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Doubling the resolution would be quite a change, but that's still just a bit smaller than the iPad, so I can believe it.

That’s also higher res than the Droid. And I really like the sharpness of my friend’s Droid at 480x854. (Too bad it only looks good in the dark though! Not good in sunlight.)

An iPad-style, sunlight-friendly IPS LCD, plus super high-res, would look awesome.

And current apps could pixel-double and look no worse than they do today (which is excellent to begin with). Parts of the screen (text, OpenGL 3D) could take advantage of the new res without reprogramming, I would expect.

Maybe it'll run iPad apps!
 
Anybody with 7th grade reading comprehension skills can see he was simply being SARCASTIC about how vague and uninformative the rumor of the Verizon iPhone was... In no context, shape, way or form is he implying that these are COMING to the next phone.

Talk about TWISTING.
 
Let the new iPhone RUMORS and BILLION threads begin! :sigh:

Seeing is believing. The only way I'll believe this is I see Steve on stage with it in his hand talking about it.
 
Anybody with 7th grade reading comprehension skills can see he was simply being SARCASTIC about how vague and uninformative the rumor of the Verizon iPhone was... In no context, shape, way or form is he implying that these are COMING to the next phone.
Talk about TWISTING.

Shhh... Read the first tweet, and then open and read the second tweet (which is a reply to the first).

http://twitter.com/mrw/status/11275799798
http://twitter.com/gruber/status/11279387278

Anybody with a 7th grade reading comprehension blah blah blah - I hate when people use this sentence.
 
Let us all not forget what Steve said at that all hands meeting on the Apple Campus after the iPad announcement. The new iPhone was going to be a "A+ upgrade".
 
This summer is going to be very interesting.

I look forward to see what Apple does with the next iPhone before deciding to upgrade my 3G.
 
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The iPhone will ALWAYS leave people wanting...

Besides, Apple doesn't listen to its customers and has always treated its fan base with a little disdain...
 
Anybody with 7th grade reading comprehension skills can see he was simply being SARCASTIC about how vague and uninformative the rumor of the Verizon iPhone was... In no context, shape, way or form is he implying that these are COMING to the next phone.

Talk about TWISTING.

You know, I really don't understand how anyone who has read Gruber's posts on even a semi-regular basis, could see it as anything other than his way of presenting what he has heard (from his inside peeps). As arn mentioned, that's just his style.

Whether it turns out to be factual or not is another matter. But as has been mentioned, he has a pretty good track record.
 
No, it won't work - the problem is with spatial references. Lets say I'm an app developer and I (like all app developers) use pixel references in my code.

So I might have a 10 pixel margin down the left of my apps homescreen. Now lets say the new screen is 800 x 480 pixels.... how am I going to make 10 pixels into 16.6 pixels? - I can't (that would be the scale factor). So Instead I'm going to have to make 10 pixels into 16 pixels, with 0.66 of a pixel missing. So there is no way this is going to work (because now my app is all out of proportion). You can only rescale apps by integers, and the next whole number after 1 is 2... and a 2 times scale would be 960 x 640 - but as has been discussed, that is very unlikely.

Kesuke, you're arguing against your own made up numbers.

The rumor, and I believe Gruber's right because he usually is, is that the resolution will be 960x640, essentially double. So that issue you just mentioned, goes away, that 10 pixel margin becomes a 20 pixel margin.

As for your claim that it can't possibly be 960x640 because HTC's highest is 840xwhatever is silly. Like someone else mentioned, Droid is 854xwhatever, so manufacturers are free to choose whatever size panels they lay their hands on.
 
You know, I really don't understand how anyone who has read Gruber's posts on even a semi-regular basis, could see it as anything other than his way of presenting what he has heard (from his inside peeps). As arn mentioned, that's just his style.

Easy: people usually don't ACTUALLY READ things. As a member of these boards, you should know that ;)
 
It might not do anygood but I will ask anyways.

How does speculation from some random person online who isn't honest enough to admit he has no inside information considered factual enough for you to have an opinion on whether Apple should use the A4?
I didn't read Johns article that way. It is just a sarcastic response to the newspaper article.
Clearly the A4 is far more powerful than the CPU in the GS -- this is obvious looking at videos of the products-- thus if they put an A4 in the next iPhone it would be a huge improvement.
It would be if they can extend the battery life. For many of us time between recharges is critical.
Yet you want a Cortex-A9, which you (wrongly because you don't actually know) presume is not in the iPad. But you have no real reason. To you, a Cortex-A9 is just something people snidely said that apple should be using but isn't.... people who, in my experience, haven't the first clue.

I happen to have some inside information (available to all iPhone developers) that I won't reveal but that is consistent with the A4 having a Cortex-A9, not that it actually matters at all.
Now we get to the meat and my question for you. Did Apple craft it's own vector unit for the ARM processor in the A4? I ask because of recent patent filings one could say are for an embedded vector processor. Since it wouldn't make sense for Apple to fab such technology for Intel based hardware the only place it would likely go would be on an ARM processor.
In part I ask because of the patents and in part because some of that good performance doesn't seem to be because of dual processors.
The A4 is not an off the shelf ARM CPU, it is a custom design.

Demanding that apple forgoe the advantages of a custom design and use an off the shelf CPU is shortsited and silly.
Well that is debatable. I can't see Apple being able to do a hell of a lot with just the ARM 32 bit core. Dropping ARAs vector unit for something Apple designed makes a lot of sense though. So I wouldn't be surprised to see a core that executes the generic ARM instruction set with limited or no Apple extensions there.

I look at it this way, where do you (Apple) put your money for the highest payoff or performance gain. The ARM core or things closely attached to it?


Dave
 
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The iPhone will ALWAYS leave people wanting...

Besides, Apple doesn't listen to its customers and has always treated its fan base with a little disdain...

To be fair. It's not entirely Apple's fault. Sites like this build up the hype to a crescendo that always results in a delivery that is much less than was expected by the fanbois who were drooling over every rumor that appeared.

However, the more Google and Android compete with Apple the more I think we'll see Apple fighting to not lose any market share to them, which could mean more interesting capabilities being introduced sooner and quicker than we've come to expect from them.

I hope at the very least both Apple and Google thrive in the smart phone space because it'll be win-win for us, the consumers.
 
Please Apple do NOT use the A4 chip. We want multiple Cortex A9. Originally I too though A4 was A9 but latest information states it isn't.

given the plethora of innovative applications available and sprouted on Mac OS X its not worth limiting future potential.

Who really cares which ARM is used as long as the damned thing is fast!
 
The htc evo 4g from sprint kills the iPhone in every aspect

I currently have an iPhone 3gs 32gb, but for sure I am switching to sprint whit their new htc evo, It has all the features that the iPhone need. I think that not even the iPhone 4g or what ever it's going to be called will beat this one. Apples is not going to make the iPhone better then Their newest product the ipad, that makes no sense to make a product and a couple months later bring something to kill it.
 
Next iPhone will be dubbed...... " iPhone HD " Coming to a carrier near you 6/22/2010

I don't know if that's serious speculation or not, but I'll reply anyway. :)

I'd put money against that being the name due to the mere fact that Apple is allowing app developers to dub their iPad content with the "HD" moniker (according to app store screenshots). That sort of thing would lead to a world of confusion down the road if there was an "iPhone HD".
 
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