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Next-Generation 15-Inch MacBook Pro Shows Up in Benchmarks
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There are plenty of external options. I have a LG bluray burner. Costs nothing and does the job. Apples superdrive is even lighter but only DVD of course.
Nope I checked activity monitor and it has nothing to do with CPU and memory.
Also scrolling is sometimes lags in Safari.
and? a pc w/ TB2 is still as susceptible to becoming outdated as any other. theres always something new...
Again, I agree. But Apple have never really made a 'pro' laptop when it comes to graphics hardware -- at least not one I remember. As memory serves, none of the GPUs with the G4, Core Duo, Core 2 Duo or Sandy/IvyBridge laptops were ever cutting-edge.
Did you do the upgrade or whatever it was that fixed this issue a while back for many people?
Yep it was fixed but still had a bit of a lag. I installed OS X Mavericks on it and it's running like a champ.
Agreed but when you drop $2700, you would expect that machine to be 'cutting-edge' in all factors.
$2700 buys me a high end almost everything else besides Apple. And I'm a big Apple fan but not when it comes to their 'Pro' series anymore.
You're right. I opted a white one because the scratch scares. Though I don't think this will get a lot of small scuffs compared to the iPhone. Most people have sleeves for these 2 thousand dollar plus investment.
I hope it still comes with a dedicated - and updated - graphics card. All 15" models, not just the high-end ones...
I see the MBP coming slightly earlier than the release of Mavericks. Probably 30-60 days prior. However, it will include a free upgrade.
I think Apple did something similar back in 2006 or 2007. Release new hardware slightly before a new OS.
I think Apple did something similar back in 2006 or 2007. Release new hardware slightly before a new OS.
I absolutely agree, it's a complete joke how crap the GPUs are in their 'Pro' laptops. Unfortunately, history would dictate that we'll never get a cutting-edge GPU in a MBP. And that's a real shame.
Please don't feel I'm justifying their GPUs by mentioning they've never put an excellent graphics card in their notebook computers. On the contrary, it was more of a disparaging remark towards Apple's Pro notebook line. The Apple-tax takes the complete piss, and nobody finds it more annoying than I.
It's just that with all the mention of new GPUs from nVidia, we'll just end up being disappointed when they do a tiny upgrade/no upgrade. They're never going to put a great graphics card in their Pro line, because they never have. No point getting our hopes up.
Out of purely selfish reasons, if apple does drop the dedicated GPU in the 15 rmbp, I'm gonna chuckle.
To be fair... the 13" MacBook Pro has never contained a dedicated GPU due to space/heat constraints.
I would agree with you if I didn't ran some tests regarding memory usage on the GPU.
I use Premiere Pro and After Effects pretty heavily with HD video and raytracing and I can tell you that I have never seen memory usage on the GPU fill up close to it's limits in about two years now. But the processing power easily reaches it's limits on a daily basis... So no, memory on the GPU is not as important as you might think, because this is not a 3D professional workstation nor a gaming machine both with thousands of high-res textures and polygons.
Processing power should be the focus if you want good performance for Adobe's applications.
I had a 2008 Unibody MBP, so I can understand your struggling very well. I also love that classic look macbook. Is it a black one or a white one?
I absolutely agree, it's a complete joke how crap the GPUs are in their 'Pro' laptops. Unfortunately, history would dictate that we'll never get a cutting-edge GPU in a MBP. And that's a real shame.
Please don't feel I'm justifying their GPUs by mentioning they've never put an excellent graphics card in their notebook computers. On the contrary, it was more of a disparaging remark towards Apple's Pro notebook line. The Apple-tax takes the complete piss, and nobody finds it more annoying than I.
It's just that with all the mention of new GPUs from nVidia, we'll just end up being disappointed when they do a tiny upgrade/no upgrade. They're never going to put a great graphics card in their Pro line, because they never have. No point getting our hopes up.
Oh I know you aren't justifying them, I'm just responding to your reply on why some people feel their pro machine GPUs are a joke. It's more the GB of memory vs the chipset.
2GB should be standard and should have been last year.
Lets hope that they saw the light and changed their view and put a better GPU in there.
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I would agree with you if I didn't ran some tests regarding memory usage on the GPU.
I use Premiere Pro and After Effects pretty heavily with HD video and raytracing and I can tell you that I have never seen memory usage on the GPU fill up close to it's limits in about two years now. But the processing power easily reaches it's limits on a daily basis... So no, memory on the GPU is not as important as you might think, because this is not a 3D professional workstation nor a gaming machine both with thousands of high-res textures and polygons.
Processing power should be the focus if you want good performance for Adobe's applications.
Have you done those tests using Video CoPilots add on's? Just curious because that's the stuff we use for a lot of our graphics/motion graphics.
High end GPUs and lot of dedicated video memory takes lot of energy and produce a lot of heat, that is why you don't see them in mac notebooks (always been too thin, and they always promoted the autonomy as a big selling point).
The Haswell top end GPU also has its own dedicated memory so knowing apple a GPUless macbook pro is possible.
The Haswell top end GPU also has its own dedicated memory so knowing apple a GPUless macbook pro is possible.
sorry dude, but apple wont be going backwards to optical drives & spinning HDs. the writing is long past on the wall... while an internal DVD player is more important than retina display to you, it probably isnt to most. thats what theyre banking on. but like other apple accessory solutions, if the optical is needed "there's an [external drive] for that". as for spinning HDs, the pro is geared toward folks who will pay for much better performing SSD.
making the device a sealed block of no moving parts is how apple will keep their production costs lower over the years as the sales price drops.
In fact Apple did the same thing last year with the rMBP. It was released in June. Mountain Lion was released in July. If you purchased the then new 15" rMBP before ML launched it was a free upgrade.
But external is the problem. External devices are fine for your desk, but are a PiTA when travelling. I'm imagining using the external drive attached to my Mac on my lap in the car or on a plane. That's just plain inconvenient.