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Newest Battlestar Fracking Awesome! *SPOILERS*

Well, the reason the Galactica survived the original Cylon assault on the Colonies was that it was an OLDER battlestar, and not all of its systems were networked... the networking was what made it possible for the Cylon virus to disable the other battlestars. So that's a reason right there to use the Pegasus in any sort of suicide attack. (BTW, did they ever explain how the Pegasus was able to avoid the Cylon virus?)

Frankly, considering how long the Pegasus stuck around in the original series (2 episodes?), I'm surprised it's made it this long in the new series. It's inevitable that it will be lost.
 
So I finally caught up last night with a marathon iTunes 6 episode download (wife's out of town).

I loved the last episode - it really shakes things up.

What happens when war hero 8 goes looking for Tyrol and finds he's knocked up Cassie?

clayj said:
(BTW, did they ever explain how the Pegasus was able to avoid the Cylon virus?)
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I seem to remember that the Pegasus in port for a refitting and their computers were down when the attack happened.
 
plinden said:
What happens when war hero 8 goes looking for Tyrol and finds he's knocked up Cassie?
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*Cally :)

but yeah... that's a really interesting question. after all, there are two sharon personalities, Helo's Sharon and Tyrol's Sharon...
 
I wonder how War Hero Number 6 will feel about Baltar now that he has turned cruel and evil and doesn't care for anyone now that he is president.

By the way, I wonder if Richard Hatch has behind the scenes control of the government.
 
plinden said:
I seem to remember that the Pegasus in port for a refitting and their computers were down when the attack happened.
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Correct. They were offline for a refit during the attack. They spun up the FTL drives and did a "blind" jump.

Adama: "Gutsy call."
 
joepunk said:
I wonder how War Hero Number 6 will feel about Baltar now that he has turned cruel and evil and doesn't care for anyone now that he is president.
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What'll happen is that War Heroes 6 and 8 will find they have too much of an idealised image of Gaius (what a screwup) and Tyrol (if Tyrol loves Sharon why's he shacked up with *Cally*?). This will mess with their heads and they'll lose influence, allowing the war faction to take control again. Meanwhile the confusion caused during the interim period will enable the Adamas and Starbuck etc to somehow spirit most if not all of the civilians off New Caprica ... not sure how that would happen, but rest assured however, it won't happen by a magical reconfiguring of the sensors, discovery of a new kind of energy, time travel, or intervention from a multidimensional being.
 
clayj said:
Frankly, considering how long the Pegasus stuck around in the original series (2 episodes?), I'm surprised it's made it this long in the new series. It's inevitable that it will be lost.
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Yes, Pegasus is something of a joke at this point. After going through 3 COs and essentially splitting the crew dynamic in half, the two Battlestars jumping away with only a skeleton crew seems like a perfect setup to merge into one fighting force on Galactica. I think Pegasus' days are numbered in S3 (or at least I hope so).

I understand that the show needs to evolve, but I dislike the S2 finale changes; I've no interest in wading through 4 episodes of Colonial resistance. For the better part of S2, the search for Earth was all but forgotten and we suffered through (IMO) weak episodes like "Scar" and "Black Market" that, frankly, we've seen before on any of a dozen other sci-fi series. (Space: Above and Beyond anyone?)

I'm not going to say that BSG has lost its way or jumped the shark...yet...but compared to S1, S2 was but a dim glimmer of what could of been. Let's hope that Ron Moore takes this break to heart and returns to what made BSG so intriguing in the beginning.
 
As much as I love the show, I think 13 quality episodes in one season is more than enough. I think in the stretch to 20 they definitely had some dogs in season 2. Hopefully they can pace themselves better next season and plan more consistently. Or I'd be happy if they dropped back down to 13 episodes and made them as good as possible.

Like a lot of people, I didn't think the end of season 2 felt right. But the show has to do certain things to keep from stagnating. Hopefully they know what they are doing, but it does seem like human/cylon dynamics are going to change significantly for season 3. It does seem plausible that Baltar could move towards a more original-series type roll, more explicitely engaged with cylons.
 
Don M. said:
Yes, Pegasus is something of a joke at this point. After going through 3 COs and essentially splitting the crew dynamic in half, the two Battlestars jumping away with only a skeleton crew seems like a perfect setup to merge into one fighting force on Galactica. I think Pegasus' days are numbered in S3 (or at least I hope so).

