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Many more people say that of glossy displays.

Maybe but not I. I like the glossy display. I dont use bright lights behind me and I find the display to be ever so slightly clearer / sharper / brighter. Comparing it, the matte screen looks somewhat muffled.
 
so i could argue that has to do with the users not knowing how to use their computer as opposed to the software. What does being a network engineer have anything to do with applications and layers 5-7? How many of those networks feature Mac exclusive boxes or servers? Also, i don't think i have to remind you of the amount of window's users versus mac users. I think the point they were making is, that an iMac is laptop hardware packaged as a desktop and is not a professional computer. I doubt we would see any studio's doing any heavy lifting using an iMac.

The iMac makes a great office workstation though. For just about everything other than intensive graphical work, it's great. For that one area, you'll need a Mac Pro.

Laptop parts and desktop parts aren't that different. You're acting like they're two different species. They're actually mostly the same thing. There's little if any disadvantage to having a computer made of laptop parts - in fact, I've been using a laptop in clamshell mode as my computer for years and love it.
 
I'm 90% sure one of the touted "new features" will be an LED-backlit display. It's been introduced down the whole laptop line and now the Cinema display, it was only a matter of time until they introduced it into the consumer iMac line. They'll probably continue with the glossy displays; I'm not certain but I don't think there's ever been a BTO choice on what kind of screen you have for the iMacs.

The other feature is anyone's guess, though I am doubting Blu-Ray. It hasn't been much of a selling point on desktop PCs outside of specialized home theater machines.
 
Macs are "dominating" the Premium end of the market. Those who can afford to go mac, ARE going Mac.

Could you back this up?

It takes "extremely little effort" to keep a Windows box clean. provided you know what you're doing. It takes ZERO effort to keep OS X "clean." In fact, there is nothing to "keep clean." Unix cleans itself via automatic chron scripts that run regularly. No slowdowns. Nothing to maintain by the user. No tweaking needed. No settings to mess with. And what settings there are, are very straightforward.

You mustn't have used Windows, because it doesn't need to be cleaned out as much as you think. Windows also doesn't need a computer specialist to keep it running. Disk defrag is automatic, like in OS X.

Those "cron" scripts only work if the computer is on. IIRC, they run at 3 AM local time.

OS X is meant to be completely maintenance-free. Which is what all consumer tech of this kind should be (and apparently aspires to be, but not always successfully.)

From my experience, OS X is nowhere near maintenance-free. If I unplug a display when a computer is using it, then plug it back in, the resolution gets screwed up. iTunes forgets where the library is, so I have to move and redo things manually. Safari crashes unexpectedly, at least once a week.
 
I have MS and Linux certs. I have to know layers 1-7 although 1-4 more so. I am saying that in my personal experience OS X is easierto use and maintain than MS.

Agreed. Of course it's easier to use and maintain.

You don't even need any experience or qualifications to know this. It's common knowledge, and it's commonly accepted. We can start right off the bat with: no 3rd party crapware to install in order to keep your OS from falling over. No scanning anything. No running any kind of cleaning tool etc. No settings to tweak. Surf the net and do whatever you like. You just use it and move on.
 
The Ultimate iMac

A 4.0GHz Quad-core iMac with a 30" OLED display, dual-solid state drives, Blu-Ray player/burner, better speakers with an integrated subwoofer, capacity for 32GB of RAM, full-size *backlit* keyboard in the box, and, get this - a detachable HD camera module that can shoot HD video and 8MP photos, that reconnects to the iMac and allows for use as a standard webcam. Pre-installed Snow Leopard and iLife '10.
 
I hate to break it to you, but Ive been building PCs probably longer than some Mac Forums regulars have been on the planet.

OS X is far, far better at multi tasking and is more stable and responsive than Windows, regardless of the hardware being 'out of date'. It's aesthetically pleasing and it is almost completely quiet. At the end of the day, I would much rather have such a machine, that does its job exceedingly well, than have a machine that is ugly, noisy, and simply faster at certain specific tasks such as how many frames per second you get in the latest FPS game.

Popular Mechanics did an article last summer in which an iMac and a comparable PC were put through their paces. The iMac mopped the floor with the PC at things like switching between tasks, launching multiple applications, etc.

But go on running Windows, I'm sure that Steve Ballmer applauds you for it.

Did you not read my sig? I run OS X on my machine.

As for aesthetics, my rig is, I think rather good looking and quite functional with it's hotswap HDD bays. It's quiet, you'd never know it's running due to the 120MM fans at low RPM. It's honestly just as quiet as the C2D iMac I use at work (even with four HDDs in it.). Plus it affords me other interesting things like being able to use two matched displays. I guess what I'm saying, it doesn't take a company to build a dead silent and visually appealing powerhouse.

There's no improvements they could make to the iMac that would make me consider one.. Especially with it's price tag.
 
Could you back this up?

Apple dominates the $1000+ notebook sector, in sales done through physical stores such as Best Buy, etc. They have around 91% market share in this area.

PC desktops aren't doing well (across the board.) Consumers seem to be going for power and portability. Notebooks. And really, who can blame them.

Record Mac sales this past quarter is another factor, and this isn't the first out of 19 quarters that they've posted record Mac sales. Most of Apple's revenue in general is generated from Mac sales to begin with. Apple's really the only one that runs a profitable computer business these days. Most of it occurs at the Premium end of the retail pyramid - the top.

Chances are, if you're the average consumer that fits Apple's demographic, which means you've got the cash for it, you'll be seriously considering a Mac. Baldmer has already admitted as much recently, publicly. And MS didn't come out looking the better for it, either. Stagnation and late, derivative product rollouts have been the order of the day in Redmond since XP's release. But hey, licensing your back-asswards imitation of OS X to everyone and their dog pays off. The question is for how long.
 
