Yeah very much so, but it's hard to compare to iPhone 4. It was truly a great upgrade, the design and retina graphics were an amazing upgrade alone. I for one can't stand looking at my older non-retina devices, it is so drastic.
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Next-Generation iPhone to Use A6 System-on-a-Chip?
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Yeah very much so, but it's hard to compare to iPhone 4. It was truly a great upgrade, the design and retina graphics were an amazing upgrade alone. I for one can't stand looking at my older non-retina devices, it is so drastic.
But there's no "Ax SoC roadmap" published, is there? I mean they could call anything they want an "A6" 🙂 I have no doubt whatever they dub A6 will be a significant improvement, but we don't know how aggressive ahead of time...
NT1440
macrumors P6
You're first sentence clashes horribly with the rest of your post....
Also, "better" is completely up to the user and use case. I personally dislike how busy everything in the Android UI is, including their notifications in the top bar.
Menel
Suspended
Or a die shrunk 32nm A5 like the iPad2,4 has test run 😉
*shrug* who knows, but from photos A6 sounds likely!
Would be really cheap if they renamed the die shrunk A5 from iPad2,4 to A6.😡
pgiguere1
macrumors 68020
Populus
macrumors 604
My first post 😀
Well well... I think it's a good moment for me to post my first comment in MacRumors. And I'm pleased of it 🙂
So, regarding the A6 on next iPhone topic, I still believe the A5X is a better choice for Apple. I don't think the iPhone need a quad core processor yet, and a new architecture A6 in the 2013 iPhone would be a good bait. If they put an A6 in the next iPhone, Which will be the stellar feature on an hypothetic iPhone 5S?
This said, i'd seriously think about buying this iPhone if it really features an A6 chip. Only if it has a measured battery consumption.
BTW, if I make some mistake writing, please let me know. I'm spanish and this is the first time I write a post on an forum where english is the main language.
Regards!
Well well... I think it's a good moment for me to post my first comment in MacRumors. And I'm pleased of it 🙂
So, regarding the A6 on next iPhone topic, I still believe the A5X is a better choice for Apple. I don't think the iPhone need a quad core processor yet, and a new architecture A6 in the 2013 iPhone would be a good bait. If they put an A6 in the next iPhone, Which will be the stellar feature on an hypothetic iPhone 5S?
This said, i'd seriously think about buying this iPhone if it really features an A6 chip. Only if it has a measured battery consumption.
BTW, if I make some mistake writing, please let me know. I'm spanish and this is the first time I write a post on an forum where english is the main language.
Regards!
I disagree. The 4 was already a bit laggy when I first got it (and I got it the day it came out). Not much, it still was smooth mostly, but I did notice it (it worried me some since I knew I was going to have the phone for 2 years and my 3G had started being pretty laggy before I got the 4... I was expecting cause of that it would be just as bad as the 3G by the time my contract was up, if not worse. ANd so far, I'd say it's just as bad if not worse now). It wasn't bothersome except it was a teller to me that it would end up being laggy by the 2nd year like my 3G was.
This is the one rumor that has me excited about the new phone (it's way better than NFC which I only wanted cause I wanted something to be excited about, even if I suspected I wouldn't really use it. So even though the rumor is strong no NFC, I won't care if this rumor is true or even if just the iphone gets a good increase in power over the 4S). Sadly, I don't know enough about the chips to say I should be, but my thing is if they actually put in a significantly better processor or graphics card or both (and more RAM, I really want more RAM cause I think that's a big issue with my 4), that's what I really want. I don't want just a small spec increase from the previous phone like my 4 or 3G was. It's been proved to me that is how you end up with a phone that doesn't really stand the test of time (note the 3GS has lasted a long time and it had a pretty big spec increase from the previous phone. I expect the 4S will be the same way).
Really, the few things I want to see in the new iphone are all things people take for granted in a new phone (and therefore have people here yawn if it has it, but I think they are important), faster speed/better graphics capability, better camera, better battery life (or at the very least the same. I hope better than the previous phone cause I hear the 4 is better than the 4S in that regards), and more storage space (I only have 1 GB left on my 32 GB phone). I'll be even more excited if some how they introduce a 128GB phone (I know, that's not going to happen, but at least 64 GB would be decent).
the8thark
macrumors 601
Isn't that something you should worry about only if you are Apple or working for them? Why would it be bad for the consumer that they'd have to find something even better next year? Why would it be good for us for them to hold out on something that would be good now just to have the next year's phone be exciting?
Sure, marketing wise it's good for them, but it isn't good for the consumer. It means we get something that was held off on so they can have something to show next year. Which I know they do but that doesn't mean I think we should hope for that!!!!! Well, unless you have stock in Apple (which maybe you do, I don't. So I'm not going to hope they are going to hold out on features just so the next phone has something and they don't have to think harder on what to put on the next phone).
pgiguere1
macrumors 68020
Don't worry, your English is very good and much easier to read than some people's whose English is their main language. 😉
I don't think the next iPhone will use a quad-core CPU either. A6 could mean it's a modified A5 with higher clock speed and smaller die size, similar to the difference between the iPhone 3GS's CPU and the A4 in the iPhone 4. Both were single-core and used the same core architecture (Cortex A9), yet there was a considerable speed difference between the two. I agree that 4 cores would be useless for now given that it would most likely decrease battery life.
matrix07
macrumors G3
I'm going to guess if it were *just* a different clock speed and die size, they would not call it an A6... Because we already have different clock speed and die size A5s, and they are all just called "A5."
