once this is released and the price drops.
 
I've been using bluetooth stereo headphones for 5+ years (A2DP is nothing new). Great for the gym, handsfree calls are solid - it's no different than using Bluetooth for audio in my Audi (most cars with Bluetooth audio support bluetooth music playback).

Grab a good pair of bluetooth headsets and you won't have to worry about jacks and ports. There are plenty on the market, from inexpensive to high-end*.

* Have B&O H8's I use for travel. Last 12+ hours, excellent sound quality, gesture controls on the right aluminum ear piece, handsfree is excellent, sound dampening that can be turned on or off by swiping up or down, and a swappable battery in case you need it. Another bluetooth headset for the gym that's lasted since 2011, water resistant, handsfree, great bass, didn't cost more than $60.
 
Oh God, we've seen it all, enough already. It's not iPhone 2017. Same boring 3 generations old design, no audio jack, revolutionary dual mono speaker and OMG IT'S 0.1 MM THINNER!!! :eek:

Jony Ive is as pleased as Punch.
 
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How is it hideous? It cleaned up the design. The camera is finally centered on radius.

It's a huge improvement.
 
Hideous, poor design. Unacceptable, will be skipping.
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highly doubtful

its gone for good
 
The jokes on you all. This is the iPhone 6SE.
[doublepost=1468552040][/doublepost]I would love it if Apple gave us wireless headphones for the next release. That way they could save money on people breaking their wires.
 
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