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That means it'll work on T-Mobile's LTE network :D

If only Apple had allowed the iPhones up to now to use on 1700MHz, they'd be able to run on T-Mobile's HSPA+ too :/

Sorry to correct you.... T-Mobile is using 1900mhz 3G and Hspa+. 1700mhz is LTE-A.
 
So the chip hasn't even shipped yet, but the iPhone is set to ship in a few weeks and is expected to have this chip? That doesn't seem right to me.

I agree and immediately upon reading this article, thought the same thing. How is LTE possible in this iPhone if the chip hasn't even shipped yet? I would have thought Apple would be manufacturing millions of these things by now.
 
Technically their 3G standards are the same too. Both WCDMA.

AT&T and Verizon? UMTS/HSPA (AT&T 3G) is based on the WCDMA air interface, but CDMA/EVDO (Verizon 3G) is quit different.

Sorry to correct you.... T-Mobile is using 1900mhz 3G and Hspa+. 1700mhz is LTE-A.

Tmobile has been rolling out 1900 for 3G, but up until now they were exclusively using 1700/AWS.
 
I agree and immediately upon reading this article, thought the same thing. How is LTE possible in this iPhone if the chip hasn't even shipped yet? I would have thought Apple would be manufacturing millions of these things by now.

It's called "supply chain management". Of course apple bought up all the available initial supply for the iPhone 5 launch.
 
However, Apple was smart not to jump on the LTE bandwagon early. Battery life with those old chips was awful.

I just hope they've really addressed the battery issues inherent with LTE Android smartphones to-date.

As excited as the prospect of an LTE world iPhone makes me, I'll still be sticking with my iPhone 4 until I see real-world proof that the new iPhone can make it through a day of moderate to heavy use on LTE without having to be plugged in.
 
All I care is that it is optional. It will be an option, right? LTE is very different from HSPA+.
 
Apple has really no excuse not to have an lte iphone by now. The HTC one x had a 28nm lte chip back in april when it was released and was announced in february. Its also integrated onto the soc for even further power savings.
 
All I care is that it is optional. It will be an option, right? LTE is very different from HSPA+.

You mean like the ability to turn LTE on or off? If so that is an option on the iPad with LTE, so I'd assume the iPhone will be the same.
 
You mean like the ability to turn LTE on or off? If so that is an option on the iPad with LTE, so I'd assume the iPhone will be the same.

Yes. I don't want it to drain my battery. It seems almost sure that they would have an option, but you never know, Apple might screw up.
 
Do all US carriers offer simultaneous voice & data on 4G LTE? Only AT&T offer voice + data on their 3G network — which is the main reason I've stuck with them.
 
Yes. I don't want it to drain my battery. It seems almost sure that they would have an option, but you never know, Apple might screw up.

They could, but if they did it would be a colossal blunder. It doesn't make logical sense that you can turn LTE off on the iPad (which has a large battery) but couldn't turn it off on the new iPhone.
 
T-mobile already support and sell the iPhone on their network here in the UK. Like most folk here we want faster internet on our handsets and good battery but unfortunately we will have to compromise either faster browsing or less battery life to what were used too.
 
The big push for LTE, and faster data speeds, is simple; Cloud Computing, Streaming Video, Online Gaming, VoIP, Video Calling, and I could go on.

The problem lies as technology grows, the demand for faster speeds grows with it. Remember when 28.8 Kbps modems were around. No one ever complained, they loaded internet pages just fine and the local AOL chatroom. Then digital cameras took off, 56K was introduce, and webpages started hosting larger content (i.e. pics, small low quality videos; real player)

Now you have services like dropbox, while HSPA+ networks are sufficient to some degree, you have people like Apple, Google, Amazon, all pushing for "Cloud" computing.

I think you made a good point about "cloud" computing. That´s actually something that´s what is going to need LTE when everything is in the cloud sooner or later. I am all for faster speed because I always want the best, but when I started thinking about it I couldn´t actually see any benefits from the 3G speeds I am getting now. But when I start thinking about how the cloud is changing how we access data and how it will change in the future I see the benefits! Thanks.
 
Sacramento is listed as "Coming Soon" for AT&T LTE. They definitely got a late start on deployment. As far as current LTE coverage across the U.S., Verizon leads by a lot, AT&T is second, and Sprint is way behind. I think Sprint is only in six or seven markets at present.
Yeah just looked it up. It's funny because all these network carriers advertise the $h*£ out 4G yet the networks are usually in bigger cities. I'm guessing 4G won't be the norm as 3G is today until 1- 2 years from now
 
I'd be happier if roaming calling prices would come down and cross US/CAnada included in regular package.
 
Sorry to correct you.... T-Mobile is using 1900mhz 3G and Hspa+. 1700mhz is LTE-A.

Oops, you are correct :D

Buying an unlocked iPhone 5 will be a great investment :) I like iPhone, just not the prices of the nationwide networks it's currently locked to.
 
This is the first phone to offer global LTE right? Apple should file for that patent and get a competitive advantage over Samsung.

Too much hate in you. Don't you want other people to enjoy it too? That's what happens with fanboys, their mentality gets corrupted.
 
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So LTE is LTE is LTE? AT&T and Verizon are using the same technologies for LTE and the only difference is spectrum?

That's pretty cool and in theory should allow for greater mobility between carriers.

Sure, greater mobility after you pay the ETF to get the phone unlocked.
 
Its funny how LTE matters now, despite Android having it for a year and a half.

Didn't matter and was a battery waster until it's revealed on the next iPhone. Then it's - "well Apple waited until they could give enough battery juice to warrant LTE - my phone lasts wayyyyy longer than those Android phones" :rolleyes:
 
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