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Hopefully the 4th Gen Apple TV is jailbreakable to install Kodi/XBMC. That's the main use of our Apple TV, but we still have just the 2nd gen because the 3rd gen was apparently never jailbroken.
 
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We could always wait and see if it's worth $149/$199 before complaining about it.
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Aww, what he heck! Let's start now anyway! /s

I've got an Apple TV (gen 2, I guess), a PC and PS3 for gaming, and I can stream from my iDevices; I don't have cable and have no interest at all subscribing to stand-alone cable channels. Personally, I can't think of anything the device would offer me that I want that would justify the price. As long as Apple doesn't brick my ATV2, I'm good. But if it does something cool for you, I'm happy for you and hope you have fun.
 
It works very well. Youtube, HBO, Netflix, runs everything I need.
Plus with Beamer it streams all movies files (including mkv) to TV from my Mac.
I agree I see no reason to upgrade with beamer and I can just stream everything my Iphone to and Ipad.Games I have a PS4.
 
This is nvidia shield pricing territory.

With that, I want an A9X with the Apple TV capable of running iOS games on the TV, complete with controller.
 
For the same reason the current tv has a chip with one core removed — the A8 offers plenty of performance already, and will likely be cheaper and lower-power than the A9.

Doesn't make much sense when they're mass producing A9's. Also why would lower power even be a factor when it's plugged in to a wall and not running off a small iPhone battery.

"Sure" an A8 is probably enough, but with the price hike of 50-100% more than current. And it being basically being a new product (not totally new but in the sense it's being totally redesigned and put in a whole different light on how it's used) one would expect the latest inside of it.

Especially if games (and apps) are a big new feature. An A9 would only make all of that so much better and room to grow instead of hardware that developers already have been pushing limits of the last year.
 
Nope. I've always wanted one but never bought one. Not everything about a product is enough to get some people to purchase and some products are plenty enough in features but people just haven't made the jump.
Probably the exception rather than the rule.

It's good that Apple will finally bring their A-game to their hobby product, they can't just sit there and lose market share.
 
Sounds interesting if it's more than just another streaming box. App Store alone won't save it but if the best qualities of TiVo, PS4, Xbox One and Roku are all neatly tied together than it will rule my media consumption. Then again I'm afraid it will be just another streaming box with few "exclusive" media packages tied to it. Personally, I have bought and tried way too many streaming boxes to get excitited about the subject. Hopefully Apple's box will be the one to rule them all.
 
Sorry Apple, I don't watch Channels, I watch programs.

If you think 40 channels of mostly crap is going to compete with Netflix etc, sorry.
If you think that price is going to compete with buying boxed sets of DVDs I can watch anytime as often as I like, sorry.
If you think this will stop people pirating the programs they want to watch but can't because of zoning etc, sorry.
 
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I'd like more details on these 25 channels for $40. I wonder if these channels are preset or if you can pick ANY channels that you want. I don't subscribe to any movie channels (Showtime, HBO, etc.) but they'd have my interest if it were any 25 channels and it included sports channels. Disney would have to play ball though since they own ESPN.
 
Sorry Apple, I don't watch Channels, I watch programs.

If you think 40 channels of mostly crap is going to compete with Netflix etc, sorry.
If you think that price is going to compete with buying boxed sets of DVDs I can watch anytime as often as I like, sorry.
If you think this will stop people pirating the programs they want to watch but can't because of zoning etc, sorry.


Since little detail was given on the channels, whether they are a preset package or ANY of your choosing, I'd take a chill pill on that one till further information comes out.

I don't think APT4 is meant to be a deterrent to piracy, I don't recall Apple ever stating this was a goal of there's. Especially since none of the content that's pirated (movies, tv shows, etc) is created or produced by Apple.
 
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Cord cutters are weird. Or you just like to wait while the stream Is buffering. I will stick to my tried and true cable TV that plays full HD with no buffering, no artifacts, and keeps my bandwidth free for my kids to attempt to watch YouTube videos.
 
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Yeah, says the guy with a Macbook Pro, iPhone 6 and iPad Air 2 with 128GB in his sig. :rolleyes:

I'm being quick to judge because YOU'RE being quick to judge. Take your own advice. You don't even know what the forthcoming TV is gonna be like and the price is already too high for you? So what was your point then? Really nothing right? Of course. And before you say you can't afford a $200 Apple product I would recommend modifying your signature. :p

Heard of saving before? Saving up for something you need or want? Well thats a bloated question for you I guess considering your response.

Took me 3 months to save up for the Mac, putting some money to the side for each month to eventually afford it. I started pre-saving before the iPhone 6 was even out, considering I was still on the 4s. I had a few leftovers in my savings account to buy a productive tablet for work.

