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Next MacBook and MacBook Pro Updates in June?

nhaque said:
oh sorry i overlooked that, from wat you wrote (dont think i understand it fully) can i safely assume that the revision in June would be nothing more than just a slight increase in speed and battery, in other words, I should just buy one now..right
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I would yes.

But the thing is if Atheros comes up with a WiMAX/802.11n adapter, or Apple decides to use new 5xxx series Intel Wireless adapters that'll be bad luck for you. ( I'm assuming WiMAX will be a good use for you ) But you can always buy an Expresscard WiMAX adapter later.

The other thing is abour RAM. Since there are no DDR3 SO-DIMMs yet, I cannot predict the battery savings using newer tech. RAM.

And of course higher resolution screens woud be nice to see, but noone knows if that's going to happen.

All I'm sure is that the Montvina MBP's performance will be very similar to current SR MBPs.
 
if montevina performance excel the current only at wimax, i wouldnt mind buying now. thanx for clearing it up for me, gotta ready my cash now : )
 
Hi all,

I like many others am currently deciding whether to upgrade now or wait to see what June brings.

Just for reference I am currently running a 1.67GHz Powerbook G4.

This is my take on things -

I believe Apple will refresh the MacBook Pro line around June although my personal belief based on past experience is that the date will actually be in July, (however the week by week rumours will begin in June)

This is approximately 5 months from now.

It would seem like this update is the ideal time to give the MacBook Pro a face lift, as the new Intel 'Montevina' platform will require a re-designed Motherboard, where as past updates have just involved replacing individual components such as the CPU etc. Also the current MacBook Pro feels slightly out of place in the current MAC product portfolio considering both the MacBook and MacBook Air both sport similar styles (Keyboards etc). Therefore to unite the product lines I would expect to see the new MacBook Pro still have the aluminium shell but incorporate the subtle lines of the MacBook Air and use the same keyboard type. I don’t however expect to see a revolution of the product in terms of a radical new look, think more evolution.

In terms of performance the Intel 'Montevina' platform brings several new features such as –

Support for 1066MHz FSB CPU’s
New Intel Graphics Technology (Intel's GMA X4500).
DDR3 Support up to 800MHz.
Robson 2 (Intel Turbo-Cache)
WiMAX Adaptor

However I don’t expect Apple to utilise all of these features. For example Apple generally does not use the Intel provided Graphics or Network Interface Cards and Robson 2 is not supported by OS X. Therefore the real performance boosts seem to come from 1066 FSB Support and DDR3 RAM which together should provide a healthy performance increase as well as potentially improve battery life.

Therefore to me I feel the performance increase will not be worth the wait and any new features such as WiMAX support if they are offered by Apple can be achieved via add-ons, however if you love the new MacBook Air look and wish the MacBook Pro looked similar then maybe its worth hanging on.

I for one would feel quite comfortable buying the current MacBook Pro right now. Which is exactly what I thin I might just do.
 
All complaining...

It is my first post here and I do not want to be a pain... in the neck for anyone. But please, stop complaining about who complains.

Maybe Apple price policy was `correct' when using the old architecture, now it is simple ridiculous. That is the reason for all those people complaining about the upgrades, asking for advice.

It is obvious that if someone needs a computer then he should buy it without thinking that it will be outdated in few months. But not everyone needs a computer when buying it. Maybe he just needs a faster one or... simply wants to upgrade his hardware.

Mac and PC have become exactly the same except for the price policies chosen by the manufacturers. If I go to any pc shop and see a wonderful but expensive notebook I like, I can just wait a couple of months and buy it. Will it be old? Who cares, I saved money...

In the PC market prices drop with hw age, in the Apple market they do not. That's why everyone is asking whether or not they should buy now: they obviously do not need a new computer right now but wouldn't want to buy something with ZERO value after the next update.

-- thistl
 
lordthistle said:
It is my first post here and I do not want to be a pain... in the neck for anyone. But please, stop complaining about who complains.

Maybe Apple price policy was `correct' when using the old architecture, now it is simple ridiculous. That is the reason for all those people complaining about the upgrades, asking for advice.

It is obvious that if someone needs a computer then he should buy it without thinking that it will be outdated in few months. But not everyone needs a computer when buying it. Maybe he just needs a faster one or... simply wants to upgrade his hardware.

Mac and PC have become exactly the same except for the price policies chosen by the manufacturers. If I go to any pc shop and see a wonderful but expensive notebook I like, I can just wait a couple of months and buy it. Will it be old? Who cares, I saved money...

