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And Apple's march toward becoming 80's era Sony continues. They are now a consumer electronics company.

No longer is the focus on doing, creating, and accomplishing. It's all about consumption.

iTools/.Mac was a way to share what you'd created. iCloud is all about consumption.

Other than iTunes -- a consumption engine -- none of the iLife apps get significant attention anymore. Ditch iDVD. Ditch iWeb. Dumb down iMovie.

I feel old.

iDVD - we have USB flash drives
iWeb - facebook
imovie - it's for basic home editing, not pro or wannabe pro markets
 
Well, if you live in the UK and own any equipment which is capable of receiving a television signal, you're absolutely screwed if the iMac happens to be the only TV you own (one licence covers multiple TV sets in one household):

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/

You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder.
It costs £145.50 for colour and £49.00 for a black and white TV Licence.

The £145.50 is an annual fee, not a one-time thing.
 
How would this work? You would have to get the cable TV signal to the iMac somehow... would this be through an Apple TV, a direct coax connection, some sort of WiFi connection to my TV that doesn't currently have WiFi capability?

This sounds great in theory, but I'm not sure how so many average users would get a cable signal from the box in their living room to the iMac in their home office/bedroom/den down the hall at the other end of the house.
 
This rumor is garbage. A 27in iMac starts at $1699. Whats a 32in iMac going to cost, $2499? I could get a 70in HDTV for that much. How much will a 55in iMac be?

An Apple branded HDTV will be an iOS device, not a Mac device.

What is more plausible is Apple adding a tv tuner and a dvr to iMacs for those living in studio apartments, watch tv in studies, etc. It seems so cheesy HP crap to me.
 
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roadbloc said:
Can we do rid of these stupid analyst threads please? Oh and the court case threads. Neither are interesting.

If you add store openings to your list, I am in.
 
I use an old 30" monitor and it is almost too-big. Anything larger would be uncomfortable to use. I wouldn't favor sitting 10' away from a monitor, and I doubt most others would want that when doing dedicated productivity or browsing. That analyst is pumping psychic to grab a buck--that's the speculation market.

If Apple follows the advice of myriad tech gurus and critics over the last decade, they'd supply the tech that would supplement and run other products. Thus, if Apple would want to take the TV biz, it isn't that they'd make some sickly over-priced TV competing with SHARP and Samsung and SONY and soforth; they'd supply Apple TVs to be put into all those makers' TVs that feed into Apple's TV/video/internet/app/music services. It sounded like Apple might be doing that, thus a TV would appear soon saying "SHARP 50" TV WITH APPLE TV INSIDE!".

Or so I would hope. I wouldn't pay $2000 for an Apple Logo'd TV when I could buy a $1000 other-make TV and $100 for an Apple TV. And if Apple shuts down Apple TV in order to sell Apple televisions for $2000, I'll skip Apple TV and Apple televisions.

Tv suuuuucks.....

Agreed. Ratings prove that most people feel this way.
 
Well, if you live in the UK and own any equipment which is capable of receiving a television signal, you're absolutely screwed if the iMac happens to be the only TV you own (one licence covers multiple TV sets in one household):

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/



The £145.50 is an annual fee, not a one-time thing.

Wait, what?

you have to pay to watch tv? Is this just regular old over the air tv? wow...
 
Just to get it out of the way.
Blu Ray???? *crickets* Negative so no?

Same question over and over. Same answer: Not cost effective. You're far better off getting a seperate player/burner. That would cost far less than what Apple would have to charge to design and fit it into their iMac chassis.
 
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chrmjenkins said:
Can we do rid of these stupid analyst threads please? Oh and the court case threads. Neither are interesting.

Oh look, a story I'm not interested in! I'll just skip ov...

NO, WHAT ARE YOU DOING FINGER?

DON'T... CLICK...

ARGGGHHHHHHH

WHY...


Ok finger. You got what you want. I'm going to say something negative in the thread to spite you though.

This argument is lame.

1. These posts clog up the main page.

2. If one skips over this and does not provide feedback, how could one expect anything to change?

3. Your exact point could be applied to your post. Why don't you just skip over comments you don't like? Is your finger forcing you to reply?
 
Actually this is starting to make more sense. I'm beginning to think that Steve has seen the move from people doing their computing in their home office, to doing more computing on the sofa or in bed, i.e. the popularity of MBA and iPads. If you move the family computer out to the living room, which is the center of most households these days, you can see how people would get more use out of it.