Don't try to be a smart-mouth about something you have no clue about, like someones economic status. And how am I quick to judge again? I said "That price tho" because thats not something I can't afford now if thats the final price. And if you call that judging, then you forget how you judged me when I just judged the price which related to my personal economic status. ;)

Facts are one thing, predictions are something else :p
 
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too much anymore that $99 is too much that seems to be the benchmark and there are too many other alternatives for it to be that high and we haven't even seen roku's next box. I have an Xbox One and once it gets HBO Now will have everything I really need
Anything under $100 would be surprising. Roku and Amazon Fire are pretty basic boxes. The remotes are extremely basic, with limited button choices. That's not to criticize Roku, I own one and I think they're pretty decent devices. The OS, however, is ugly, and it's difficult to maneuver between menus and among apps. I would love a box that made discovery easier. I hope the next Apple TV has that option.

Once you drop a touchscreen remote, you're easily talking an extra $50. And you have to remember, you're talking Apple touchscreen, not some cheap competitor knock-off. The display itself will probably be whatever they consider retina-resolution. Even if the display is only a couple inches, that calls for extra money and the battery to run it.

Then you're also talking a microphone and speaker to run Siri. You also have to add flash storage to accommodate the apps. All of this adds up in price. To be honest, I would expect the device to be $200, and people will be happy to buy it. If it comes out at $150, it'll be a steal.
 
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Was expecting something a bit different from Apple. $40/mo for limited streaming TV is about the same as cable or satellite - plus you are using more of your data for a service that currently does not require you to. Looking forward to hearing what Apple is actually going to propose on the 9th.
 
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You would need to examine your cable bill and figure out how much of your bill goes to internet, and how much of it goes towards the TV package.

Yes, I was referencing only the television part of my bill; it wouldn't have been a very fair statement if I'd not separated Internet and/or phone service.


If you're already paying ~$40 for the TV portion of your cable bill... then no... you wouldn't want to switch to Apple's offerings.?
If Apple is trying to be a game changer, then they need to offer more for the same price or less for less money; I think they need to do the latter in today's economy. Besides, once they get people hooked and offer more services in the future they'll have more options (and more things for people to spend money on).


But it's a catch-22... the cable company sometimes charges more for internet-only. Or the deal is too good to pass up and it makes more sense to have internet plus some channels.
Obviously if they're offering a better deal or special we need to consider it. Quite often I get Comcast for $50 a month with internet, SD TV and HBO (instead of $64 for just the same speed internet), but I don't watch the SD TV or the HBO (generally) so to me it's just $50 for Internet; but sometimes they offer internet for just $30 too....

The dollar amount that I consider when figuring what it costs me for Cable TV, is what package has all the channels I need (not some channels). The exception would be if one channel (or two channels) with one show requires me to get a $40 more a month package, then I'd just buy that single show on iTunes.


I think it would be cool to pay $40 a month and have access to every TV episode available on iTunes.

You'd get current stuff... plus back-catalog stuff. Like a Netflix on sterioids.
Maybe Apple believes that channels are a little outdated and that people simply want to watch shows instead.

Would unlimited access to every TV episode on iTunes be worth $40 a month?

$40 is a bit. It might be different if I was a family of four or something but it's just me. Also, I don't think everything I watch is on iTunes (but maybe it is).

Assuming, they have all the shows, how about $20 a month for shows from this season?
Or $20 for every 30 hours of viewing? (I'd probably only have overages one or two months a year).

Personally, I've got a TiVo with an over the air 4-tuner DVR (lifetime, no monthly fee) and it records most of my local stuff (but occasionally things drop out and I don't get a show) so having a service that got everything would be nice and would probably have a few more channels too. But a service that only covers 90% of my needs and I still need to hop through hoops is an issue, I can do what I want via a variety of hoops already.

The big thing for many people (not me) is sports channels, cutting the cord and not having antenna reception means they have a problem getting their sports fix. Not being a sports fan means it's a bit easier for me to do cord cutting.

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You have no idea how much this is going to exceed a Roku. I expect full voice navigation of all my TV services, with Siri's cloud database keeping track of all shows and how they can be accessed from all my services. I expect all I will have to do is tell Siri what show I want to watch, and it will determine if I can find the show via On Demand, via streaming subscriptions or via live TV, then navigate there.
Pretty close to what Roku can do now. Not sure if it can tell if the program is on live TV.
 
I use my Apple TV 2 on a daily basis, and it works flawlessly, so I'm wondering how you define "useless."

Well, I also have an Apple TV 2 alongside my Nexus Player, and the Apple TV fell out of active use once its YouTube stopped working. Apple updated only the current model to use the new API. So at least it's lacking one source of media that used to be there.
 
Well done Apple, I have finally reached a point where I can look at the price for a rumored Apple product and go "That's too cheap."

I blame the Apple Watch.
 
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So if the old ATV generation will continue on at a lower entry level price point, that may indicate how they'll name the new device.

Probably just "Apple TV 2," no?
 
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