In the PC market prices drop with hw age, in the Apple market they do not. That's why everyone is asking whether or not they should buy now: they obviously do not need a new computer right now but wouldn't want to buy something with ZERO value after the next update.

-- thistl
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The differnce btw Apple and PC is.... Well Apple doesn't suck. I , like many have had my computer for over 5 years and have had little to no problem My family comp, which is a PC is 4 years and is going to explode the next Norton check it does. No one is complaining really, it is more, should I spend my money now, or will it be wasted if a better chip comes out. In all reality these new update, to me, will not be so drastic where I am going to be kicking my self in the ass. I wanted to buy now, I trust apple and know my new MBP will last me until I have a family....I'm 22 on record...
 
lordthistle said:
It is my first post here and I do not want to be a pain... in the neck for anyone. But please, stop complaining about who complains.

Maybe Apple price policy was `correct' when using the old architecture, now it is simple ridiculous. That is the reason for all those people complaining about the upgrades, asking for advice.

It is obvious that if someone needs a computer then he should buy it without thinking that it will be outdated in few months. But not everyone needs a computer when buying it. Maybe he just needs a faster one or... simply wants to upgrade his hardware.

Mac and PC have become exactly the same except for the price policies chosen by the manufacturers. If I go to any pc shop and see a wonderful but expensive notebook I like, I can just wait a couple of months and buy it. Will it be old? Who cares, I saved money...

In the PC market prices drop with hw age, in the Apple market they do not. That's why everyone is asking whether or not they should buy now: they obviously do not need a new computer right now but wouldn't want to buy something with ZERO value after the next update.

-- thistl
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I think the problem really lies with people not knowing where and when to shop. Once people understand how Apple works, then there won't be much of a headache. I too wish that Apple would just lower their prices for older machines, but after a machine has been on the market for 4 months or so, I hit the refurbished page, Craigslist, and my local (non-Apple) stores for rebates and deals that Apple may not give.

Most people that DO ask questions like: "which one" "how much should I pay" "is this worth it" etc. are just young in terms of shopping for electronics. I won't get mad at them or complain, but I won't me of much help to them if their (very annoying) posts say:

"which is bettr th 2.5MHz Mac or the 2.4mhZ mac

cheers"

There are a million threads like this and it's a pain try to help them because they barely know what to ask, and how to type it. So I just ignore them.

p.s. After an update comes, the previous model doesn't have zero value, not even in the PC market. That's the best time to get the refurbs and deals if the update didn't impress you. Santa Rosa was a let down, but the previous model price drop that happened everywhere was very welcomed. I am sure people that don't have the cash or justification for Penryn are buying up refurbed SR MacBooks and MBPs right now. I may look for a SR MacBook myself.
 
25th anniversary Mac

2009 will be the year that the Mac turns 25. What a wonderful way to commemorate that anniversary than by revamping the entire Mac line with Nehalem CPUs, chips from the Calpella chipset, and Mac OS 10.6, all in time for WWDC 2009.
 
jbh001 said:
2009 will be the year that the Mac turns 25. What a wonderful way to commemorate that anniversary than by revamping the entire Mac line with Nehalem CPUs, chips from the Calpella chipset, and Mac OS 10.6, all in time for WWDC 2009.
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That would be awesome. But what about Mac OS 10.6? Ready for June? It would mean Leopard would only have been out for not even two years?? It's an awesome idea but it sounds a bit unlikely...:(
 
mogzieee said:
That would be awesome. But what about Mac OS 10.6? Ready for June? It would mean Leopard would only have been out for not even two years?? It's an awesome idea but it sounds a bit unlikely...:(
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Hmm, according to Wiki OS X versions didn't last much more than 18 months, until 10.4. So it wouldn't be out of the ordinary to see 10.6 in less than 2 years time.
 
ColonelSmith said:
I'm with ya, but I'm def getting a new MBP to keep me happy while I wait it out. Might even grab a refurb Mac Pro while I'm at it.
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Man, there are some rich ass people on this forum. Must be nice. Either that, or there are a lot of broke ass people with massive credit card debt.
 
jbh001 said:
2009 will be the year that the Mac turns 25. What a wonderful way to commemorate that anniversary than by revamping the entire Mac line with Nehalem CPUs, chips from the Calpella chipset, and Mac OS 10.6, all in time for WWDC 2009.
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Come on.... just stop that now. We all like to dream but that's just ridiculous.
 
I'm currently looking into getting a macbook (my first apple computer) for when i head off to college in august. While i think the current macbooks will be more than sufficient for my everyday use, i'm going to wait it out till june to see what changes they make.

i heard that the integrated graphics will be upgraded, which would be nice, because in addition to the day to day computing, i would like to possibly be able to play spore (or even SCII when it comes out), and i just cant justify the extra cash for the pro just so that i can play two games.
 
