Moore's law stops when there is no possible way to make the transistors on a microprocessor smaller, i.e. they hit the atomic level.
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Next-Generation iMac to Offer Two 'Compelling' New Features?
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Moore's law stops when there is no possible way to make the transistors on a microprocessor smaller, i.e. they hit the atomic level.
Completely irrelevant? Not quite. While I'm sure it will have less importance, I do not see it as being "completely irrelevant".
For many in our society, there is an easy to optical media that cannot be replaced easily and will not for the forceable future. Personally I just see it as an intermediate for Mac The Ripper and Hand-break to convert it into a form more useful for my needs. However, I recognize that having a external hard drive connector Voyager Q and a 1 TB mirrored ReadyNAS networked drive is just not the typical case for most people.
30 years...perhaps. Not 5.
Right, Shake. Moore's law says nothing about MHz, it's about transistor count.
Moore's law is giving us (and least those buying PCs) quad core processors for the price of single cores a couple of years ago.
MHz has hit a wall, but the transistor count keeps going up, and we're seeing more cores and bigger caches because of that.
I didn't mean it like that,
As in. Computing has changed since Moore's Law was made.
Speed has changed to cores. Parallel computing is emerging and Quantum Computing is taking its baby steps. We can compile and process data differently. We have piles and piles of floating a bit power. We have newer ways of interfacing and sending data. OSes are dramatically different then back then. Al of that and more affects power, performance, efficiency, speed, capacity and more.
Transistor Count is becoming irrelevant.
Transistors dont affect computing directly as much as they used too.
These two statements are diametrically opposed....
Increased transistor count is directly responsible for more cores.
First you and shake take my conversation with NT1440 out of context. Then my quote out of context. Then you micro-quote.
Me and NT1440 were discussing about capacity and performance. Moore's Law is not the governing factor for that. Thats why it is becoming irrelevant, IN THAT CONTEXT. There is more than just transistors to power and capacity.
And the transistor count per core varies depending how the CPU is made.
In Your context it applies but my conversation was elsewhere before.
should I wait
I'm about to get an iMac for my office. I like to get it no later then mid-September. Although, the sooner the better it is for me. It is to replace an awful Dell that is incredibly slow running Window XP.
I'm using it for basic task such as web browsing and Microsoft Office.
should I wait?
I want to have one when I'm back from vacation i.e. early September. Would this rumor update be ready by then? I understand that all of us are uncertain as to the date of the next update, nevertheless your thoughts would be helpful.
Cinch
I'm about to get an iMac for my office. I like to get it no later then mid-September. Although, the sooner the better it is for me. It is to replace an awful Dell that is incredibly slow running Window XP.
I'm using it for basic task such as web browsing and Microsoft Office.
should I wait?
I want to have one when I'm back from vacation i.e. early September. Would this rumor update be ready by then? I understand that all of us are uncertain as to the date of the next update, nevertheless your thoughts would be helpful.
Cinch
These new features of the iMac had better include matte, anti-glare screens. I hope Apple listens to the already hundreds of people who have made petitions at the petition site http://macmatte.wordpress.com - already close to 500 comments asking Apple to bring back matte.
We all know apple hates full size keyboards
+1
not to menton it looks like 1999
I don't really care about Blu-Ray...does ANYONE care?? I really doubt we'll be seeing this capability in the new iMacs.
But a redesign of the iMac frame sounds cool.
I do. many others do to. Remember, you are not the only one who uses a mac.
The ads were MADE before the change, but a few aired after. Microsoft qas not weak for changing the ads. You just want to see them get sued,.
real mature...
good point
... because Popular Mechanics is an excellent source for computer related information.
Just got my new iMac a few months ago and works absolutely perfect. Makes me wonder though what the updates will be. New blue-ray and screen isn't a big update for me. I watch all my blu-ray on a 46" HDTV and my screen is perfect the way it is. If they do an exterier redesign, makes me wonder what they would do. I'm guessing they would match the MBP line with the aluminum still or would it be more like the iPhone? Hmmmm.
I keep trying to preach this to the "long live downloads!" faithful, but they don't get it. The average HD movie sold on iTunes takes up about 4 GB of disk space at 720p. The movies are maybe $5 cheaper than a Blu-ray Disc version, which has 1080p uncompressed with a bitchin' load of quality audio formats (Dolby Digital is NOT high-tech anymore), a lot of good/bad extra features, and the durability of a disc.
If you like downloading movies, fine. But don't try to push that discs are a dead format. The iTunes Music Store just became the top music seller LAST YEAR. I buy almost all music online, but I'm not stupid enough to suggest that CDs are dying. We occasionally do a music swap at work in which we put 15 or so songs on a CD and rotate them around every week. Most of us have an iPod of some sort, but we can't do anything like that.
Digital downloads and optical media are probably going to co-exist for a LONG while. If Apple were to add BD to new Macs, I'd be backing up my music library and photo library on a BD pretty darn quickly.
