inscrewtable
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That reminds me of Ali G's solution to mobile phones always running out of power: a mobile phone that...wait for it...is permanently plugged in to a wall socket. Why hasn't it been invented yet.
Next iPhone Will Reportedly Have "Global [4G] LTE Support"
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That reminds me of Ali G's solution to mobile phones always running out of power: a mobile phone that...wait for it...is permanently plugged in to a wall socket. Why hasn't it been invented yet.
Hey quick question. I live in AZ as well how is at& t in Phoenix? I have TMobile and want to switch to Verizon but at &t is 20 bucks cheaper. Do you get spotty coverage
I agree with Absent
To elaborate:
P = V x I
Power (measured in Watts) = Voltage (measured in Volts) x Current represented by the letter I (measured in Amperes (or just Amps))
So the new battery's capacity is 5.45Wh (Watt hours). The battery should therefore be able to sustain a power draw of 5.45W for a period of 1 hour, or a power draw of 1W of 5.45 hours, or any calculation that results in a total 5.45Wh (within the reasonable limits of real-world possibilities eg. the battery probably wouldn't be able to sustain a draw of 100W over 0.0545 hours (3 min 16sec) because the battery would very much likely MELT!!!)
Anywho, all you really need to know is that in increase in battery capacity of 0.15Wh is not much by any means (2.83%!!!) and is probably not even good enough to satisfy a reasonable expectation of year-on-year technology advancments in battery technology! I'm not an expert, but the increase in capacity will almost certainly be eaten up well and truly by the increased screen size's power draw, not to mention LTE's apparent hunger for power!!! (even if there is a newer LTE chip in place).
I agree with what you've said, in terms of the overall entire hypothese.
However, there are a few other things to consider.
(1) technology tends to advance year on. components tend to be more efficient now than before. Lower consumption - meaning the same battery capacity would last a bit longer with later components. [and lower consumption over extended time period, can increase the amount of power u can discharge from a battery (see note 3)]
(2) higher voltage(although not very high, case-in-point rumored iphone5 battery label) could also plays a part. (i would assume that apple would have thought it out such that it might run on a slightly higher voltage? with less conversions,etc. and perhaps incur less loss? - well it's all hypothetical)
(3) the battery draw with time that u mentioned earlier, varies. it's not fixed.
usual the figure given are in terms of longer time discharge with lower current.
meaning, the more amps u drain out in lesser time, the lower the power that can be discharged - despite saying it is a 5.45Wh. so in a way, draining out less amperage over extended period(with a slightly higher voltage) could sustain better battery life.
anyway, to me these figures are quite small, like u mentioned earlier.
undeniably though, like u have said too, it would be quite true that the lte component might be a huge power draw. perhaps (maybe) the component power draw with the other communication modules, might have equalized in the end.
im just hoping the label on the battery was just for show. and the new iphone would last way longer than 5hrs.
Again we have to debate about phone compatibility with other providers!
Top 3 U.S service providers to hate, Cable(TV)/Internet provider, and
Wireless Cell Phone provider.
They are just eating away your arms and legs each passing day (AT&T, Verizon...), while the rest of the world gets better. What's sad is that, even the third world country underdeveloped ones provides sim-swapping possible to any provider of your choice, better plan, lower rate, free incoming call/text and of course contract free.
Top 3 U.S service providers to hate, Cable(TV)/Internet provider, and
Wireless Cell Phone provider.
They are just eating away your arms and legs each passing day (AT&T, Verizon...), while the rest of the world gets better. What's sad is that, even the third world country underdeveloped ones provides sim-swapping possible to any provider of your choice, better plan, lower rate, free incoming call/text and of course contract free.
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Kinda like some android phones allready have nfc. Its like those makers are just checking off some spec sheet, not caring wether anyone will actually take advantage of the tech nor if it will drain your battery. I still kinda think Apple are early adaptors. LTE is still not availiable a lot of places.
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Grandpa1947
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Off topic but...
I personally know two people who have the new Galaxy S III and they are having trouble with them. The serious kind of trouble. Reboot frequently. Makes me wonder if this is a problem with many others.