Of course, there is more to the SoC than just CPU (and GPU), so it could be similar CPU/GPU wise to the A5 but have some other additions/features aside from die size and clock.
William Gates
macrumors 6502
You are right, not all of us could be so lucky. Here is what Anand said though:
Marco Arment also weighed in on the A6 today:
It is the ARM A15 or nothing for me
I think it should be 2 core A15 CPU and a minor bump in graphics from the 4S at 32nm
Apple can't go on less for the next whole year....
I think it should be 2 core A15 CPU and a minor bump in graphics from the 4S at 32nm
Apple can't go on less for the next whole year....
pgiguere1
macrumors 68020
I don't see a lot of uses where pulling out a stylus is more useful than using your thumb. It's just an added step that will make it longer to do basic stuff like a phone call, texting, checking your emails, fast online fact-checking, etc. while requiring both your hands to be free.
The only use it has is for drawing apps/games like Draw Something or Photoshop touch. A capacitive stylus is precise enough for a very simple game like Draw Something, and if you were to do any serious Photoshopping, you'd be using the desktop version. Even a desktop version from over a decade ago (Photoshop 7.0) is more capable than any mobile version of Photoshop. You just can't do anything useful on Photoshop touch other than basic sketching. If you were also serious about pen input, you'd use a large surface that offers a way better level of precision than the Note's screen, something like a Wacom Intuos/Cintiq.
If you want something portable, you'd be way better with a Surface Pro running the desktop version of Photoshop. Photoshop touch on a Note is just worthless for now.
cldeweese7
macrumors newbie
Severely may have been the incorrect word to use. It does look shopped to me though, along with the luminosity photo posted a while back, there is a distinct line of shade difference along the chip that doesn't go along with the banding in the photo. The text looks slightly skewed on the chip as well, and a little too bright compared to other chips I've seen.
But then again, I said "to me" originally, and didn't qualify myself as an expert, because I am not.
You are perfectly right with one exception - the stylus has a sensitivity of 1024. So it actually resembles not only the size but also the sensitivity of early Wacom tablets (I still have an Intuos 2 that has a very littly drawing size).
So I guess it could be useful. But nevertheless I haven't tried personally and won't comment any further. But I'd like to try one as the handwriting recognition in S Note actually works quite good (judging from the S3 implementation), but taking Notes with a fingertip looks horribly clunky compared to a stylus.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
And when I say slight improvement to the gpu, I mean making up for the extra pixels that will be on the new screen... And maybe a 15% improvement overall...
The new screen for sure will prevent apple from throwing the same A5 in there....
The new screen for sure will prevent apple from throwing the same A5 in there....
verniesgarden
macrumors 65816
The A5 is fully capable of driving an iPad 2's 786,432 pixels, so it would have no problem (@ 1 ghz) driving a 6th gen iPhone's rumored 727,040 pixels... Especially with just a minor clock speed increase. Not saying that's what it will be, but it's perfectly logical. Or perhaps that is exactly what you're saying 🙂
s15119
macrumors 68000
Nothing at all has been confirmed. How can you be downbeat about a which has not been announced? Rumors do not equal confirmation.
I'm surprised they would utilize a [supposedly] faster AX chip over the current third generation Apple TV's abysmal single-Core A5. I realize iPhone's sell much more than Apple's "hobby" product, but claiming to push 1080P HD videos on an under-powered system that doesn't natively support DTS or better surround sound or other codecs for sub-par 1080P encodes is ludicrous.
In regards to other "rumors", I hate to state such but if the next iPhone doesn't include NFC (which frankly should have been implemented a long time ago, MC and VISA have already verified working with "companies" on NFC pay systems for mobile devices but I'm certain talks hit a wall negotiating Apple's "take"), I'm fine with my 4S. I hardly even use all the bells and whistles these days as I'm trying to unplug for online communication and join the "real world". 🙂
In regards to other "rumors", I hate to state such but if the next iPhone doesn't include NFC (which frankly should have been implemented a long time ago, MC and VISA have already verified working with "companies" on NFC pay systems for mobile devices but I'm certain talks hit a wall negotiating Apple's "take"), I'm fine with my 4S. I hardly even use all the bells and whistles these days as I'm trying to unplug for online communication and join the "real world". 🙂
A5X can't b used in iPhone. It was designed for iPad and it's too power hungry for a phone. While A6 obviously would be a different chip from A5 it does not necessarily mean that it's a different architecture. It could be simply produced using newer tech process (some minor design updates could be added too). New tech process would make the processor more power efficient. Most people think that this is exactly what's in store for iPhone 5.
A bump in clock speed could only bring it up to 4S performance??? Not sure people or speed freaks will be happy with that... LTE will be a big improvement... Idk I have big doubts it will be the same A5.... They just can't run with that for a whole year....