Apple dominates the $1000+ notebook sector, in sales done through physical stores such as Best Buy, etc. They have around 91% market share in this area.

PC desktops aren't doing well (across the board.) Consumers seem to be going for power and portability. Notebooks. And really, who can blame them.

Record Mac sales this past quarter is another factor, and this isn't the first out of 19 quarters that they've posted record Mac sales. Most of Apple's revenue in general is generated from Mac sales to begin with. Apple's really the only one that runs a profitable computer business these days. Most of it occurs at the Premium end of the retail pyramid - the top.

Chances are, if you're the average consumer that fits Apple's demographic, which means you've got the cash for it, you'll be seriously considering a Mac. Baldmer has already admitted as much recently, publicly. And MS didn't come out looking the better for it, either. Stagnation and late, derivative product rollouts have been the order of the day in Redmond since XP's release. But hey, licensing your back-asswards imitation of OS X to everyone and their dog pays off. The question is for how long.

I meant with graphs and pictures and reliable sources.
 
it's just me or Mac Users don't care no more about Apple new products as in the past? You never read jokes or cynical comments about the next generation Apple ideas back in 1990... In this Mac Users generation I'm pretty sure I don't fit. Like me a lot of real Mac users (old school ones) will feel sad when Steve's gone. it will be the end as the Apple as we know it... and the new PC in disguise with an Apple shape mask. I know there has to be a couple of guys with the future in their hands like the two steves... what will be next we don't know.

saying that I think the iMac will be the same, just slimmer and more powerful. all wireless no wired keyboard and mouse and unibody enclosure. that will be it for now.
 
I would really like to see Blu-ray but I don't think that it's coming. We would have seen some kind of evidence of it in Snow Leopard, which is going to be out in less than two months and so far there is no mention of Blu-ray whatsoever.

I would say that we have seen more hints in Snow Leopard than many naysayers of a favorable 'more cores' option.

My guess is that Apple MAY present the upcoming iMacs as complimenting one of SL's claim to fame of making better use of more cores. More cores is the future and iMacs wont be left behind.

As for the cooling issue....when were you never pleasantly surprised by Apples innovations of making things possible?;)
 
Like others have said - eSATA has to be one feature.

Easiest to implement and cheapest to do.

Very easy - eSATA is just a connector, and Apples already have SATA controllers on the motherboard. You just need to run the SATA lines to an eSATA jack.


1920X1200? I know its over the 1080 option, but wouldnt the picture be strched out a bit?

No, it's not stretched, it's letter-boxed. 60 rows of pixels on top and bottom are black.


but I did find this over on google

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When they come up with a split or ergonomic keyboard, maybe. Until then, I'll stay with the Microsoft Natural keyboards. My wrists can definitely feel the difference.


That AND, they REALLY REALLY REALLY NEED TO MAKE THE IMAC WIDESCREEN!!!

Which widescreen - 16x10, 16x9, 1.85, 2.35, ... ???

Most movies are "wider" than 16x9, so you'll still have letter-boxing.

Please, don't ask for "short-screen" - I like 1050 to 1200 pixels vertical. Cutting pixels off the top and bottom to make it "wider" is a big loss.

Please give me the 1080p compatible 1920x1200 screen - don't cut off 120 pixels to make it 1920x1080. That is backwards - especially since all my BDs are letter-boxed at 1080p.

If you see an computer screen that's 16x9 - it's not something better, it just means that the manufacturer is taking advantage of the economies of scale and putting an HDTV LCD into the computer. Count the pixels, you'll probably have fewer than the 16x10 models.
 
I mean REAL widescreen 16:9 aspect ratio which, NO, they are NOT! ;)

P.S. The iPhone also is not 16:9 and it should be. How can it be the king of media devices when it is not even true widescreen?

The purpose of the 16:10 that Apple uses is so that you can edit widescreen video at full resolution and still have room for toolbars at the top and bottom. The iPhone would be too tall with a 16:9 screen.
 
I don't really care about Blu-Ray...does ANYONE care?? I really doubt we'll be seeing this capability in the new iMacs.

But a redesign of the iMac frame sounds cool. :D
 
It's been all over the tech news for nearly a month now. There have been countless posts about this right here on MR, AI, and elsewhere. Everyone covered it.

You can start right here, and Google the rest:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/07/apple-nabs-91-of-premium-computer-market-in-june.ars

I've never seen anything like that before.

I did hear, however, those Laptop Hunter ads put a huge dent in Apple's sales. It was so bad, Apple actually asked MS to stop running the ads. If you didn't know, there are more than ever.
 
iMac = dock for tablet

How about the new iMac acting as a dock for the new tablet which will slide in and out of it like a disc? That's "compelling" to me!
 
just give me a imac with a DVI or displayport input so I can connect other computers to it.

Of course, a matte display would be nice too :)
 
I've never seen anything like that before.

I did hear, however, those Laptop Hunter ads put a huge dent in Apple's sales. It was so bad, Apple actually asked MS to stop running the ads. If you didn't know, there are more than ever.

The Laptop Hunter ads were complete failures. They actually seemed to help Apple. MS would be well-advised to stop running them and bin them along with those Seinfeld and "I'm a PC" abortions. MS doesn't know how to market, and has lost complete control of their image, unless it wants to be seen as the Wal Mart of the tech world.

Those ads did notihng for MS. They just eroded their image and confirmed them as the bargain-bin brand of the industry. Their recent lousy quarter (more to follow) is certainly no indication of any of their recent marketing doing anything for them.

Apple is experiencing record Mac sales in this recession, and just this past quarter, to boot, in the wake of all that Laptop Hunter idiocy.
 
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