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Next-Generation iMac to Offer Two 'Compelling' New Features?

Shake 'n' Bake said:
There is nothing professional about it, unless a consumer can't buy it. They're the same components.
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What a stupid post you made - using your logic, because a Dell Precision Laptop can be bought by a consumer, it is therefore a consumer laptop. Because I can purchase an enterprise server from Sun Microsystems, it too is a consumer product. Because I can purchase a second hand WWII tank off ebay, it is a consumer form of transport.

Please, do us all a favour and think before you put your mouth into gear.
 
deconstruct60 said:
CH-DVD is cheaper in part because leverages the large pirate disk pressing infrastructure already in place in China. There are more titles in CH-DVD than Blu-Ray in part because there are more pirates participating. So the disks are cheaper. You can cut a good chunk out of the costs if you don't pay for the IP that you are selling.
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Amazing how Americans forget their own foray into piracy when considering the nature of copyright laws in the US 200 years ago - where it was perfectly legal for a person to sell a non-authorised copy of a book and sell it to customers; the best example of this 'piracy' was Charles Dickens books and him getting annoyed that he was receiving no royalties off the books sold in the Americas.

But hey, beating up on the Chinese and calling them 'a threat' is an American past time - a diversion tactic to avoid realising the empire is collapsing.
 
Lyrrad said:
My money's on "Shake to undo".
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lol

...and I never, ever lol.

Visualizing that is still crackin me up.


...iPhone users should just start implementing that whenever we need to undo anything. Something doesn't go right, just pick up and shake. Today cell phones, tomorrow desktop computers, printers, copiers, employees, bosses, annoying neighbors... whatever.
 
Some interesting discussion. I hadn't thought about Apple ditching the Mighty Mouse but I'm starting to think that it's a distinct possibility. Apple could replace it with an oversized multi-touch trackpad. I doubt they would incorporate it with the keyboard since they would want to sell it as a stand alone device as well.

I definitely don't see them incorporating a touch screen. Too costly and it would be a novelty unless the screen was detachable.

There will definitely be a price drop. The 20" model should be $999 and the 24" should start at $1299. They will also offer a high end model with a matte screen option and hopefully quad core processors to appeal to the prosumer/professional. Other than that I expect to see an SD slot and a case redesign (slimmer and without the chin). Oh yeah, LED back lighting.
 
uricmu said:
I don't see what the excitement is about Blu Ray.

When CD burners became mainstream, most HDs were fairly tiny.

When DVD burners became mainstream, many hard drives were in the 40GB range (and below for laptops)

Now you can easily buy 1TB disks under $100, but blu-ray is not yet mainstream. By the time that it is, we will probably be at 4+TB.

In addition, external drives are getting cheaper constantly. You can get a 500GB for around $50 these days. I don't see the benefit of paying that much for burning 25GB or 50GB.
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To some it does.

To bad mac rumors doesn't run IPB 3.0, becuase i'd love to see the rating people give for peopls comments.
 
I don't see a slimmer design being a compelling feature, sure a redesign would be nice but that's a given with Apple eventually.

For me an LED display and blu-ray would equal compelling, but how do they get too compelling without getting scary with new prices!
 
I will not buy a glossy screen. Will not happen.

Which is annoying, because I'm actually looking to replace my 2006 iMac RIGHT NOW, and have nothing to upgrade to until Apple adjusts their Australian prices to reflect the Aus-US exchange rate. If the Mac Pro cost A$3000 instead of A$4500 it would be a painful purchase, but not an impossible one as it currently stands.
 
Target362 said:
To some it does.

To bad mac rumors doesn't run IPB 3.0, becuase i'd love to see the rating people give for peopls comments.
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All I said is that I don't see the benefit, feel free to see one.
Either way, I would rather buy a portable external blu-ray burner that can also function as a player (e.g., have HDMI output) then pay whatever Premium would charge for one.
 
southernpaws said:
bluuuuuuuuu raaaaaaaaaaay!!

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qui43P1kztw)
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Thats a pretty awesome PC - too bad all its awesomeness is destroyed by the fact that its running Windows Vista (Windows 7 being no better - yes, I have tried both for more than 5 minutes; point being made to any jackass who will try and claim I've never used it before).

Maybe if there was a viable alternative on the generic PC platform with the same about of hardware support and third party applications as Windows - I'd consider purchasing a 'PC' over a Mac. Until that day arrives, I'm stuck using a Mac.
 
macintoshtoffy said:
Thats a pretty awesome PC - too bad all its awesomeness is destroyed by the fact that its running Windows Vista (Windows 7 being no better - yes, I have tried both for more than 5 minutes; point being made to any jackass who will try and claim I've never used it before).

Maybe if there was a viable alternative on the generic PC platform with the same about of hardware support and third party applications as Windows - I'd consider purchasing a 'PC' over a Mac. Until that day arrives, I'm stuck using a Mac.
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I find windows 7 a lot more stable then vista.

but then again, it still has issues that Microsoft choses to ignore. :rolleyes:
 
Squozen said:
I will not buy a glossy screen. Will not happen.

