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Next-Generation iMac to Offer Two 'Compelling' New Features?

Toucansma said:
Umm it means that you are assuming Apple called them and told them to pull the ads. We heard one side of the story. People can say anything today and its thought to be true.
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Before MS pulled the ads, Kevin Turner had claimed Apple legal called him, and then he started boasting about it. MS changes the ads shortly after, dollars-to-donuts because they didn't want to get into any hot water.

I'm inclined to believe Apple somehow contacted MS about the matter before the ads were pulled.
 
Treq said:
There, I fixed it.
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Apple doesn't care about the economy. It had been going sour for at least a year before and they did nothing until MS ran those ads.

Toucansma said:
Umm it means that you are assuming Apple called them and told them to pull the ads. We heard one side of the story. People can say anything today and its thought to be true.
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No, I'm not assuming. Unless what I read was a lie, which is highly unlikely, it sounded like Apple did ask MS to stop the ads outright.
 
More I/O ports. Its a disgrace that the Mac Mini has more than the iMac.

At Least an Anti-Glare treatment option.

Blu-Ray

A REAL MOUSE, that doesn't cause pain.

A keyboard that matches the computer.

Quad-Core, even if its 2.22GHZ

Black Brushed Aluminium option :D

No Mini-Display Port. Use something thats supported by other companies like HDMI or Standard Display Port.

A REAL Pro Card

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iChat that can connect to more networks.
 
Treq said:
In advertising, misrepresenting the price of a competitors product is a major error. It has legal implications.
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Saladinos said:
...refusing to update a current advertisement to reflect current numbers would be misleading enough to be equivalent to lying,...
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But the law and courts would certainly make a distinction between an ad that was a blatant lie when first shown, and an ad that's was just a couple of weeks out of date.

We'll never know if Microsoft would have adjusted the ads without the call from Apple legal, or have adjusted them as quickly.

But, we only know about the call from Apple legal because Microsoft told us. Microsoft is the open company.
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Isn't this thread about the new Quad Core i7 Imac, and not Microsoft?


DocNYz said:
New expensive PCs still ship with serial ports for christ's sake!
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Thank goodness that they do.

I have several $150K Cisco Catalyst switches, and a couple of +$500K EMC fibre channel disk arrays that *require* serial port access for low level maintenance. It's the least common denominator, but essential.

It's not a coincidence that people who've bought million dollar disk drives aren't buying Apples. ;)
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
Apple doesn't care about the economy. It had been going sour for at least a year before and they did nothing until MS ran those ads.
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Of course Apple cares about the economy. You can't sell what people can't afford. They updated their price when they updated their product line. That's how they do it.
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
Apple doesn't care about the economy. It had been going sour for at least a year before and they did nothing until MS ran those ads.
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So MS engaged in a multimillion dollar marketing campaign in order to help Apple sell more Macs, and then turn out a record horrible quarter thmeselves?

Yes, Apple lowered prices somewhat and churned out new notebooks. Does it make a difference why they did it??

So if MS had never run those ads, Apple would have never lowered their prices? I love where this is going. An incompetent competitor doing Apple's advertsing for them, and then failing to deliver on their own quarter. Priceless. And oh-so MS. No wonder Apple embarrasses the hell out of them on a regular basis. But that's what you get when you've got the sales guy running the show.
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
Apple doesn't care about the economy. It had been going sour for at least a year before and they did nothing until MS ran those ads.



No, I'm not assuming. Unless what I read was a lie, which is highly unlikely, it sounded like Apple did ask MS to stop the ads outright.
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Yes what you read was about Kevin Turner blabbing Apple called him. How do you or anyone else know its true is what I was saying. People took this story and ran with it. He could very easily have made this up. It makes Apple look stupid and boasts Microsoft. If Apple tries to refute it, it brings more publicity to it. So yes you and others are assuming. Does it mean its not true? No, but nothing saying it is either.
 
Toucansma said:
Yes what you read was about Kevin Turner blabbing Apple called him. How do you or anyone else know its true is what I was saying. People took this story and ran with it. He could very easily have made this up. It makes Apple look stupid and boasts Microsoft. If Apple tries to refute it, it brings more publicity to it. So yes you and others are assuming. Does it mean its not true? No, but nothing saying it is either.
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What??

I don't see how Apple calling MS (because they had a legal basis for doing so) makes them look "stupid." Nor do I see Kevin Turner's public antics as "boosting" Microsoft. If anything, he made himself look like a fool, even without the news that Apple muscled them into changing the ads.

Somewhere along the line, before MS pulled the ads, Apple did call MS. Turner's comments fit in with this event. No reason to believe that Turner didn't get a call form Apple legal. Apparently he wasn't making it up. And the only one that looked stupid after all was said and done is MS, and especially Turner.
 
MorphingDragon said:
More I/O ports. Its a disgrace that the Mac Mini has more than the iMac.
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Would be nice, don't see it.

At Least an Anti-Glare treatment option.

Blu-Ray
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Nope.

A REAL MOUSE, that doesn't cause pain.
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Hold it differently?

A keyboard that matches the computer.
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Black keys? Nice.

Quad-Core, even if its 2.22GHZ
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Nope. People still believe the Megahertz Myth.

No Mini-Display Port. Use something thats supported by other companies like HDMI or Standard Display Port.
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A REAL Pro Card
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Seeing as it's a consumer machine in a two inch thick case, no.
 
This is proper rumor stuff - how MR assists the excitement buildup!

Game on new design that's as visually swift as the G5, user friendly as the G4 and creates the wow factor of say the early coloured iMacs, the Macbook Air and/or the iPod Touch.
 
