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Newest Battlestar Fracking Awesome! *SPOILERS*
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AliensAreFuzzy said:
Ugh, yes.
I *finally* got to see the finale. Nice.
I was a little unhappy that they made Baltar fall so far, so quickly. But I'm willing to see.
zach said:
It's not a dream. There's no doubt in my mind that the writers decided to stick all the characters into an unimaginably bad situation.
I think on some level, they purposely wanted to upset a lot of folk by knocking nearly everybody down a peg or three. Harsh life in tents, no medicine, a derelict and neglected space fleet, Admiral Adama reduced to a lowly steward of a nearly abandoned Battlestar, flabby Apollo, Roslin nothing more than a school teacher, and the democratically elected president hiding in his own fantasy world.
unixfool said:I was almost positive that Adama was gonna open up a can-o-whipa$$ when Baltar said that...
But he didn't. And that's one of the things I love about the show: despite his rep for making grown men cry like babies, Adama loses a lot of battles. He was going to be the head of a museum before the Cylon attack. He pulled strings just to get off a freighter and back into the fleet. He instigated a coup and eventually came to regret it. He got shot, then became Admiral Cain's whipping post for a while.
Now he's the Admiral of a barely functional fleet that had to abandon everybody when the Cylons showed up. But he'll be back. I hope.
I read a couple of the posts before actually seeing the final episode, and I have to say BearRanger gave me a frickin' heart attack!! Its Vallari 8 not Tyrol 8 - I thought the Chief was a Cylon by your post!! Anyway to my take on the episode...
I was worried when I read there was going to be a "One Year Later" section as these have a tendency to suck... but this just made perfect sense, not only setting it up for next season, but doing away with a year which would have inevitably been all about the humdrum technicalities of settling on New Caprica. The only plot line with expanding upon is what has transpired between Starbuck and Apollo to make them so distant? And as an afterthought, what has happened to Helo's Sharon?
I completely agree with Clayj's take on the Cloud Six setting off the nuke... she had a plan....
So now the wait until October. Damn. One thing is for sure.... its going to be completely different to what we have become use too... its great to have a show that is happy to turn everything on its head!!
I was worried when I read there was going to be a "One Year Later" section as these have a tendency to suck... but this just made perfect sense, not only setting it up for next season, but doing away with a year which would have inevitably been all about the humdrum technicalities of settling on New Caprica. The only plot line with expanding upon is what has transpired between Starbuck and Apollo to make them so distant? And as an afterthought, what has happened to Helo's Sharon?
I completely agree with Clayj's take on the Cloud Six setting off the nuke... she had a plan....
So now the wait until October. Damn. One thing is for sure.... its going to be completely different to what we have become use too... its great to have a show that is happy to turn everything on its head!!
So can I ask for a spoiler?
I missed Epiphanies (I think, 213). From the synopsis, Baltar gave, to human Cylon sympathizers in that episode, a nuclear device. The Cylon (who is a Six, right?) he sleeps with in the finale detonates this device, signaling the location of New Caprica to the rest of the Cylons. Why does he initially give the sympathizers the weapon?
I missed Epiphanies (I think, 213). From the synopsis, Baltar gave, to human Cylon sympathizers in that episode, a nuclear device. The Cylon (who is a Six, right?) he sleeps with in the finale detonates this device, signaling the location of New Caprica to the rest of the Cylons. Why does he initially give the sympathizers the weapon?
I forget the exact circumstances, but I think it followed Roslin's telling him she didn't trust him, that he was weak and selfish, and basically crapping all over him.mkrishnan said:
clayj said:
Awww, thank you, Clay!
So he did it sort of out of spite, and not for any strategic reason?
Just watched the last episode (fell asleep on friday bought it on iTunes)
Best show ever far and away. I am in shock and can't wait for season 3 ^_^
Best show ever far and away. I am in shock and can't wait for season 3 ^_^
Yeah, it seemed kinda spiteful to me... almost a "well, if Roslin doesn't like me, Six still does" thing. When the Cylons told him how they found New Caprica, you could almost hear the gears turning in Baltar's head... "Oh, crap. I gave them the means to find us." Once again, Baltar has sold out humanity... even if it was inadvertantly both times.mkrishnan said:Awww, thank you, Clay!
eva01 said:
I think it'd be nice... make him less one-dimensional. Not that everything in the original BSG wasn't too melodramatic, but the original Baltar was way too over-simplified. I'd like to see this one become someone less trite and predictable.
I'm really curious to see where the theme of Cylon-human love goes, with he and Six, and Helo and Sharon and Helo. It seems to me that the Six that Baltar "sees" represents his own fears much more than her thoughts. Just as the Baltar she sees is different from the real Baltar. But we have to wait and see what Caprica Six and Vallari are really thinking.
Just finished watching it as well.
Wow! This is with out a doubt my very best favorite show. Loved the ending and was not at all concerned with any fears of having a "One year later" type of ending.
To bad that I will be without fast internet connection when S03 starts in Oct. I'll be out of school by then.
Wow! This is with out a doubt my very best favorite show. Loved the ending and was not at all concerned with any fears of having a "One year later" type of ending.
To bad that I will be without fast internet connection when S03 starts in Oct. I'll be out of school by then.
I just got done watching the season finale. Awesome. I love this show to death. Can't wait til it starts up again.
Against six Basestars and a skeleton crew? No, I don't think so.clayj said:
Also, Ron Moore has already stated that the one year time jump isn't a dream sequence; suck it up, it happened.
The first 3-4 episodes of the 3rd season will be about the resistance and humanity fighting the Cylons on New Caprica. Then they will return to their search for Earth. So no, the show isn't about to become "Battlestar Galactica: New Caprica" or "V: The Resistance."
My personal theory is that BSG and BSP merge their crews to form one fully-functional BS and then send the other BS (Pegasus) in to distract the Cylons or as a giant dummy bomb. BSG -- fully staffed and ready to kick ass -- flanks from the rear, cleans up the remaining Basestars (if any) and picks up the survivors. Well, my theory, at least.
Put me down as someone who loved the first hour and hated the last 30 minutes. I'm not liking the changes.
Was anyone else (very mildly) annoyed by the cylon-human baby? A year went by! Why were they still casting an infant for the role? 1-year olds do not look like that.
Don M. said:"V: The Resistance."
Oooooh, they should *so* remake that next.
Sexxxy lizard-woman aliens in Michael Jackson-esque outfits??? I looooove it! And they eat people, to boot!
I wasn't annoyed but I did note that the baby had very pronounced asian features. I don't think it's going to take much for Sharon (or anyone else) to put 2 and 2 together...miloblithe said:
Well, Remember, the human-cylon was born prematurely. So it will take longer for it to develop. It wouldn't be that young, but it wouldn't look as old as a normal 1 year old
AliensAreFuzzy said:
Maybe they are trying to avoid that whole "alien hybrid babies always mature super fast" cliche!
Yes, but the show is called Battlestar Galactica.Motley said:
Meaning, it's easy to have some sort of McGuffin like "we only have enough people to crew one Battlestar."
"Let's turn the other one into a bomb."
"Great idea. The Pegasus is the only one with engines large enough to make a useful bomb."
Insert any of a hundred ideas as to the McGuffin to destroy Pegasus.