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If it's white bezel then I'd probably have to go with the pro............. Even though their power would probably be wasted on me......
 
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Two different industries.....

Technology is always more lax when it comes to "corporate environment" (startups too).

Go to any other industry and....
Agreed. I just haven't seen very many people sporting bright pink, mint green, or sunny yellow laptops in the office and business environment. Also, in my experience, IT departments tend to buy conventional traditional colors so they don't have to anticipate, stock, and manage employees' color preferences.

But hey, maybe the work world is changing. Perhaps, there are tons of people in the corporate world using hot pink laptops with Hello Kitty decals on the back. But, I doubt it. I suspect that the overwhelming majority of corporate laptops are black, grey or silver.

The only reason I care about any of this is that I would like to see the MBA continue to have a strong presence in the business world. This will push Apple to maintain the platform and ensure that it remains capable. Anyway, I am sure Apple will provide a "traditional" (i.e., silver to go with the white bezels) color option, since they have done so in the past and it is in their interest to do so.
 
Agreed. I just haven't seen very many people sporting bright pink, mint green, or sunny yellow laptops in the office and business environment. Also, in my experience, IT departments tend to buy conventional traditional colors so they don't have to anticipate, stock, and manage employees' color preferences.

Ah, yes, IT departments. As Dilbert said, “the preventers of technology”.

The only reason I care about any of this is that I would like to see the MBA continue to have a strong presence in the business world. This will push Apple to maintain the platform and ensure that it remains capable. Anyway, I am sure Apple will provide a "traditional" (i.e., silver to go with the white bezels) color option, since they have done so in the past and it is in their interest to do so.

I was going to make a snarky comment about MBAs, but then I realized you meant MacBook Airs rather than worthless business degrees. :)

Are you aware that white is one of the most common office colors today? The traditional gray/beige is on the way out.
 
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I was going to make a snarky comment about MBAs, but then I realized you meant MacBook Airs rather than worthless business degrees. :)
Absolutely, "worthless" business degrees. Here are just a few ne'er-do-wells that earned MBAs:

Tim Cook
Colin Powell
Mary Barra (CEO GM)
 
Anyway, I am sure Apple will provide a "traditional" (i.e., silver to go with the white bezels) color option, since they have done so in the past and it is in their interest to do so.
If they do go the colorful route, yes, they’ll have a silver option just as the 24” iMacs do. Our company colors are teal and gray. If Apple somehow were to sell one in teal, I don’t think it’s out of the question.
 
Think of it as a Union Card (similar to a PhD for College Professors).
Well, of course, my point was that it is kind of dismissive for the poster I was replying to calling an MBA or business degree "worthless". So, I was pointing out that there are certainly some pretty accomplished folks that have gone that route and probably found it worthwhile.

It is like many things in life, you get from it what you put into it. My undergrad was engineering, and I got an MBA (in the evening while working full-time) because my job started to involve more financial analysis and decision making. I found the program useful and worthwhile. Could I have done the job without an MBA? Sure. But, it definitely broadened my understanding of the business decisions our organization was facing, so it helped me do a better job.

Back to the new MacBook Air: It is been about 4 years since the last redesign, so next year is about time for a new one. Just be prepared for a couple hundred dollar price bump, which is common when they launch a new model. And, I really don't have a problem with the rumored design and colors, as long as Apple offers at least one options that is kind of neutral/traditional (e.g. silver), which they will undoubtably do.

I think it also raises another interesting question; what will happen to the current MBA model? There is a fair chance that Apple will continue to offer it as a lower priced option for people that like the old wedge design. In fact, it might fit perfectly into their "SE" lineup:

SE line-up: traditional design and lower price: GOOD
iPhone SE = $399
iPad SE (iPad 9th gen) = $329
Watch SE = $279
MacBook SE (2020 M1 MBA) = $899? or add the new M2 chip and keep it at $999

Air line-up: newer design language and medium price: BETTER
iPhone 13 mini/iPhone 13 = $700/$800
iPad Air 4 = $599
new MacBook Air 14in = $1,199
Watch 7 = $399

Pro line-up: latest design and technology at highest price: BEST
iPhone Pro/Pro Max: $999/$1099
iPad Pro 11/12.9: $799/$1099
MacBook Pro 14/16: $2000/$2500
 
The EU (European Union) is not the same as the USA. They are a Union of many different Countries, governments, cultures, and economic levels.