AidenShaw said:
This borders on the "form over function" arguments - "don't use your computer, it might get dirty".

As someone who uses this every day, though, let me respond to the points.

If you're reading (say, reviewing a big PDF document), you're not necessarily glued to the keyboard and mouse. It's a visual thing (and many people have a habit of putting their fingers near what they're reading).

It's a distraction to find the mouse/pointing stick/big rectangle to move to the next paragraph - when you can brush the window with your finger to scroll.

I would think that any Iphone user would see the value in being able to have an additional mode to scroll and navigate screen content.
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And on the airplane with a bit of turbulence - brushing the screen to move the window in the PDF doc is *far* better than using a pointing device!
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Please dont misunderstand, certainly touchscreens may have their place when using different devices such as the iphone. I was mainly referring to desktop computing and contextual to the iMac and upcoming models thereof.

As for brushing the screen with you fingers to scroll, point, and poke, of course there are some that would enjoy that, I doubt that it is many and therefore should be an 'option' for those with a wish for that kind of experience, I say all the more power to options as long as to what I would suspect to be the majority, dont have to pay for it, nor utilize space / resources within our iMac enclosures. We may be quite comfortable scrolling paragraphs with the simple integrated mouse wheel utilizing our finger, thats already on it.

Since I dont mean to speak for what I only believe to be the majority, I'd welcome some more comments from others as to wether they would be interested and willing to flip the bill for scrolling their paragraphs by sliding their fingers across or poking at their brand new, next generation iMac displays.:eek:
 
So when do we think these compelling new features will turn up? I think it's too much for Apple to update iPods, release Snow Leopard AND update iMacs all in one month. Any thoughts?
 
*LTD* said:
What??

I don't see how Apple calling MS (because they had a legal basis for doing so) makes them look "stupid." Nor do I see Kevin Turner's public antics as "boosting" Microsoft. If anything, he made himself look like a fool, even without the news that Apple muscled them into changing the ads.

Somewhere along the line, before MS pulled the ads, Apple did call MS. Turner's comments fit in with this event. No reason to believe that Turner didn't get a call form Apple legal. Apparently he wasn't making it up. And the only one that looked stupid after all was said and done is MS, and especially Turner.
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I was saying that Microsoft thought Apple would look stupid, I was taking what their mindset was. As a lawyer myself, I do not see Apple just calling up Microsoft and saying hey change the ad. Who knows. Just saying
 
old-wiz said:
Can anyone imagine what a touchscreen would look like after an hour or so of typing on it? It would be so dirty!
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I can, I have one.

It doesn't.

When you seen an Iphone, is your first reaction - "Ick, the screen is dirty"?

One big reason is that the system has a keyboard - and if you're going to be typing for an hour you'll be pressing keys.

The other is, that like the Iphone, the screen coatings and brightness minimize any perception of dirty screen.

I wouldn't eat fried chicken with my fingers while typing though, that's too much. ;)
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The touchscreen on a desktop would be more useful for the more passive activities like reading and surfing.

A touchscreen laptop is more natural - your hands are already close to the screen.

I've noticed, after many months of Windows 7 multi-touch on my laptop, that I have more fingerprints on my LCD monitors than I ever had in the past.

I'm engaged in what I'm reading, not resting the hands on home-row and the mouse. I get to the bottom of the screen, and the default motor response is to poke the "next page" button on the screen. It does exactly that on the multi-touch laptop, but on the 8-core it just leaves a smudge on the big LCD :( .

When Apple starts to sell multi-touch laptops and Imacs you'll understand too. It's a big step in UI.
 
Tallest Skil said:
Nope.
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With FCS supporting Blu-Ray, BD Hollywood movie support in SL and possibly later as an update in Leopard is inevitable.

Tallest Skil said:
What "wow" factor? I got no "wow" factor from either of those. The MacBook Air was, "Wow, another power for aesthetics compromise!" and the iPod touch was, "Wow, that looks JUST like the phone I've had for months."
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The "wow factor" is that the iPT is essentially the iPhone without the contract.
 
For the 'wow' factor, visual simplicity I reckon. The iPod touch, although yes no way near the capabilities of the iPhone, is still the best iPod out there, IMHO. Movies were craved by iPod fans. Now what is craved of current iMac followers, something that makes them reconsider there interaction with the device.
 
Shake 'n' Bake said:
With FCS supporting Blu-Ray, BD movie support in SL and possibly later as an update in Leopard is inevitable.
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But we already HAVE COMPLETE support. We can burn and read data disks. We can burn and read Mac-authored movies.

The only thing we can't do is play Hollywood movies, and if Apple were planning to allow us to do that, they'd be screaming it from the tops of mountains as though they were the first ones to offer such a thing.

And I can't believe that you'd think for a second that they'd let Leopard users watch these movies when Snow Leopard (or whatever first OS) gets this support.
 
Tallest Skil said:
What "wow" factor? I got no "wow" factor from either of those. The MacBook Air was, "Wow, another power for aesthetics compromise!" and the iPod touch was, "Wow, that looks JUST like the phone I've had for months."
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The air deffinatly had a wow factor in the eyes of consumers, the ipod touch, eh just an iphone ipod hybrid, it was to be expected really.
 
MinorBidoh said:
For the 'wow' factor, visual simplicity I reckon. The iPod touch, although yes no way near the capabilities of the iPhone, is still the best iPod out there, IMHO. Movies were craved by iPod fans. Now what is craved of current iMac followers, something that makes them reconsider there interaction with the device.
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The iPT is more powerful than the iPhone 3G, so yes, if Apple were to add a camera, it would be just as capable as the iPhone.
 
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