So I think the idea with the new Apple TV maybe to just make it a big iMac. It's still a bold strategy, but there is a definite dynamic shift in our culture now that is making the TV the centerpoint of our lives. Whether you like it or not. So why not try to integrate the family computer with that?

We shall see how it pans out. Personally I never ever thought the iPad would be as popular as it is. So I can still be surprised.

Depends on how the family is set up and what show they watch together.
In the real world I see more and more families with everybody doing their own thing.
Since the TV requires to only watch one thing at a time, the kids usually watch whatever they want on either a separate TV or idevice.

Same for the "family" computer. Not unusual that there needs to be more than one. Somebody is always on it and nobody wants to wait for anything these days.

Watching TV on a desktop is uncomfortable, although many people watch TV on their macs and work or do other tasks at the same time during commercials.
So, all in all multiplying whatever what one to watch is more important then having it in one do-it -all device.
 
If this rumor is true (a big "if" in my opinon) I think this will be one of those cases where the functionality offered will end up being a bit limited and lacking - just like the first rev/attempt of many new product offerings (or in this case, the incorporation of new functionality into an existing product). As a result, I would probably wait for future revisions, or, ultimately just the proper Apple television set itself if it's only a year away.
 
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This argument is lame.

1. These posts clog up the main page.

From what? Is anyone claiming they are missing posts of substance because of posts like this? Besides, this is a product rumor. This is the bread and butter of the website. You may disagree with the credibility of the source, but you can't deny the relevance of the article.

2. If one skips over this and does not provide feedback, how could one expect anything to change?

If he skips over it, he is providing feedback. If a post like this has fewer views, methinks someone with a brain will figure people aren't interested in stories like this.

3. Your exact point could be applied to your post. Why don't you just skip over comments you don't like? Is your finger forcing you to reply?

His point was to state an opinion. Mine was to make a joke.
 
"Cracked"

While this seems more feasible than the current rumors regarding the Apple TV sets, I doubt this too. Since everybody made a big deal about Steve Jobs having "cracked" the TV issue, I doubt it took all that time to figure out how to throw in a TV tuner into a computer :)

I would think the "cracked" would be similar on how he was able to get content providers to buy into iTunes to start getting paid a little bit for what they produce instead of having it mostly stollen over the internet. Apple has become a primary distribution force for music and apps. I would think "cracking" it means he figured a way to effectively and efficiently distribute TV programming for content providers for a measly 30% cut. You can be sure their distribution costs far exceed that now.
 
Been doing this for awhile now

My iMac 27" is my TV, has been for over a year now. I use Netflix, Hulu, and channel domains to receive all the TV I could want and more!
 
How would this work? You would have to get the cable TV signal to the iMac somehow... would this be through an Apple TV, a direct coax connection, some sort of WiFi connection to my TV that doesn't currently have WiFi capability?

This sounds great in theory, but I'm not sure how so many average users would get a cable signal from the box in their living room to the iMac in their home office/bedroom/den down the hall at the other end of the house.

It would come to you the same way as iTunes and the internet currently get inside your box. One connection handles it all.
 
With the low low prices on TV's now it's not an exciting rumor. It's incredible how TV prices have dropped, both large and small screen.

Advancing wireless technolgy also makes an 'all in one' TV/Computer less attractive.
 
My iMac 27" is my TV, has been for over a year now. I use Netflix, Hulu, and channel domains to receive all the TV I could want and more!

Good point - even in my case where I don't use Netflix or Hulu, I just download the vast majority of the TV shows I am interested in and watch them on my iMac or stream them to my media server to watch on my main TV. That being said, for any local content, sports (or any live event in general), a TV tuner would come in handy I suppose if one were wanting to make their iMac a true, complete TV solution.

That being said, the rumored Apple TV set with Siri integration is probably what I would hold out for. Of course, whenever I end up in the market for a new iMac, if it included TV functionality of some sort I wouldn't complain and would definitely take advantage of it!
 
Eye TV

We already use the iMac as a TV with a USB stick eye TV - it works as a TV and uses the HD as a DVR, so I see no reason to make a new purchase to get a facility that I've had for years.:)
 
My iMac has been my TV since the 27" came out in 2009. I discovered that the closer you sit the larger the screen becomes, so I now have a huge screen.
 
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