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So making flash memory is going to be cheaper than pressing a disc?

Eventually, yes. Our kids will look at a disc and wonder wtf to do with it, much like confronting a teenager today with a record or 8 track.
 
Eventually, yes. Our kids will look at a disc and wonder wtf to do with it, much like confronting a teenager today with a record or 8 track.
I'm extremely skeptical of the flash memory mob lately in terms of production and ease of such vs. pressing an optical disc.
 
Go for the Athlon II X3/4 instead.

For $80, I can get a 3 GHz, 65 W Athlon II X2 (can't find a X3). For $99, I can get a 2.6 GHz, 95 W Phenom II X3. If I could find an Athlon X3, I'd get it.

EDIT: Read that the Athlon II X3 is launching this month. I also saw some benchmarks saying a slightly higher-frequency Athlon X2 will outperform a Phenom II X2. I think the extra core and seemingly inconsequential-for-a-HTPC L3 cache is worth the extra $20. Do you think the 400 MHz makes up for the lost core in the Athlon?

Preaching to the choir about Deneb harvesting. I'd be extremely impressed if you had anything new for me.

A Phenom II X4 Black was overclocked to just over 6.7 GHz.

The slower clocked processor is the quad core. Take a Penryn-6M die and slap two on the same chip. The one with the higher clock speed isn't the faster one.

Didn't see that. It makes sense now.
 
I'm extremely skeptical of the flash memory mob lately in terms of production and ease of such vs. pressing an optical disc.
Why?

Moores law clearly shows that within the next 5 years capacity will make optical disks completely irrelevant
 
For $80, I can get a 3 GHz, 65 W Athlon II X2 (can't find a X3). For $99, I can get a 2.6 GHz, 95 W Phenom II X3. If I could find an Athlon X3, I'd get it.
The other Athlon II lines aren't out yet...


A Phenom II X4 Black was overclocked to just over 6.7 GHz.
Nothing new to me.

Why?

Moores law clearly shows that within the next 5 years capacity will make optical disks completely irrelevant
It's tough to swallow given the ease in the creation of the static optical media vs. circuits.
 
The current design already looks like the 24" LED Display...in fact that display was probably modeled after the current iMac.
 
Why?

Moores law clearly shows that within the next 5 years capacity will make optical disks completely irrelevant

Everyone feels they're qualified to be a futurist...

"Nuclear powered vacuum cleaners will probably be a reality within 10 years." —Alex Lewyt, president of the Lewyt Vacuum Cleaner Company, quoted in the New York Times, June 10, 1955

"Before man reaches the moon, your mail will be delivered within hours from New York to Australia by guided missiles. We stand on the threshold of rocket mail." —Arthur Summerfield, U.S. Postmaster General under Eisenhower, 1959

"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out." -- Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962
 
Did you not read my sig? I run OS X on my machine.

As for aesthetics, my rig is, I think rather good looking and quite functional with it's hotswap HDD bays. It's quiet, you'd never know it's running due to the 120MM fans at low RPM. It's honestly just as quiet as the C2D iMac I use at work (even with four HDDs in it.). Plus it affords me other interesting things like being able to use two matched displays. I guess what I'm saying, it doesn't take a company to build a dead silent and visually appealing powerhouse.

There's no improvements they could make to the iMac that would make me consider one.. Especially with it's price tag.

if you have no interest in the iMac then why are u in an iMac update thread?
 
Here's what I want from the next-generation iMac:

1) Similar case design as the current iMac, but with vertical height and tilt adjustments.

2) 20" or 24" LED-backlit LCD panels in 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 resolutions.

3) The latest Intel CPU's in dual-core and quad-core form based on improvements of the Core i7 design.

4) The latest nVidia graphics chipsets with full HDCP support and up to 1 GB of video RAM.

5) Up to 16 GB of system RAM.

6) Up to 2 TB hard drive with Serial ATA-II interface.

