Next iPhone to Have Thinner, Higher Quality Screen

[cdmoore74]

Dumb idea!! If the screen is enlarged and the the glass is thinner wouldn't it be more prone to flex? And when you grip a phone you don't want it too thin. There is a point where you shouldn't continue to make a phone thinner.
What's funny is that this only benefits case users and I prefer otterbox anyway.

 

[aziatiklover]

From the leaks it doesnt even look stunning thin! Barely thin compare to a 4/4s smh!

 

[Roller]

Exactly that + don't forget the LTE, I really hope that apple for once to do something about where the competition fails, aka to make a phone with a good battery life + latest technology.


What most people don't realize is that the iPhone doesn't need to be made bigger to get a larger screen in width and height, all they need to do is the width of the 3GS and the height of ip 4 then you can get a 4" to 4.3" screen, ofc the Bessel will get smaller.
Anyway I find it a bit hard to believe that apple will go for the 16.9 ratio since this is ********ing up the ecosystem + if they do it they will be stuck to that screen for 2 to 4 year, you know ecosystem, fragmentation etc.

I used to think that the iPhone's screen was as large as I'd ever want it to be. But now I'm using my iPhone 4S in ways that I never imagined five years ago, so I'd welcome a larger display horizontally as well as vertically. But I don't want it at the expense of less battery life. Even now, I sometimes struggle to make it through the day on one full charge.

 

[seron]

This thinness race is the same bull as the megapixel race.

I read elsewhere that the retina MBP is extremely fagile. Another reason not to get it.

 

[Thunderhawks]

Alright Apple!

Only 7.9 mm to go until it's invisible!

 

[Apple Knowledge Navigator]

This thinness race is the same bull as the megapixel race.

I read elsewhere that the retina MBP is extremely fagile. Another reason not to get it.

Sources.

 

[KnightWRX]

This thinness race is the same bull as the megapixel race.

What's bull about the megapixel race ? More pixels means more details. Sure it's not the only measure of image quality for cameras or screens (sensor quality and size, aperture, LCD technology, viewing angles, color gamut, etc..)

At the end of the day, thinness or mega pixels are both specs. A device is a combination of specs and no one should be choosing based on a single spec, but on the whole of them. None are really "bull"

 

[RobertMartens]

battery life people.

What are 'battery life people'?

 

[nangariel]

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We've always been at war with Eastasia

 

[RobertMartens]

Once again; Where is the down vote button?!

Do what I do, just don't push the up button, a lot.

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[seron]

Sources.

Read this.

What's bull about the megapixel race ? More pixels means more details. Sure it's not the only measure of image quality for cameras or screens (sensor quality and size, aperture, LCD technology, viewing angles, color gamut, etc..)

At the end of the day, thinness or mega pixels are both specs. A device is a combination of specs and no one should be choosing based on a single spec, but on the whole of them. None are really "bull"

The bull I refer to is the increase of camera sensor megapixels for marketing purposes that was going on for years. It did not make images better and mostly had detrimental effect to image quality, so you are wrong about details as those would usually get lost in the noise. It's known as the megapixel race and most people who know about it recognise it for what it is. Marketing bull. I argue that this thinness race belong to the same class of bull.

 

[Sedrick]

What's bull about the megapixel race ? More pixels means more details. Sure it's not the only measure of image quality for cameras or screens (sensor quality and size, aperture, LCD technology, viewing angles, color gamut, etc..)

At the end of the day, thinness or mega pixels are both specs. A device is a combination of specs and no one should be choosing based on a single spec, but on the whole of them. None are really "bull"

My take on a 'megapixel race' is the continued push for higher and higher ppi when the human eye can't even detect beyond 300ppi. This 'saber rattling', if you will, only leads to more and more drain on batteries - the weakest link in cell phones.

I wish the same effort that's being put into displays was being put into battery longevity.

 

[Pivs]

Didn't we already know this?

 

[hickabob]

I think it's a testament to apple that they are always putting innovation in their products. A lot of other companies just use industry norms for the innerds and the looks of their products. Apple's agenda might just be to be able to market it as the "thinnest phone ever", but they found an innovative way to make it that way.

 

[gnasher729]

How would it improve the image quality exactly? Denser resolution or something?

Less stuff between the LCD and your eyes.

What's bull about the megapixel race ? More pixels means more details. Sure it's not the only measure of image quality for cameras or screens (sensor quality and size, aperture, LCD technology, viewing angles, color gamut, etc..)

With the same sensor size in a camera, more pixels means less light per pixel, which means more noise, which means at some point less image quality. For the typical sensor size in cheap cameras, 6 Megapixels gives overall best image quality. Unfortunately it is easy to build a camera with the same tiny sensor but 12 Megapixels, which sells better while producing lower image quality.