Which is annoying, because I'm actually looking to replace my 2006 iMac RIGHT NOW, and have nothing to upgrade to until Apple adjusts their Australian prices to reflect the Aus-US exchange rate. If the Mac Pro cost A$3000 instead of A$4500 it would be a painful purchase, but not an impossible one as it currently stands.
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You think that is bad, over here in NZ, the cheapest Mac Pro is $5,999.99 including GST (GST being 12.5%).

It pisses me off because at one stage Apple were selling PowerMac's at half the price; why not sell a dual core entry level model? sure, people don't expect a dirty cheap mythical xMac but if they bought back a Mac Pro at around NZ$2,999 (incl GST), alot more people would be willing to go and get it - heck, I'd make a deal, buy the computer and get the screen at half price. Get the volume moving through the store and it'll make up for any margin lost.
 
Target362 said:
I find windows 7 a lot more stable then vista.

but then again, it still has issues that Microsoft choses to ignore. :rolleyes:
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Stability has never been a problem with me, and when I mean stable - I am not talking about crappy applications that crash on Windows, because that is the fault of the third party, not Microsoft.

What I am talking about is the horrible UI - Windows 7 now has over a dozen different UI's, even more different types of widgets/command controls, GDI+ still being used with all its crappiness instead of being whole sale replaced with Direct2D/DirectWrite which is fully hardware accelerated.

Microsoft has introduced some great technology but the operating system components itself are still using 20+ year old technology that has been replaced with superior, more modern technologies.

Then there is the stupid locking of files, the uninstall, the install, the registry, the drive letters, the lay out of the whole file system which seems to be a random crap shot of throwing anything in any old random place - why isn't there clean separation between 64bit and 32bit libraries like there is in UNIX? why hasn't Microsoft come up with a decent package manager that keeps track of not only files but the changes these applications make to the registry and the files it makes whilst running?

For me, it has nothing to do with wanting something radically different, high end, super-duper modern with bells and whistles; I just expect Microsoft to get the fundamentals right. If they got those right, I'd be a happy Windows user.
 
Obviously, it's Blu-ray and an SD card slot. Blu-ray is the most requested feature for the iMac (though I have no idea why), and an SD card slot will follow its inclusion on the MacBook Pros. I would expect Quad cores to also be coming, and a re-design is hinted at...will the iMac go black?
 
macintoshtoffy said:
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What I am talking about is the horrible UI - Windows 7 now has over a dozen different UI's, even more different types of widgets/command controls, GDI+ still being used with all its crappiness instead of being whole sale replaced with Direct2D/DirectWrite which is fully hardware accelerated.
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aero is nice, and no, there are not a "half dozzen UIS" but rather a half dozzen controls and command bars

http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view/2308

each also has a different hover over, as a windows 7 fan, I hate it.

Microsoft has introduced some great technology but the operating system components itself are still using 20+ year old technology that has been replaced with superior, more modern technologies.
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Agreed.

Then there is the stupid locking of files, the uninstall, the install, the registry, the drive letters, the lay out of the whole file system which seems to be a random crap shot of throwing anything in any old random place - why isn't there clean separation between 64bit and 32bit libraries like there is in UNIX? why hasn't Microsoft come up with a decent package manager that keeps track of not only files but the changes these applications make to the registry and the files it makes whilst running?
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that may come once a rewrite is in place, but by then we will be in the stupid cloud computeing.

I for one don't want to be running a web OS.

For me, it has nothing to do with wanting something radically different, high end, super-duper modern with bells and whistles; I just expect Microsoft to get the fundamentals right. If they got those right, I'd be a happy Windows user.
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Both Apple and Microsoft have their faults

Remember, if Apple was soooooooooooooo perfect, then why the need for the security upgrades? 10.5.8?

macintoshtoffy said:
How many people actually watch movies on their laptop?

The only reason why I want it is storage; as for movies, I couldn't care less - I don't want to see the system slowing technology of secure path coming to Mac OS X just so I can watch a movie.
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I watch movies on my laptop.

and you can only use the stoarge if its a blu-ray BURNER.
 
Target362 said:
People on this forum say otherwise.
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I just dont get where people get these statements from, "the most requested feature is bluray".

According to whom exactly? I had no idea that there were polls and studies focused solely on macs that are released by a trustable source.
 
NT1440 said:
I just dont get where people get these statements from, "the most requested feature is bluray".

According to whom exactly? I had no idea that there were polls and studies focused solely on macs that are released by a trustable source.
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why the need to quote me?
 
macintoshtoffy said:
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How many people actually watch movies on their laptop?

The only reason why I want it is storage; as for movies, I couldn't care less - I don't want to see the system slowing technology of secure path coming to Mac OS X just so I can watch a movie.
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Actually, a lot. Just look around you on the plane.

More importantly, Apple is woefully behind on most things HTPC. I tried running an HTPC with a MacMini, first on OS X. But the lack of a decent front-end, format limitations, etc., pushed me into trying Vista on the Mini, and I haven't looked back.

Later, I bought an AOPEN, which is the size of the MacMini, but with better video and can do faster processors, and it runs BluRay perfectly, and have a perfect dedicated HTPC. It is super-stable (I don't remember it crashing, ever, and it runs 24/7).

So, while I love Macs and use them for everything else, for HTPC purposes, Apple is a joke (and AppleTV is an insult....)

But on the iMac, I am not even sure I care about BR. Plus, it's a few years too late.

I'd rather have maybe a little bigger screen instead, like 26-28".
 
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