I understand that the show needs to evolve, but I dislike the S2 finale changes; I've no interest in wading through 4 episodes of Colonial resistance. For the better part of S2, the search for Earth was all but forgotten and we suffered through (IMO) weak episodes like "Scar" and "Black Market" that, frankly, we've seen before on any of a dozen other sci-fi series. (Space: Above and Beyond anyone?)

I'm not going to say that BSG has lost its way or jumped the shark...yet...but compared to S1, S2 was but a dim glimmer of what could of been. Let's hope that Ron Moore takes this break to heart and returns to what made BSG so intriguing in the beginning.
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The series hasn't lead me astray so far. I could care less about if Pegasus stays or gets destroyed. What I care about is the immersion factor. As long as they don't deviate from the formula that's made seasons 1 and 2 great, I'm OK and will continue to watch. And if they do deviate and its transparent enough to where I won't see it without having to pick apart the series, then I'll still be a fan.

IMO, sometimes fans kill a series because they wish for too much and the developers are so intent on giving the fans what they want, they lose focus and FSCK up the whole thing. I tend to watch my shows purely for the immersion factor, I didn't ask tons of 'why' or 'how' questions...this is probably why I enjoyed The Matrix trilogy so much more than others did.

The series makers have done a great job so far...I've no reason to start worrying about how things will turn out in season 3 yet.
 
***massive Spoilers For Season 2 End. Select Text To Read***

I like the way they've messed with the dynamic of the plot. The start of Season 3 has so many possibilities. I can't see the abandonment of the Pegasus happening. A lot of completely unarmed ships jumped away that are far better candidates for leaving behind than the best warship the humans have left.

I also wonder whether the Cylons at New Caprica are themselves refugees. Before the "lost" year we knew that there was a break in the Cylon ranks. Did this overspill into full on civil war, leading to "the war heroes" having to find the humans for their own survival? Are they being hunted by the Xena Cylon, and if so, will she be putting in an appearance? Maybe even leading to a deal between Xena and the Adamas for a combined strategy? Think about the who-trusts-who situations this brings up on both the planet and up in space. It's very BSG.
 
Finally

So I've just ordered all the DVDs including the old series. But I don't have cable. So hows the new season? I've only seen the few episodes NBC aired on those marathon nights a few summers ago. Can't believe I've waited this long to hop on the fan wagon.
 
New season starts next Friday (Oct 6th). :)

Have you seen the free iTunes BSG "The Story So Far" episode and the webisodes on scifi.com?
 
I try to avoid watching those ads on the Sci-Fi channel as I am already a fan of the show. But it gets hard when they air the ads every commercial break during the Stargate shows and Eureka.
 
aristobrat said:
New season starts next Friday (Oct 6th). :)

Have you seen the free iTunes BSG "The Story So Far" episode and the webisodes on scifi.com?
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Oops. Been seeing Battlestar pop up on mainstream magazine covers and the Google news page recently so I just assumed it started last friday or today. I think the last episode I saw was the the season 1 finally or the season 2 premiere on NBC. a year or 2 ago. And I don't think I've seen more than 5 episodes total. It's been a while. Just read an article with some spoilers for me. Like jumping ahead a whole year in the story?
I actually lied about ordering the DVDs they are sill in my shopping cart. I haven't hit the order button yet. I considering removing the original series. I only selected it because some of Clayj's posts referenced the original series.
 
joepunk said:
I try to avoid watching those ads on the Sci-Fi channel as I am already a fan of the show. But it gets hard when they air the ads every commercial break during the Stargate shows and Eureka.
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At the end of the 3-minute webisodes (where they're showing the resistant movement on the planet) I've seen the 30 second commercials for the new season, but I didn't know that they were showing the 3-minute webisodes on the channel too. Cool.

DISCOMUNICATION said:
And I don't think I've seen more than 5 episodes total.
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If it helps any, the new free iTunes episode you can download does a pretty good job of summarizing the series to date. The only thing I thought that went a little light on was the explanation of The Pegasus. I'd still buy seasons 1 and 2, though -- it's great entertainment.

I'm not a huge fan of the old series at all, except for the dog. :)
 
Mods, if it's kosher, please remove this post and revert back to this thread's 2006 status. I have started a new thread about this series.
 
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