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Next-Generation Apple TV Said to Launch in October for $149 or $199

peterdevries said:
What I said about the current Apple TV is not absurd if you factor in the following. If Apple will launch a new Apple TV and keep the current one around, it will do so announcing the new one as the next revolution in TV consumption and casual gaming (even if it is not). The current Apple TV will ride on that marketing wave and at a possibly lower price point will see an increase in sales.

I don't see this as an impossible scenario.
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I kinda do. The current Apple TV has been available for a long time. It's not going to surge based on a new model that leapfrogs it. If anything, I think it would likely decline or stay level. Now - if they make it so that this "base" model somehow works in tandem with the higher priced version (so that instead of needing to buy two higher priced ones, you can buy one high and one low) - then I think you might be on to something.

Nothing is stopping those people that want an Apple TV currently from getting one. Which is why their competitors have outpaced them. Advertising/Marketing isn't going to save that.
 
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Soccertess said:
I love tactile buttons, so controllers don't appeal to me. Have you seen Oculus controllers? May not be aesthetically pleasing but I think they are on the right track. Not sure if those have buttons for each finger, but it's the perfect combo for motion and non motion gaming.
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I agree with the tactile feed back, it is a must have, for gaming. If it would look like the wii remote with screen, I just wish the remote buttons would be customisable, if they are only touch based
 
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peterdevries said:
Not really. The next step would be to also enable you to buy "cheaper TV", such as reality TV etc (not that I would want to, but there are many that would). In the end it is inevitable that more content becomes available like that and that will drive down the price.

2,99 is to own the episode, and I'm not interested in that. I don't need to see a particular episode of a show 200 times as I do with music. So, a much lower price per stream would be much more reasonable.
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But that's not going to happen. Right now, Multiple services are doing very well with the ~1.99 per episode and also selling full seasons. It's not likely they could or would want to charge less for streaming an episode. They know most people are only going to watch it once anyway. Further - the cost model also needs to take into consideration for broadcast/streaming rights and everyone that needs to get paid. Why do you think that Apple has had this much trouble so far trying to create a viable bundle.
 
Erastopic said:
Premature? Open your eyes mate, not everyone has 200 bucks to spend on what you want. I don't disagree with Apple's price choice if it's as feature rich as the rumors, but I said "that price tho" because thats not something I can afford at the time being.

Don't be so quick to judge next time, it will be good for ya ;)
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Yeah, says the guy with a Macbook Pro, iPhone 6 and iPad Air 2 with 128GB in his sig. :rolleyes:

I'm being quick to judge because YOU'RE being quick to judge. Take your own advice. You don't even know what the forthcoming TV is gonna be like and the price is already too high for you? So what was your point then? Really nothing right? Of course. And before you say you can't afford a $200 Apple product I would recommend modifying your signature. :p
 
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bookwormsy said:
"Almost everyone"? To my knowledge, only AT&T Uverse and Comcast have caps. A few others may, but I know that most others do not.
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AT&T published caps of 150GB and 250GB for HSI and U-Verse a few years ago, but I don't think it is enforced. I have never received a notice or extra charge.
 
trife said:
Almost everyone has data caps these days, whether they know it or not. Unless your cap is super low, I can't see why streaming wouldn't work.
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I agree with you although most people in the US do not currently have a data cap. FiOS doesn't have a cap. The giant Comcast suspended their 225 GB data cap in 2011 for almost all locations, although recently Comcast started enforcing the cap in a few more locations.

The few areas that Comcast current enforcing their data cap.
 
Andres Cantu said:
That's a good point, but with the recent market share findings about the Apple TV being in 4th place (even with the price drop), I'm guessing everyone that wants one already has one.
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Nope. I've always wanted one but never bought one. Not everything about a product is enough to get some people to purchase and some products are plenty enough in features but people just haven't made the jump.
 
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Apple won't have "cracked" it until I can:
- watch any free OTA (over-the-air) program from any country in the world
Ex.: Brazilian Globo TV from the state I am interested in (and not "International Globo" program which by trying to make it suitable for everybody they made too limited for everyone)
Ex.: French TV channels (and not TV5 world which doesn't show any soccer game)
I am willing to pay a reasonable amount for the broadcast... Not the outrageous Comcast price of basic + premium + digital + HD + box rental + international + individual channel premium (i.e. $100/month for a curated Globo or TV5 channel that doesn't have half of I want!!)
- pay-per-view any LIVE sport event or show at a reasonable price, either through packages for the whole season or per game/show
- replays for half the price of the above games/shows
 
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garylapointe said:
Give me cable channels (like TBS) for $5 a piece for the, $4 for the next and so on.
Maybe a bit more for ESPN and more for the HBOs.

If I wanted to pay $40 a month, why wouldn't I just keep cable?
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You would need to examine your cable bill and figure out how much of your bill goes to internet, and how much of it goes towards the TV package.

