Other benefits include a better Intel integrated graphics solution (x4500) and support for DisplayPort technology. I think that Apple will be releasing new Cinema Displays with the new DisplayPort connector (and probably also DVI for backwards compatibility) between April and June. I wonder if the Dell 2408 which is also supposed to include a DisplayPort connector will be released at about the same time.
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Next MacBook and MacBook Pro Updates in June?
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Other benefits include a better Intel integrated graphics solution (x4500) and support for DisplayPort technology. I think that Apple will be releasing new Cinema Displays with the new DisplayPort connector (and probably also DVI for backwards compatibility) between April and June. I wonder if the Dell 2408 which is also supposed to include a DisplayPort connector will be released at about the same time.
This might surprised you.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/dells-24-inch-2408wfp-monitor-with-displayport-and-everything/
Look at those inputs!
I've definitely made, and seen, significant (and realistic) changes that probably won't come until a case redesign:
1) Easily swappable hard drive. The way the case is designed now, simply adding an access door in the current drive location would compromise structural integrity (i.e. case stiffness). So, probably not a minor redesign.
2) eSATA port. Maybe a minor redesign, maybe not. (And, no, the existence of the expressCard 34 slot isn't sufficient - one can't boot from a drive connected via an eSATA expressCard, and there are ongoing compatibility issues - a native eSATA port would be great for high-performance computing on the road).
Any of you who want these things (or something else), don't just complain here, go to the Apple feedback page and ask for it!
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbookpro.html
It looks nice but why just 2 USB ports, and no FW? I know that the PC world hasn't adopted FW as much as Apple and other but WTF?
I love the plethora of ports and all, but but USB can only get you so far, and it would have been nice to see the design of their new 30" carried over into this one.
It's a garbage design... not that it's not a nice piece of work from the artist and their abilities to master which ever app they used to design it, but it's not a very practical or eye catching computer design.
It would be a great kiosk or flashy/weird tourist attraction, but not a computer, and not something that would sit on someone's desk. If it WERE going to be an iMac it would be an unbearable machine to use and look at.
I would generally agree with this statement, but this information is useful for some people like myself. I am looking to upgrade my entire setup - computer and monitor - and am awaiting an update to the ACDs to see if I will decide to purchase the laptop and ACD with the same AppleCare. If ACDs are released in late April or sometime in May, then I may wait until June to see if there will also be another revision to the MBP, something which I think is highly probable considering the technological proximity of the MB to the MBP at the moment.
Capitalization,
Grammar,
Syntax,
Spelling,
Punctuation.... about the only thing that's right.
They are rumored to be, they need to change the design to stay fresh, so yes, it might change with the next update.
p.s. There is nothing wrong with typing words out and spelling them correctly.
yeah i'd wait on getting a macbook pro if you are wanting to upgrade as apple is knowning to changing and updating their stuff at about every 6 months or so
This is blasphemy, this is madness, this ... THIS! is not worth me thinking about. why look to the future when i can buy a used machine from the past for 1/2 the price and 9/10s the power. and recycle
No one who posts on this site knows. There are those who hope for a redesign sometime between June and September and others who are very happy with the current design.
However, I imagine that MR or some other site will post at the first hint. Buy now or do what I'm doing ... obsessively check everyday ... lol
History shows us that Apple do not immediately install the latest chip etc. in their machines. It will be late July/Aug at the earliest, and even then there's no logical reason why they should do a redesign. Mind you, I am one of those who ARE definitely waiting for the redesign, and a 12/13 inch MBP would make a lot of sense.
Not anymore it wouldn't. I thought that's what was coming at MSWF 08, but they intro'd the MBA instead.
I really hoped we'd see something like the LG P300, but instead Apple went nuts on form over function.
Can you really see Apple offering the 13" MacBook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro as well?
Don't take it so hard. It's not the work itself, it's the way it's presented. You can't just make the entire computer curved and put a monitor on the back side and add this and add that because it looks cool or because the entire design is focused on one aspect.
I did see and read about the NEC 42" curved display, but for all practical reasoning it's not that great of a monitor or design, even for photographers. For the average consumer, a curved iMac just sitting on the desk like some brick of a machine won't sell that well, especially given where the iMac has come from (Bondi Blue) to where it is now (thin monitor on a stand). Then you have to take into account that it's going to be a hard thing to tilt or swivel, and to even pull out of the box.
All I am saying is consider some things when designing a machine, even if it's for fun. Also, don't take criticism that hard, I do apologize for the word that I used.... I tend to be harsher with mockup artists because they usually design things based on what THEY feel will be COOL and SWEET and not what works at all. Think about why current designs on both the Mac and PC world work, then take those concepts and improve on them, and at the same time fix what may be wrong.... and while doing all of that.... remember that it must be profitable for the company... that's engineering.
p.s. I was training to be an engineer for 3 years before switching to Comm Studies... we had to think about that stuff ALL DAY LONG and it drove me nuts.
Not anymore it wouldn't. I thought that's what was coming at MSWF 08, but they intro'd the MBA instead.
I really hoped we'd see something like the LG P300, but instead Apple went nuts on form over function.
Can you really see Apple offering the 13" MacBook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro as well?