 

[rotax]

Igzo ?

Is this an IGZO display? or something different?

 

[apolloa]

While I couldn't care less about the half a millimetre saving this makes, it will be interesting to see what it does for the quality.

 

[0038396]

I agree. That iPhone 4S can't hold a *candle* to that amazing Nexus One or the Samsung Galaxy S!

This made me lol. Also, it is such a good argument to so many fandroids who say what this guy said

What's bull about the megapixel race ? More pixels means more details. Sure it's not the only measure of image quality for cameras or screens (sensor quality and size, aperture, LCD technology, viewing angles, color gamut, etc..)

Camera makers improved megapixels without improving other things, so the picture became worse.

 

[JulianL]

If this and other rumours are true then:

From Apple specs, iPhone 4S height x width = 115.2mm x 58.6mm

From this article, internal width for battery in iPhone 4S = 4.3mm

That gives a theoretical maximum internal battery volume of 29,028 cubic millimeters in the iPhone 4S.

From other rumours about the next iPhone the rumoured height x width = 58.47mm x 123.83mm (source: https://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/2...evice-dock-connector-said-to-include-19-pins/). Note discrepancy in rumoured thickness vs this article by the way.

From this article, internal width for battery in next iPhone = 3.84 mm

That gives a theoretical maximum internal battery volume of 27,803 cubic millimeters for the next iPhone which is 95.8% of the iPhone 4S.

The above are theoretical maxima which could never be achieved because the electronics also needs to share that space but various other rumours point towards Apple taking aggressive steps to minimise the volume taken up by some of the electronics (rumours include a smaller docking connector and using nano-SIM). Higher levels of integration from the rest of the electronics plus a move to 32nm for the Soc should also help maximise the volume left over for the battery.

When all of the above is taken together I would expect, if the rumoured dimensions are accurate, that the charge capacity of the next iPhone's battery will be at least equal to that of the current iPhone 4S and possibly even a tiny bit bigger. That then leaves us to see what other tweaks Apple might be able to make to the electronics to reduce their power consumption although, when looking at this final piece of the jigsaw, LTE and the bigger screen are the big unknowns since they, especially LTE, could have a detrimental effect on power draw.

- Julian (who also cares a lot about battery life)

 

[Rogifan]

I'm not surprised. This is a very good new technology that simply illustrates Apples commitment to quality components.

Of greater concern is the persistence rumor of a long & narrow phone. Besides adding a row of apps I see no benefit of any significance. If true, then it means that we're only getting another mildly updated phone, not Apples best work.

When a good company like Apple begins to rest on it's laurels, true decline is not far off. Argue to the contrary all you want, but the facts of business support it.

The only difference is that Apple being the behemoth they are, can coast for years selling warmed over products before true decline sets in.

What the heck does scree size have to do with the quality of a phone?

 

[Jimrod]

What's bull about the megapixel race ? More pixels means more details. Sure it's not the only measure of image quality for cameras or screens (sensor quality and size, aperture, LCD technology, viewing angles, color gamut, etc..)

At the end of the day, thinness or mega pixels are both specs. A device is a combination of specs and no one should be choosing based on a single spec, but on the whole of them. None are really "bull"

Some camera manufacturers are actually scaling down their megapixels in favour of larger sensors with fewer pixels for better quality (larger pixels can accept more light and produce less noise). Cramming as many pixels as possible onto a sensor isn't always the best way to go, sure you'll have a larger image but it doesn't mean it will be better! Nokia obviously don't believe this is the way to go with their new phone!


Edit: I started this reply before getting a phone call so it's been brought up already!

 

[samcraig]

I think it's a testament to apple that they are always putting innovation in their products. A lot of other companies just use industry norms for the innerds and the looks of their products. Apple's agenda might just be to be able to market it as the "thinnest phone ever", but they found an innovative way to make it that way.

Every company is putting innovation into their products. Let's not speak in hyperbole. And Apple will have to get behind Huawei for marketing the "thinnest phone ever" at 6.68 mm.

http://www.intomobile.com/2012/01/0...worlds-thinnest-dual-core-android-smartphone/

 

[Piggie]

I would love the consumer to be given the choice here.

iPhone 5 = 9mm thick = normal battery

iPhone 5 = 13mm thick (an extra 4mm) and double the life battery.

Juts to see which one people went for.
4mm thinner and half the battery or 4mm more.

 

[Rogifan]

It's gone, get use to having to reply to comments instead of hiding behind it. Now, what prompted this comment ? What do you disagree with and while you post to say you disagree, why not tell us why ?

You know... use the discussion forum to actually discuss ?

I'd rather be able to down vote a troll than have to respond to them.

 

[iSlave]

I don't give a **** about any of this.