Their education systems don't fall under the EU (think USA Federal), they regulate country by country.

Each country has different wants/needs for their population. (some countries are Hella rich in the EU, while some not so fortunate).

I'd be extremely impressed if the "European education market" would be full of any one thing.

The Chromebook not being popular anywhere in Europe is quite surprising to me, I'll have to look into that.

Also, some countries in Europe, the word College is what they use for High-school.

When they say University, its exactly that. Moving forward you'll notice that most (if not all Europeans) will say University and never College.

(Examples: I am in/at university. When I was in/at University. I am going to University)
Here in the Netherlands, Chromebooks are very common in schools, from elementary through high schools
 
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Why tf many people bashing about the white bezel??

Not too long ago about everybody in the school had the white MacBook and I never heard any complain ever about the color of the bezel.

Why now it is not ok?

And is off white really that different from aluminium bezel that about 50 millions MBA have?
I appreciate the differentiation between the white and black. Black will stand out as 'pro' while white is more 'consumer' and 'education' oriented. Like the good ol days.
 

USB-C Ports Only, MagSafe


This is a contradiction. Which is it, USB-C only? Or does it have MagSafe?

Personally I would much prefer NO MagSafe! USB-C ports are much more versatile and you don't need Apple's £49 proprietary MagSafe cable.
 
This is a contradiction. Which is it, USB-C only? Or does it have MagSafe?

Personally I would much prefer NO MagSafe! USB-C ports are much more versatile and you don't need Apple's £49 proprietary MagSafe cable.
It obviously means USB as the only input/outputs, as opposed to the SD card reader and HDMI port that are now on the Pro models.
 
Suspect we're stuck with two on the Airs, especially if they're using MagSafe.
You are likely right. I'd like three so that I can use an external monitor (mine supports USB-C directly - and will charge whatever is connected), and a hard drive (e.g. an external SSD for Time Machine) and the freedom to do something else (phone, camera, USB stick, scanner, etc.) - simultaneously.

I'd live with two. Plus MagSafe for charging.
 
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You are likely right. I'd like three so that I can use an external monitor (mine supports USB-C directly - and will charge whatever is connected), and a hard drive (e.g. an external SSD for Time Machine) and the freedom to do something else (phone, camera, USB stick, scanner, etc.) - simultaneously.

I'd live with two. Plus MagSafe for charging.
Wouldn't a USB hub work well for your needs?
 
You are likely right. I'd like three so that I can use an external monitor (mine supports USB-C directly - and will charge whatever is connected), and a hard drive (e.g. an external SSD for Time Machine) and the freedom to do something else (phone, camera, USB stick, scanner, etc.) - simultaneously.

I'd live with two. Plus MagSafe for charging.
I saw a YT video where his monitor (albeit extremely high end) had a built in hub for his peripherals.

It charged his MacBook Air, connected to his SSD, and was an external display all with just a thunderbolt 3 connection.

I've been on the lookout for an affordable version. If anyone knows any affordable models that support those features I would greatly appreciate it. (24" - 27" size with 2k-4k res higher hz is nice)
 
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No. I'd be wary of expecting a USB hub to cope with charging and display on one connection whilst also managing data transfers on others. And I don't want to have to pay for a hub and carry it around with me.
There are many which have proven to do that well. I mentioned hubs based on what you said you wanted to drive, are you bringing your external display and scanner with you?
 
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This is a contradiction. Which is it, USB-C only? Or does it have MagSafe?

Personally I would much prefer NO MagSafe! USB-C ports are much more versatile and you don't need Apple's £49 proprietary MagSafe cable.
Having my new M1 Max MBP, I can say that I'm glad to have MagSafe back! It's just extra peace of mind knowing that if someone happens to step on or trip over my cord it's not going to yank the MacBook off the table or damage a connector. I can still charge via the Thunderbolt ports if I want. The new power adapter is a USB-C/Thunderbolt power adapter so it can use a USB-C cord if you want. The included cord is the USB-C to MagSafe that's 2m in length.

I expect the new MacBook [Air] to also use MagSafe. Probably new iPads too.
 
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