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Next iPhone Will Reportedly Have "Global [4G] LTE Support"

Mr. Milk said:
The news were about a phone, not an operating system. Do you know the difference?
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Seeing as iPhone is the only one running iOS, one could argue that they are almost one and the same.

I think what they meant was the high end Android phones in general are better in this regard, since so many of them support a wide variety of LTE.
 
Centralman said:
I thought this maybe the case due to the coincidence that Everything Everywhere (UK) Owner of Orange and T-Mobile the day before the Iphone event is releasing its LTE 4G network!

Should be interesting here in the UK!
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Its not a coincidence, it will be the first uk lte phone. I have spoken to ppl in the know.
 
dewski said:
well then 3g is all YOU need then where you are located. All 3g is not equal. over here in texas, 3g doesnt do much for you. i experience my slingbox cut out at least 3 times during my 30 minute lunch breaks.
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I am not trying to say that if 3G works for me, then it should work for everyone. What I am saying is that 3G technology can provide the user experience you are looking for. The problem is that you're not getting it. The grass is not always greener on the other side of the hill. If your carrier can't give you the quality of service 3G is suppose to give you, What makes you think LTE will be any better?

That's how I see it...
 
FuNGi said:
:) Amazingly informative and helpful post PulseDriver81. I look forward to meeting more people as nice as you in SE.

I will be based mostly in the far north (Umeå) and periodically travelling to Stockholm and possibly Lund area etc. So it sounds like Telia/Halebop or Telenor might be the best choices for the fastest speeds, 3 for the best battery life ;). I'll look into their pre-paid plans. I will be travelling out of the country allot so pre-paid is the only thing I want these days.
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:) glad to help! If you're going to be in Umeå, 90 % of the population there use Telia or halebop as you were thinking. I have friends that have Tele2 over there and they say it works in the city, but not when you movie right outside the "borders". If you're going to be in Stockholm I would say the best carrier is 3. But if you are going to travel in between umea and Stockholm by train the best overall carrier for you will be Telia/halebop. Don't count on any other carrier than Telia to have good coverage in between those cities.

Good luck to you! I hope you will have a nice visit here!
 
RoboCop001 said:
Seeing as iPhone is the only one running iOS, one could argue that they are almost one and the same.

I think what they meant was the high end Android phones in general are better in this regard, since so many of them support a wide variety of LTE.
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But they do not. There is no Android phone out there that supports LTE globally. No matter how often it is implied and no matter how fantastic these high end Android devices are soposed to be, in reality they do not deliver.
 
smithy12 said:
To all UK residents please read full post ....t-mobile will have 4G next week , so we will be part of the 'new' revolution if you go with t-mobile or orange.
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No, T-Moible/Orange (Everything everywhere) are releasing a 3rd network which will be their 4g service which will have access to T-Mobile/Orange's 3g network when a 4g signal cannot be provided.
 
pittpanthersfan said:
GSM to CDMA?
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No issues there as LTE SIM cards authenticate CDMA like GSM does. Other than normal CDMA limitations such as call waiting handling, CDMA will behave exactly like GSM. No more activating phones etc, just insert the SIM.

(Verizon uses the C-SIM application on the SIM card, formerly known as R-UIM... in LTE phones, though I think sprint will have to do the same now (Apple will not make a special phone just for sprint with an embedded SIM), as of right now they use embedded SIM cards, even in GSM phones like the Photon Q)

Pretty much it means Verizon and Sprint will activate like AT&T and t-mobile does now, all on the SIM card, thanks to having LTE
 
Pulsedriver81 said:
I am not trying to say that if 3G works for me, then it should work for everyone. What I am saying is that 3G technology can provide the user experience you are looking for. The problem is that you're not getting it. The grass is not always greener on the other side of the hill. If your carrier can't give you the quality of service 3G is suppose to give you, What makes you think LTE will be any better?

That's how I see it...
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You are right. Average speed with LTE mobile in Germany 14,6 Mb/s. average speed 3G in Germany 10,6 Mb/s. top speed in Germany LTE mobile 20 Mb/s, top speed 3G 22Mb/s.

Here in Spain 3G averages for me with 10Mb/s and that is faster then my Home DSL Line that sometimes tops 8Mb/s

Nobody is craving LTE here. more money, less battery for what?
 
Chrisg2014 said:
You sir, are what is wrong with the world today...
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Fortunately, patent law has changed in the USA recently to make this "obvious". If I have technology to use LTE in the USA, and technology to use LTE in Australia, and technology to use LTE in the UK, then combining all these technologies is "obvious" and not patentable (unless the outcome is unexpected - but working in all the places would be expected).

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Abazigal said:
Just curious, how might lte be implemented on an iphone to minimise battery drain? Earlier android phones were not able to avoid this, what exactly is the reason behind this? :confused:
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Biggest battery drain is searching for a network connection. So if you have borderline LTE reception, you lose the reception for a short time, phone searches for LTE, finds it, uses it for two seconds, loses reception, and so on, that is awful for the battery. Staying on 3G all the time would be much better for batteries and nearly as fast. You'd get the same effect in an area where 3G is borderline, and staying on slow 2G would be more energy efficient. It's just that now fewer areas have borderline 3G reception.