But it's a catch-22... the cable company sometimes charges more for internet-only. Or the deal is too good to pass up and it makes more sense to have internet plus some channels.

If you're already paying ~$40 for the TV portion of your cable bill... then no... you wouldn't want to switch to Apple's offerings.

garylapointe said:
If it's got the regular networks (ABC, CBS, etc) then maybe some benefits.

If it's got on demand streaming for all shows, so basically it's an unlimited DVR then there are some advantages.

SyFy, ABC Family, and maybe a few like TBS, TNT, CNN and Weather channel is probably all I'd be interested in. Even at the pricing scheme I made up above, I'm not sure I'd get that.

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I think it would be cool to pay $40 a month and have access to every TV episode available on iTunes.

You'd get current stuff... plus back-catalog stuff.

Like a Netflix on sterioids.

Maybe Apple believes that channels are a little outdated and that people simply want to watch shows instead.

Would unlimited access to every TV episode on iTunes be worth $40 a month?
 
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Apple's fourth-generation Apple TV will be released in October with a starting price of $149 or $199, according to 9to5Mac.
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Siri on an AppleTV ain't worth that much. The interface on AppleTV ain't worth that much. New apps written for AppleTV that allow developers to explore new ways to interact with their media might be worth that much along with 4k content as it becomes available. Otherwise expect sales of the $69 model to continue.
 
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Apple's fourth-generation Apple TV will be released in October with a starting price of $149 or $199, according to 9to5Mac. The report claims that Apple will also continue selling the third-generation Apple TV for $69 as an entry-level device, although the set-top box is not expected to have support for an App Store or Siri.

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The report adds that Apple's much-rumored streaming TV service will be available "as soon as next year" through a software update for both the third-generation and fourth-generation Apple TV. The web-based TV service is expected to deliver a lightweight package of about 25 channels for around $40 per month.

The new Apple TV is rumored to feature a dual-core A8 processor, an App Store with a native SDK for developers, Siri voice control, HomeKit integration, a new user interface and a redesigned remote control with motion sensors, a touchpad on the top, physical buttons on the bottom and a microphone.

Apple is expected to announce the new Apple TV at its September 9th media event.

Article Link: Next-Generation Apple TV Said to Launch in October for $149 or $199
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Let me refresh your memory for IPOD Mini that you gave to your children because they ask with cute face and point to their friends have it. If I remember I paid for 3 kids(1 middle school, 2 high school) times $250 each. Those IPOD lasted for somewhere year and half. That's it.

This AppleTV which is set-top box doing number of things and typically lasts for several years and we use it lot. So, cost up-to $299 is acceptable/reasonable when consider longer life span and usage.
 
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The $149-$199 doesn't bother me (especially if it has a native Plex client), but $40 a month for 25 channels is a non-starter. Once you've cut the cord, there's no going back. Good luck with that, Apple!
 
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Well, I'll wait and see what the device can actually do and what it costs in Europe (I'm guessing 199€ and 249€) before making any purchase decisions. If my prices go as I guessed, it will have to rather amazing to replace my 99€ Nexus Player that does Netflix, YouTube, Plex, and also AirPlay via AirTight.
 
Why would they still use the A8 chip in it when it's coming out after the iPhones that have A9? Why wouldn't they just put their latest chip in it vs the one year old chip? (Especially if the new A9 is quad core as some rumours suggest.)
 
lagwagon said:
Why would they still use the A8 chip in it when it's coming out after the iPhones that have A9? Why wouldn't they just put their latest chip in it vs the one year old chip? (Especially if the new A9 is quad core as some rumours suggest.)
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For the same reason the current tv has a chip with one core removed — the A8 offers plenty of performance already, and will likely be cheaper and lower-power than the A9.
 
drew0020 said:
Who is going to waste their money on this? No need for this and I do not want another voice activated system in the house.

I love my DirecTV with all of my local sports channels, HBO, Showtime, free Sunday ticket and a bill less than $60 per month including taxes.
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Give it a year.
 
Interesting.

Thats putting it in the territory of the Nvidia Shield AndroidTV box. Hopefully it turns out to be comparable in terms of hardware features. I had been holding off on a shield till after Apple finally showed theirs off.
 
Soccertess said:
The old Apple TV 3 should go for 20 dollars or less. It's pretty useless these days.

I'm excited for this new Apple tv, after all these years it really needs an update. I've now switched to Chromecast and thinking of buying my family a Roku. Best thing about the old Apple TV is the beamer app for OSx!
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I'm not gonna attempt to convert into dollars but I imagine they'll still sell the current gen for a reasonable price. My guess would be the new Apple TV will start at £129 and go up to £179 (which would allow for $149 and $199 in the US). The current gen is sold for £59 here in the UK, so I imagine they'd continue selling it at around £39 - that would allow it to directly compete with the likes of Amazon and Google and their respective TV 'dongles' as this new Apple TV is likely to be far ahead of anything currently on the market.
 
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