I agree.... the Air kinda seals the deal for 12" PB owners and 12"/13" MBP wanters. There is no way Apple is going to put three versions of the same laptop on the market and only offer a slight increase to what each of them offer. It would be nice to have a 13" book with dedicated GFX but if that's going to be the only benefit then many may not see it as worth the price and that price would be around the same as the Air or the BlackBook..... it's tight already....
I have come to grips with the Air since I held it and felt it's far superior construction compared to the other machines. And every time my fiancee says she wants one, and I remember that she already has the 24" iMac, I see what market that book was made for.
Goodbye 12" PB and functionality in a small laptop.... we will miss you.
It may be that the part of liberty that has to do with grammar perished on September 11, 2001.
Well, it's a theory...
I didn't take it that "hard" - it wasn't my design. lol However, your reaction this time was thoughtful as well as critical.
Apple has been and is still consistently criticized for allowing form to dominate over function - from before the Clamshell to the current MBA. Jonathan Ive and his team have consistently pushed the boundries of tech design, not just by following up what has been successful but by going beyond what is conceived by other companies - and yes - us, the consumer. The design I posted was a link from the NYT tech section that I thought continued in that tradition.
I read many of the reactions to the MBA on MR when first announced and most were not positive. When I went to see it (and hold it) in person I felt I was holding the beginning of the next generation of laptops. Although I'm waiting for the MBP of this generation, I just convinced my parents to purchase an MBA - absolutely perfect for them as they travel all the time and the most difficult computer task they do is light PS with non RAW files.
Yeah... I read the page this time and even the poster there said that it wasn't practical. I think Ives has been pushing the boundaries of tech design, I must say that even though many of the Apple products out there may not meet a lot of user's functions, they have been the best looking, and easiest to use devices I have ever seen, especially Apple TV. Anyone that has ever hooked up an entertainment system cry at ATV's simplicity when paired with an HDTV. Same with the iPhone. I use Word Mobile a lot, and EDGE is a retarded network, but the UI and integration with Mac OS X is unmatched, and holding the phone and using it is far superior to 99% of the phones on the market.
I do hope that Apple does inch their way back to function and form though. I miss the days of not making sacrifices to own an Apple product, and those few that remain functional may start to dwindle away.
Even my posts of the thing were negative, and if I was looking for a small and light full featured notebook the Sony TZ would still be king. The tiny keyboard and screen aren't that bad to use. But the Air in itself was made for different reasons, and once you feel the book in your hands (especially if you are coming from a flimsy MBP) then you may appreciate it a lot more.
The construction is amazing, and the design of it is cleaner than any notebook out there, albeit that may be from a lack of ports. I hope that the MBPs do get a lot of design cues from the MBA, but I have a feeling the MBP will get an entirely new design, which it needs. As far as desktop replacements go, the 17" MBP is not even close. It's more of a larger 15" book with an extra USB port. Part of the reason for that is Apple's decision that people want a "light" 17" book, and the other reason is the limited design.
If Apple does change the design, hopefully they will make the 17" MBP a powerhouse of a laptop.
This is what I'm waiting to buy ... but, I would like my cake and eat it too - lighter slimmer form, better keyboard, magnetic latch, larger track pad, etc..
I was ready to buy for this past update but the current MBP just wasn't what I was looking for - especially after seeing the design of the MBA. As you mentioned, so solidly built. And so I wait once again.
Now I just need to decide whether I want to buy on a "tick" or a "tock". I would wait for Nehalem, but truthfully I'm a little worried about buying such a "tock" due to all the overheating issues that seem to plague the MBP right after big updates like that. I might just stick with this nice little "tick" in June; I know the technology works and that it won't melt my computer
Same here but I need a would like a new computer soon. I am fine with my current 2.16 MBP but it's chugging along with HDD space and processor speeds. I have the opportunity to grab a new 17" now, and make some trades of my current computer and another computer that I have in the shadows so I am going to take this current model now, with hopes that the next model will be a true performer, with a new design and state-of-the-art hardware (check the signature) and that I am able to see a worthy difference. Since I am not going to pay that much for my new model, I might be able to swap it out for a new one if it's a reasonable update.
The main things I want on the 17":
- Magnetic latch
- Dual 2.8GHz chip
- More FW ports or S3200
DS - VERY off topic, but since you're in the photo world I thought I would ask. My almost ancient and already once rebuilt Epson 1270 is finally going to meet its maker. And so I'm shopping for a new printer. Although the 2400 seems a natural, I know I'm not going to want to manually switch black inks every time I print from matte to glossy. I have heard (hear we go again) that the 2500 will come out soon, and when it does it might address this issue. Without the 2500 released I am thinking of the R1900 which has already solved this issue but is a slight step down in the line. Thought I would take advantage of your opinion on this if you would be so kind. Thanks.
I don't know much about printer specifics since I outsource all my printing, but i would either (as we have done) wait for the 2500 since it's what you really need, or step down to the 1900 if you need it NOW.
It took me forever to get a workflow and editing method to work with the Kodak printing that Apple does, and the Fuji that Ritz Camera does; I don't worry about it too much because many of my clients don't ask for prints. I do want to get a printer of my own in a year or two though.
If there isn't too many features missing from the 1900 and you need a printer now, go for the 1900. If it's too big of a compromise then wait for the 2400. I love Epson myself and probably won't change, but you could always try looking at HP.
That, or the same size.