7) Improved keyboard and mouse pointers, with native support in MacOS X 10.6.x for the latest Logitech and Microsoft keyboards and mouse pointers (for example, when you plug in the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Desktop 7000 wireless keyboard/mouse set, MacOS X 10.6.x automatically recognizes them and starts up a program to allow custom configuration of both the keyboard and mouse pointer).

8) Standard DVD burner Superdrive optical drive, with either DVD burner drive with Blu-ray playback ability or a full BD-RE burner drive as an option.

9) Six USB 2.0 ports, one FireWire-400 port and two FireWire 800 ports, and one standard and one optional Gigabit Ethernet RJ-45 port.

10) Full set of audio connectors, including SPDIF Toslink connection and HDMI audio connection for passing unprocessed Dolby True HD and DTS Master Audio streams from a Blu-ray disc to external decoder.

11) Improved microphone and iSight camera over current model.
Starting at only $4999!
 
I'm extremely skeptical of the flash memory mob lately in terms of production and ease of such vs. pressing an optical disc.

Hmm, Pressing an organic compound onto a pice of plastic OR refining Silicon, Copper, Black Dye. Then manufacturing the small components.

YOU wish!!!

I just dont see that happening until Bio-Computing is so advanced we can grow computer parts on GM trees... within a matter of seconds.
 
Quad (or more) i7 and BDR

My bet is on quad core i7 along with a BluRay burner.
Optical is going to be around for the foreseeable future; certainly long enough to allow inclusion into the Apple line. BluRay is becoming more popular and is the least expensive & most accessible way to backup these mondo sized drives these days (unless you go to another HDD).
 
Everyone feels they're qualified to be a futurist...

"Nuclear powered vacuum cleaners will probably be a reality within 10 years." —Alex Lewyt, president of the Lewyt Vacuum Cleaner Company, quoted in the New York Times, June 10, 1955

"Before man reaches the moon, your mail will be delivered within hours from New York to Australia by guided missiles. We stand on the threshold of rocket mail." —Arthur Summerfield, U.S. Postmaster General under Eisenhower, 1959

"We don't like their sound, and guitar music way out." -- Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962

Moore's Law, while certainly not future-proof, is still fairly safe for a good few generations and has plenty of historical data to support extrapolation.

The stuff you quote isn't really extrapolation; it's just out of the blue prediction in two cases and opinion in one.
 
Why?

Moores law clearly shows that within the next 5 years capacity will make optical disks completely irrelevant

Moores law has stopped applying ages ago.

We've moved form Megahertz days... remember?

Our better understanding of Quantum Physics could let us make Uber disks. With a layer that responds to each spectrum of light. Low energy (Red Lazer) at the bottom. High energy (Violet Lazer) At the top. Then use existing methods of Multi layering to make even more layering.

So thats 7 layers already. 8 layering is possible for each type of colour...

Therfore we could make a disc thats 56 Layers at about 10-20GB each. Thats
1.2TB for something that costs about 5-10 cents to make.

Lets see Flash do that, with Copper and Silicon at its current rates.
 
My bet is on quad core i7 along with a BluRay burner.
Optical is going to be around for the foreseeable future; certainly long enough to allow inclusion into the Apple line. BluRay is becoming more popular and is the least expensive & most accessible way to backup these mondo sized rives these days (unless you go to another HDD).

Blu-Ray burner: Possible.

Core i7: Not until the Nehalem architecture goes mobile. That is happening later this year, but with frequency topping out at 2 GHz and people still believing the megahertz myth, Apple won't implement Nehalem in anything but the Mac Pro until Arrandale, which hits the streets around Q1 2010. But still, with Arrandale only hitting 2.66 GHz, it may not happen because people may still have the MHz myth in their head, although a maximum TDP of 35 W will entice tree huggers.
 
about new imac features

I dont know about you guys, but a feature I have long dreamed of is a 30" iMac screen, and YES I agree that a stand alone graphics card, blueray, usb3 and quadcore processors would be awesome. Could the next processor be i7?

Isnt it time for the refresh already? I'll bet we will have to wait until the release of osxSL. Steve Jobs will probably release all this cool stuff with his first keynote since back on the job. What do you think? :):apple:
 
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