@ timimbo85
I had several PCs and all of them presented zero hardware problems. I still have a pc laptop running every single day for 8 hours (on average) since june 2003 with 0 problems, not even a single pixel on the screen. You should normalize the number of defective units by the total number of units in the same class that have been sold in the same period. And, most of all, you should not listen to what apple zealots say.

@ Digital Skunk
My fault. I did not specify where I write from. I live in Italy, where a Mac is quite expensive, the "refurbished" store is always empty and the rare non-apple local shops sell ancient mac units at the same price of the apple store. I agree that my statement about the "zero-value" is quite an overstatement. Anyway it contains a little truth: if hw changes fast, it is irrational to keep constant prices. However, there is the reverse of the medal: I do think that the basic macbook pro is now quite a bargain, but in may (maybe) it will be considered overpriced... basically I agree with you: people should understand what they speak about when they are not required to speak.

Regards
-- thistle
 
@lord

I dont listen, I go from my experience as a Designer. Apple has never given me a problem with the programs I run. But every PC I have ever ran CS on was god awefull and smelled like it was going to fry. I don't need joe shmoe to tell me the comp i need to by, this is from personal and professional experience that I am speaking of. And yes maybe I might be rash on my opinon, bc to me I see Apple as a art tool not your everyday cookie cutter comp.
 
timimbo85 said:
@lord

I dont listen, I go from my experience as a Designer. Apple has never given me a problem with the programs I run. But every PC I have ever ran CS on was god awefull and smelled like it was going to fry. I don't need joe shmoe to tell me the comp i need to by, this is from personal and professional experience that I am speaking of. And yes maybe I might be rash on my opinon, bc to me I see Apple as a art tool not your everyday cookie cutter comp.
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Honestly speaking, I don't see why some mac users have an animosity against pc's, I love both PC's and MAC's. Can't we all be friends? Me personally, I use Mac's for design and PC's for games.

The only issue I have against MAC's are the price. My PC laptop beats the MAC laptop hands down in processing/graphics power and they were both around the same price.
 
AidenShaw said:
But it's "Blu-ray", not "Blu-Ray" - so keep trying.

Why do people who buy MACs have such problems with capitalization?
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Why do people who buy "MACs" make stupid forum posts correcting people for their capitalization.

also

Why do people write Mac in all caps? Newb.
 
Saladfingersz said:
Honestly speaking, I don't see why some mac users have an animosity against pc's, I love both PC's and MAC's. Can't we all be friends? Me personally, I use Mac's for design and PC's for games.

The only issue I have against MAC's are the price. My PC laptop beats the MAC laptop hands down in processing/graphics power and they were both around the same price.
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LOL, I honestly do not have anything against PC. I was an avid HP user before I made the ole switch arooo. I just find that "FOR ME" mac really kicks butt along the lines for my profession. I tried to load CS3 on my family comp and it just did not cut it. Idk I think I just had some PC issues and just never really liked it anymore. I would say if Apple wasn't around Id be a HP fan. I guess everyone has their own perferance.

____My new MBP was shipped and is waiting for me at home today!!!!! Only 3 days to get to Chicago from China. Todays work day is dragging :mad:
 
mac mini / imac

Relying on the information that Intel is trying to liquidate all 65nm chips ASAP, Mac Mini and iMac should get an update soon. Especially Mac Mini, which still uses 667Mhz FSB Core 2 Duo chips.

If Mac Mini gets T8100 Core2 Duo ( 2.1Ghz ) and Intel GMA X3100 that'll be just awesome. And Max meory should be 4GB just like other MB/MBP models.

iMacs should also get T8300/T9500/X9000 soon.
 
Not Necessarily a new design

tuffluffjimmy said:
Is the Montevina chip a big enough step forward to merit a case redesign in the Macbook Pros?
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Not necessarily. The DailyTech article infers that because the requirements of the new Penryn are the same as the requirements of the current Penryn, we shouldn't expect a new form factor. So I wouldn't assume that change in chip would drive change in case redesign.
 
Hooka said:
All of these negative post will be the people who went out and bought a MPB for no reason yesterday and now they are pissed that updates will be coming every 3 to 4 months.
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i bought one, but i'm not posting any negative comments, well in fact, i'm not pissed at all...because i have ALL the reason to buy my very first MAC...and very happy about it:):):):):):)

on the other hand, this thread is still in macRUMORS & not in Apple Store, right???:D
 

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