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JoeSixPack said:
Because some people like streaming content on a very small screen :confused:
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1920 x 1200 on an iPhone. At least :D
 
Although marketed as a 4G wireless service, LTE as specified in the 3GPP Release 8 and 9 document series does not satisfy the technical requirements the 3GPP consortium has adopted for its new standard generation, and which were originally set forth by the ITU-R organization in its IMT-Advanced specification. However due to marketing pressures and the significant advancements that WIMAX, HSPA+ and LTE bring to the original 3G technologies, ITU later decided that LTE together with the aforementioned technologies can be called 4G technologies. [6] The LTE Advanced standard formally satisfies the ITU-R requirements to be considered IMT-Advanced.[7] and to differentiate LTE-Advanced and Wimax-Advanced from current 4G technologies, ITU has defined them as "True 4G".[8][9]
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Still, it's like the USB 2.0 thing back in the days, where only 2.0 Hi-Speed matched the term and everything else was just marketing. LTE as it is right now is technically still in the 3.9G bracket, and we have to wait for LTE-Advanced to have a neat new speed generation.

I'd rather wait 2-4 years, stay with 3G and have a finely-tuned 4G chip (with actual battery performance, as a user sees it) and network coverage than both a crippled chip and network to always have me worry standing in an appropriate spot and town. No network already provides the LTE coverage and performance it does with 3G/EDGE. Let them take their time. ;)
 
clibinarius said:
When I was in Sweden I was using prepaid 3.
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I was just in Sweden and my wife has an iPhone. From everything I could find, there are prepaid plans but they all seem to have dreadfully slow data speeds. Also, most, if not all, of the providers restrict VoIP from the iPhone. Make sure you read the fine print when it comes to VoIP. My wife used Comviq for 199SEK. She had some problems sending texts to non-iPhones, but iMessage works fine, even to US.
 
FuNGi said:
Thanks again. What is it you mean by "coverage speech" exactly?
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The carriers don't yet provide 4G for voice. That means you can't make a phone call over 4G. Which means there's a difference in coverage for speech (voice gsm/3G) and for data usage (gsm/3G/4G). I hope that answered your question.
 
Dudes, I'm taking bets on the name of this new iPhone. There is no new radical design and real 4G is in it. Thus ...

iPhone 4, totally new hardware design
iPhone 4S, a board upgrade, no new case design
iPhone 4G, new connector that takes Thunderbolt, taller and real 4G

We are not going to see "iPhone 5" for at least two years since I'm sure that is in Johnny Ive land going all over the place right now.
 
Chlloret said:
You are right. Average speed with LTE mobile in Germany 14,6 Mb/s. average speed 3G in Germany 10,6 Mb/s. top speed in Germany LTE mobile 20 Mb/s, top speed 3G 22Mb/s.

Here in Spain 3G averages for me with 10Mb/s and that is faster then my Home DSL Line that sometimes tops 8Mb/s

Nobody is craving LTE here. more money, less battery for what?
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Are we in rewind one year back? Why do you still post this utter nonsense.

LTE is 100 MBit/s downstream LIVE on T-Mobile (just rechecked as you can order this bandwith with a LTE data tarif and a subsidized Galaxy Tab LTE) and 50 MBit/s downstram LIVE on Vodafone (premium LTE-plan available, the regular is 22 MBit/s).

LTE IS LIVE in several big cities in Germany with this speed. Go recheck your facts before playing mobile expert. Helpful Link - and yes, you can only look for 1800 MHz-LTE
 
swagi said:
Are we in rewind one year back? Why do you still post this utter nonsense.

LTE is 100 MBit/s downstream LIVE on T-Mobile (just rechecked as you can order this bandwith with a LTE data tarif and a subsidized Galaxy Tab LTE) and 50 MBit/s downstram LIVE on Vodafone (premium LTE-plan available, the regular is 22 MBit/s).

LTE IS LIVE in several big cities in Germany with this speed. Go recheck your facts before playing mobile expert. Helpful Link - and yes, you can only look for 1800 MHz-LTE
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How's the view up on that horse?

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Pulsedriver81 said:
The carriers don't yet provide 4G for voice. That means you can't make a phone call over 4G. Which means there's a difference in coverage for speech (voice gsm/3G) and for data usage (gsm/3G/4G). I hope that answered your question.
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OK thanks! Yes I understand now.
 
Blorzoga said:
I was just in Sweden and my wife has an iPhone. From everything I could find, there are prepaid plans but they all seem to have dreadfully slow data speeds. Also, most, if not all, of the providers restrict VoIP from the iPhone. Make sure you read the fine print when it comes to VoIP. My wife used Comviq for 199SEK. She had some problems sending texts to non-iPhones, but iMessage works fine, even to US.
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That's partly true...
Telia is the only carrier that actually restricts VoIP over its network. The other ones say that it is not included in the plan, but they don't do anything about it.
Telia offers VoIP in their most expensive plans though.

Comviq is cheap, but as I said before,you get bad coverage and slow speeds on most places. Me myself would never use comviq or Tele2 which is basically the same company. Like Telia/halebop. You get the best speeds with 3, no question about it. That's what I recommend people here in Sweden, Stockholm. I get about 6-8 mbit average on my iPhone 4s. My plan limits my max speed to 10 mbit. I think that is good enough.

But I can't recommend a person who is going to stay up north to use anything else than Telia/halebop, because of bad coverage there. Trust me on this.
Like I said before, as long as you are in the city ( no matter what city) 3 is the best carrier, but as long as you travel in between cities, Telia is by far the best carrier.

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nick_elt said:
Its not a coincidence, it will be the first uk lte phone. I have spoken to ppl in the know.
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Yeah. It's looking like it'll work on Orange/T-Mobile's 1800Mhz LTE for sure. But whether it'll work on the 800Mhz LTE due to roll out next year in the UK is another question...
 
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