Hmmm ... two "compelling new features" ... I guess the "new" part rules out putting back the floppy disk drive and Mac OS 9.
Pls, Pls no BluRay. What for ? You can get bigger USB Keys than a BluRay can take. With this one you can do all you need. Watching Movies ? Yes from usb stick, harddisc, SSD and through the network but no longer from these silly discs.
BluRay is necessary in a Mac as much as a floppy disc is necessary in it nowadays. Lets move on and leave this crap behind us.
BluRay is necessary in a Mac as much as a floppy disc is necessary in it nowadays. Lets move on and leave this crap behind us.
I have a large DVD collection, along with 8 or so blu-ray movies. 2 of those blu-ray movies came with a digital copy - "Taken" and "The day the earth stood still", both I upload to my computer via iTunes.
I think blu-ray as well as digital copy will work together.
though I do believe we wont see a new physical format once blu-ray ends in 10-15 years
I would imagine they would be adding a large touchpad to the keyboard. Now that they have support for Chinese characters and gestures, its silly not to have it replace the mouse. Steve Jobs' dream of the buttonless mouse will be complete.
Either that, or a removable touchscreen panel..
Either that, or a removable touchscreen panel..
blu-ray burner? 50GB or storage is quite a bit.
You go and show me a USB flash drive, blank CD or blank DVD that can hold 50GBs.
I've only seen USB flash drives go up to 16GB. Most blank CDs only hold up to 700MB. DVDs around 2.50 GB
Online storage sites are out of the picture, we are only talking about physical things you can hold in your hand.
and who the hell watchs movies from a USB flash drive? I don't know anyone who watches them from a "harddisc", SSD? what network?
You can get USB keys larger than 200GB?
BluRay is necessary. Companies are not going to sell the Data on USB sticks now are they. Im not spending 8+ hours for something to download when I can buy it within 10 seconds.
What about when games finally surpass the 4DVD limit then. Im sure Youre going to buy Crysis 3 on 6 DVDs or Metal Gear Solid 6 on 10DVDs? Or selling large Flash Storage which will raise the price far too much. Waiting for steam is pain enough as it is.
as I said around 3 times already in this thread. I think many are forgetting the burner. Most are thinking blu-ray drives just read the movie, there are blu-ray burners out there.
I don't get the whole digital copy crap. itunes doesn't have full 1080p downloads, only 720.
plus, we all know if apple adds this, the people complaining will be the first in line to get one
I don't get the whole digital copy crap. itunes doesn't have full 1080p downloads, only 720.
plus, we all know if apple adds this, the people complaining will be the first in line to get one
The key word, methinks, is "compelling". Did Apple invent (or improve in some wild fashion) BlueRay? No... that ship sailed without them. Therefore, I don't think BlueRay is one of the "compelling" features of a new iMac.
That being said, our next home computer will be an iMac. We have two Macs in the house now, my MBP and the white MacBook, which the missus inherited. Now, I've been in tech and computers large and small since 1979, and she's put up with my geekiness with stoic patience. When she took possession of the white MacBook, she did something I've never seen her do before. She geeked. She dug into things, seeing what could be done, marveling at "how cool is this!" - for hours. I'm amazed, and overjoyed.
While shopping at BestBuy, she laid eyes on the 24" iMac, and actually lusted. She declaimed, "this is our next home computer! I want it!". (The thought which crossed my mind was, damn you, Best Buy, for not having Mac Pros on display...).
The iMac, as it is right now, is of adequate hardware design. Add in the elegance of OSX, and you have a love machine. Any "compelling" updates Apple can add/improve to the iMac line is icing on the cake. I have all ideas that these "compelling" updates will be unexpected, and very cool.
Anyone want to buy a recent HP laptop with XP Media Center? She won't even boot the silly thing any more, said she's "done with that, don't want to see it again, EVER...."
That being said, our next home computer will be an iMac. We have two Macs in the house now, my MBP and the white MacBook, which the missus inherited. Now, I've been in tech and computers large and small since 1979, and she's put up with my geekiness with stoic patience. When she took possession of the white MacBook, she did something I've never seen her do before. She geeked. She dug into things, seeing what could be done, marveling at "how cool is this!" - for hours. I'm amazed, and overjoyed.
While shopping at BestBuy, she laid eyes on the 24" iMac, and actually lusted. She declaimed, "this is our next home computer! I want it!". (The thought which crossed my mind was, damn you, Best Buy, for not having Mac Pros on display...).
The iMac, as it is right now, is of adequate hardware design. Add in the elegance of OSX, and you have a love machine. Any "compelling" updates Apple can add/improve to the iMac line is icing on the cake. I have all ideas that these "compelling" updates will be unexpected, and very cool.
Anyone want to buy a recent HP laptop with XP Media Center? She won't even boot the silly thing any more, said she's "done with that, don't want to see it again, EVER...."