I personally know two people who have the new Galaxy S III and they are having trouble with them. The serious kind of trouble. Reboot frequently. Makes me wonder if this is a problem with many others.
Nope.....works perfect, to get BOT has no LTE and the real life battery life for me is two to three days.
matrix07
macrumors G3
What's that Besoz said the other days? Oh.. Consumers are smart (because they didn't buy Android tablets) LOL.
What's so shocking about it? I easily get 5+ Mbps on O2 3G. I know this isn't as fast as '4G' etc, but really- it's plenty fast for a phone, even when I use it for tethering (smooth iplayer streaming etc). 4G would be 'nice' but normal consumers won't notice any difference between 3G and 4G in day to day use.
FoxMcCloud
macrumors 6502a
Tim Cook at the keynote:
"Since everyone knows about the next iPhone because of the leaks and the internet, we dont need to tell you anything except that it will be available worldwide in 30 days. So now we have more time to talk about Macs
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"Since everyone knows about the next iPhone because of the leaks and the internet, we dont need to tell you anything except that it will be available worldwide in 30 days. So now we have more time to talk about Macs
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hvfsl
macrumors 68000
T-mobile will on the 11th Sept.
Winni
macrumors 68040
Sounds very American to me.
By the way, you don't know yet how the next iPhone will fare, you're only giving it credit. Let's see if it deserves it. In the meantime, everybody is free to buy Apple's next year's technology today from the competition.
JoeSixPack
macrumors member
Because some people like streaming content on a very small screen
No, really we should just admit the truth. We're geeks. Speed for its own sake, even without a purpose, is just cool.
Res ipsa locquitor.
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LTE will only gain traction with the iPhone.
The same thing will happen with NFC, only when iPhone gets it will it become very popular. If ever.
Chlloret
macrumors 6502
Interesting. And witch Android Phone or Tablet suports global LTE at the moment?
Here in Japan there are quite a few phones that support it. I'm not sure if it's popular at all, but it's widely available. If it were cheap enough, I'd get it too.
Chlloret
macrumors 6502
Also for you the question, where is a Android Phone or tablet that works globally? Where can I buy next years tech today?
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Could you quote just one model? A phone that will work with LTE in Japan, Europe, Asia and the US? I can not find any, Google failed as well. But if they are widely available, there should be at least one model?
Also, it should make phonecalls possible. In Germany for instance they have a HTC Android phone with LTE (of course, it only works on one network and not outside Germany) but it can not make phonecalls. Not really practical for a PHONE.
Chlloret
macrumors 6502
You are so right. In the states, LTE is a must, but only there. Nobody in the rest of the world could care less.
Two weeks ago I was in Germany, they demoed a HTC LTE phone. Can not even make a call, as LTE is not yet prepared for voice. So, to make a call, it falls back to 3G, of course leaving the 4G running and that results in battery life below 5h (promised) so in reality around 3h.
Speeds of nearly 50Mbs where shown as long as the phone was in the headquarters of Vodafone in Germany, next to the transmitter and the only phone in the cell. Vodafone promises "up to" 20Mbs in practice, at least until more the a dozen people use the network. It is notreally for phones or tablets but for rural areas that should get fast internet conections.
Here in Barcelona I tested my iPad3 on the local 3G Network from Movistar and average 17.5 Mbs down and 4Mbs up. If I go up the coast to the north, that falls back to around 10Mbs down and 2 Mbts up. While using the device, there is no difference in the experience at all. One seriously must ask, what this LTE is good for. The money spend could have been used to improve the existing, working, tried and tested 3G Network.
If that's all they can come up with, Apple customers will be up for a huge disappointment - after all, LTE is just a marginal improvement over current 3G speeds, has very limited availability around the world and will remain as such for years to come. Moreover, this is not even a phone feature; it's just a network-related evolution available to all makers out there.
In my view, anything LESS than haptic-feedback screens, innovative content management framework and more storage in the iPhone 5 will constitute a pathetic downer.
Goldinboy17
macrumors 65816
Have you owned any Android LTE devices? You can't just bunch them all together and generalize. The HTC One X on AT&T get's phenomenal battery life (better than the current 4S under real world use).