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So if the old ATV generation will continue on at a lower entry level price point, that may indicate how they'll name the new device.

Probably just "Apple TV 2," no?
Oh, and I'll say that they call the streaming service "Apple Video" akin to the music service.
 
Cord cutters are weird. Or you just like to wait while the stream Is buffering. I will stick to my tried and true cable TV that plays full HD with no buffering, no artifacts, and keeps my bandwidth free for my kids to attempt to watch YouTube videos.
Maybe some. But I live in NYC and via antenna I get several channels in HDTV and better quality than I had via cable.
 
The old Apple TV 3 should go for 20 dollars or less. It's pretty useless these days.

I'm excited for this new Apple tv, after all these years it really needs an update. I've now switched to Chromecast and thinking of buying my family a Roku. Best thing about the old Apple TV is the beamer app for OSx!

Useless for you maybe, but there's a lot of us who actually like it. Don't make stupid generalizations.
 
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For those who think the Apple TV 3rd gen should be discontinued , it's not just home users watching Netflix that use them. We have 40+ apple TVs deployed at work and they are used just for AirPlay . So I hope they do stay around as they are great for that .
 
Not really. The next step would be to also enable you to buy "cheaper TV", such as reality TV etc (not that I would want to, but there are many that would). In the end it is inevitable that more content becomes available like that and that will drive down the price.

2,99 is to own the episode, and I'm not interested in that. I don't need to see a particular episode of a show 200 times as I do with music. So, a much lower price per stream would be much more reasonable.

The problem is the producers. The head of CBS has said that the current pricing of TV shows in iTunes is too low. Wouldn't shock me if CBS is one of the major holdups on the streaming service.
 
"The web-based TV service is expected to deliver a lightweight package of about 25 channels for around $40 per month..."

Is this considered competitive? I pay $33/mo to Comcast for a Basic Extended service, which has more content and features that what Apple will offer!
 
A native Plex client is the thing I'm most excited about. However, since the new ATV will be based on iOS I'm worried that it'll only support the limited set of file formats that iOS supports. This would render it kind of useless for me, since the Samsung Plex app direct plays all my files. Arghhh... :(
 
Cord cutters are weird. Or you just like to wait while the stream Is buffering. I will stick to my tried and true cable TV that plays full HD with no buffering, no artifacts, and keeps my bandwidth free for my kids to attempt to watch YouTube videos.
Streams don't really stop to "buffer" anymore - that's kinda 2011 stuff. I never really have to worry about bandwidth.

And you know what else I never have to do? Let some tv channel decide what episode of what show I'm watching or when I'm going to watch it.
 
My point is, $50 to a $100, isn't such a drastic hike in price. I guess to some people on here that is.
When I bought my first :apple:TV, that was quite a price (I make enough so that dropping $100 isn't that big of a hit, but there was something about it that I didn't like), and now that I have one, and plenty (for me) of movies on iTunes, I'm looking forward to the new one, and I'll talk myself into the most expensive one.

I know me, and I know that I'll do exactly that. :O
 
"The web-based TV service is expected to deliver a lightweight package of about 25 channels for around $40 per month..."

Is this considered competitive? I pay $33/mo to Comcast for a Basic Extended service, which has more content and features that what Apple will offer!
But you don't even know what features Apple will offer. :p
 
I use my Apple TV 2 on a daily basis, and it works flawlessly, so I'm wondering how you define "useless."

I would love an Apple TV2, I would jail break it so fast!

Useless as the interface is antiquated and other products such as Chromecast are much more useful in the living room (depending on your use and configuration of course). Lots of people thing a 3 year old system needs an upgrade to compete with Roku and Chromecast.


Only thing that made Apple TV useful for me in the past was Beamer App, which isn't even an authorized product.
 
The old Apple TV 3 should go for 20 dollars or less. It's pretty useless these days.

I'm excited for this new Apple tv, after all these years it really needs an update. I've now switched to Chromecast and thinking of buying my family a Roku. Best thing about the old Apple TV is the beamer app for OSx!

I use my Apple TV almost every day. How is it useless? It's worth it just to stream your itunes library much less having the most stable of streaming services of any device.
 
A native Plex client is the thing I'm most excited about. However, since the new ATV will be based on iOS I'm worried that it'll only support the limited set of file formats that iOS supports. This would render it kind of useless for me, since the Samsung Plex app direct plays all my files. Arghhh... :(

The beauty of Plex is that all the necessary transcoding is performed by the server. Any ATV/iOS app (like their iPad and iPhone apps already) would simply be a client. So your files may not be served as fast as direct play files would, but they'll be served.
 
If you don't mind, might I ask what sort of antenna you are using? I would like to try this method. Thanks.
Mohu leaf. I'm also in direct line of sight with the Empire State Building. Love my tablo which I use as a DVR and can stream to pretty much any device and remotely as well
 
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I hope the AppStore allows apps that can play files off networked drives, e.g. my MacBook. This would be an alternative to the much longed for (by some) iTunes Media Server. With VLC and similar on the iPhone, and AirPlay, it's not like Apple would be purposely opening the floodgates to pirated content on the Apple TV. The fact is we have lots of movies, in all different formats, on many different devices. Let us play what we want.

Also hearing strange rumours of an Apple Music TV karaoke feature. Might be interesting if it's connected to an online Game Centre leaderboard. A bit like Singstar (which made a fortune for Sony on the Playstation). Also, bye bye MTV. Apple Music subscriptions include music videos. I can see this being very popular with teens, plus no pre-roll ads like YouTube.
 
I really don't think they will discontinue or drop support for the current Apple TV. Not enough people will buy the new one and a lot of people have the current model.

They've almost messed up the current model so much that they will need another year or so to build trust in the product again.
 
The beauty of Plex is that all the necessary transcoding is performed by the server. Any ATV/iOS app (like their iPad and iPhone apps already) would simply be a client.
I know, but I like the elegance of simply storing and downloading content on a NAS, and not having a full-blown computer running at the same time (not to mention the extra costs involved). Furthermore, if I can't even direct play my content to the TV, I might as well just permanently transcode my content to an iOS-compatible format. That's something I'll consider, depending on how things pan out with the ATV.
 
Useless for you maybe, but there's a lot of us who actually like it. Don't make stupid generalizations.

True, I have a super nintendo that some people love. I also have a rotary phone, vintage record player, and powerbook that some find super useful.

Personally, it's time for an update as many of us have started jumping to other devices due to lack of innovation. So while useless might not be the perfect term, in captures many people's sentiments that this hobby product is due for a refresh.
 
Stuttering during playback is 100% dependent upon your connection. There's nothing ATV can do with a connection that cannot maintain minimal sustained data rates.

Except the very thing requested in the post? Download in advance.
 
Almost everyone has data caps these days, whether they know it or not. Unless your cap is super low, I can't see why streaming wouldn't work.

I'm glad I live in Austin with Google fiber as a competitor. Time Warner Cable wouldn't dare add caps. Google would scoop all those subscribers up.
 
For the same reason the current tv has a chip with one core removed — the A8 offers plenty of performance already, and will likely be cheaper and lower-power than the A9.

The A8 will be less efficient. The A8 is on a 20nm non-FinFET process. The A9 is on a 14nm FinFET process. The GPGPU is more energy efficient than the prior generation.

To get acceptable gaming performance you have to raise the frequency up a lot and that will increase power consumption considerably. If they want this gaming platform to be taken seriously they will be addressing all developers with a preview release and most likely target a Spring 2016 launch for the gaming part, assuming they are using iOS 9.x on the system. It makes sense they would do so, as this is not the Apple Watch.
 
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