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Your fancy new MBPs are now worthless, at best just a giant paper weight.
 
So June
MBP in a new sleeker shell
> Mag latch
> Bigger track pad
> MB keyboard
> MBA feet
> 15" with a higher def screen option
> 3G/WiMax instead of slot?
> SSD HDD option?
 
It will be a decent upgrade, but not earthshaking. Montevino is essentially an improved Penryn. The next MAJOR upgrade will be Moorestown (early 2009, IIRC). Moorestown offers an integrated memory controller (and, optionally, video and wireless on the CPU chip) which will significantly improve performance and power consumption.

No one outside of Cupertino knows that's going to happen, but if I had to bet, it would be that the major redesign will wait for Moorestown. Given the reduction in chip count, you have the possibility for making the pro line considerably slimmer than it already is - which is clearly an Apple objective.

Ha that's pretty funny, the codename is that of my town :)

In regards to the actual rumored Juneish updates: YIPPEEEEEEE!!!

That is the time that i will be in the market for my college laptop! If this comes out so I'd be able to get the educational discount and the annual freebie iPod I'd be in 7th heaven. As much as I wanted a MacBook Air, it is just simply too underpowered and i'm worried it won't stay powerful enough to get me through my 5 year Co-op program at Drexel.

Sure the cases of the MacBook Pros are getting old, but give me a performance over a visual update. The current looks are still great. I don't h ave a problem with the keyboards and don't need a black MacBook Pro. Give me better heat control and greater battery life over those anyday.
 
Just bought one yesterday

I went to the apple store and bought a low end 15 inch yesterday. I was waiting for a while to make the switch and I couldn't be happier. It wasn't so much about features as the price drop.(high end becoming low end essentially) I understand they'll be a better one in the future, but I plan to keep this one for as long as it can do what I need it to do(design, development, multimedia stuff).

I think that buying something solely for the reason of having the latest and greatest is just dumb. You not only end up paying the premium($500 for an extra 100mhz, 3mb cache, 256vram) but also end up disappointed when a new one is released.
 
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) - Intel Corp. came under early pressure Wednesday after a prominent broker cut back its earnings estimates for the chipmaker, citing worries of slowing PC sales that is resulting in growing inventory.
In a report to clients, J.P. Morgan analyst Christopher Danley cut his earnings estimate for the current year by more than 5%. He also trimmed his target for 2009.
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INTC 20.70, +0.01, +0.1%) fell more than 2% in early trading Wednesday, though the stock recovered later in the session as the broader market turned up following comments by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke. See full story.
Intel's stock has already given up more than 20% of its value since the first of the year as worries about an economic slowdown have pressured tech stocks following a strong performance in 2007.
In his report, Danley cut his earnings-per-share target for 2008 to $1.36 from $1.44. The consensus estimate on Wall Street for the year is $1.41, according to Factset Research. For 2009, the analyst trimmed his EPS target to $1.50 from $1.56.
"Our checks indicate that Intel's [first quarter] is trending below plan due to weaker than expected orders for microprocessors (68% of 4Q07 revenue)," Danley wrote in his report. "We believe the lower-than-expected revenue is being driven by excess microprocessor inventory in the channel and decelerating PC demand."
The analyst added that "additional downside exists" and said he may revisit his neutral rating on the shares "after what we believe could be the first major round of estimate reductions."
The report may have put pressure on other stocks in the PC sector. Dell (DELL:dell inc com
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DELL 20.63, +0.15, +0.7%) , which reports results on Thursday after the bell, was down 1% in early trading. Hewlett-Packard (HPQ:Hewlett-Packard Co.
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AMD 7.25, +0.12, +1.7%) was down 0.7% in early trading.
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Maybe they cut MB prices ??
 
I can hear the cries already from all those who just bought the new MB and MBP's. LOL. Suck it up fanboys.

Not crying here :). I'm typing on my first Mac (new MBP). I was full aware of Montevina was coming out sooner than most would expect. But its a new ball game using Intel. Upgrades and new chips come out fast. Apple is just keeping up with the changes.

I started looking to get my first Mac in Dec. I estimated an update Jan happend one month later, no big deal. Montevina doesnt impress me whatsoever. Thats not the update you really hold out for. I bought now to upgrade in 2-3 yrs when SSD's are mainstream. Infact, once I saw SSD's being incorporated, I knew the faster I buy this MBP , the better. I''ll get 2-3 yrs of great use before i'm tempted to upgrade.

Montevina lol, give me a break. I looked at that very closely and I saw no reason to wait 4-6 months for it. But hey thats me :) . Now i'm enjoying a brand new MBP !!! Wait if you can, nothing wrong with that. But this is my first Mac, i'm not gonna wait months after I decided to switch in Dec lol.
 
What good what a Blu-Ray drive be at 1680x1050? For 1080p you'd need at least 1920×1080. As I'm sure you know though, 1920x1200 is the Hi-Def standard for computer monitors and laptops. Anything less, and it makes no sense to include Blu-Ray, IMHO.

Maybe so that you want watch your Blu-ray Discs?

That's why it does make sense to put a BD player in every laptop - not just those with screens that can do native 1080p.

And, it's "Blu-ray" - not one of the other typos floating around. Why can't MAC people get their capitals right?
 
Alot of you guys are pathetic. You really believe that JUNE is going to be correct. Look how long it too just for a MBP update. Everyone thought keynote, and that wasn't the case at all. You guys need to stop reading these threads and get a life. Seriously go out side and get air and be active. Guys on hear trying to bash the new MBP buyers, your tough bro, have fun waiting while I make 2g a logo designing on my new pro. Ur so worried about design and ****, are u going to bring it out with u saturday night and try and pick up girls...... for real, i am done with this forum, I got my gear and am very happy with the end result.

Every "real" mac user on this thread has had zero complaints about there old powerbooks....flippen power books. Mac is durable and now I am happy with my purchase and cant wait to use it.

YOU WILL NEVER BE UP TO DATE WITH TECHNOLOGY, GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
 
Quit propagating this ridiculous assumption.

First Apple doesn't offer true high-def downloads. Yeah I know that they are 720p but they are so highly compressed that they are not really a true high-def bitrate. They are really only slightly better than DVD quality.

Compare Apple TV 720p to blu-ray 1080p on 50 inch HD TV and the difference is staggering. Blu-ray makes Apple TV look like broadcast 480i.

Also the majority of the country (USA) does not have adequate broadband to support true HD downloads. Blu-ray is a much better delivery method, rather than tying up internet bandwidth for days downloading a few movies.

Then you have the people who like to collect their favorite movies for their own video collection. It won't take too many 35 GB HD movies before you fill up that Apple TV HDD.

Also Apple is big into pro level apps like Final Cut Pro for high-def authoring. Are you telling me that they aren't going to support blu-ray authoring now that HD-DVD is dead.

Look Blu-ray won the high-def wars. Please lets all move on behind this standard so that prices can finally drop and video title libraries increase.
Please don't go trying to cloud the issue with a bogus, "Apple doesn't support blu-ray because they are pushing a download model" argument.
Actually it's not quite ridiculous.

The sale of Blu-Ray discs is nothing compared to that of the DVD. For one reason and one reason alone. People aren't willing to re-buy their video collection again (for some a third time). One of the big selling points of the DVD over a VCR tape is that after the first rewind of the tape the quality goes down. This is not the case with a DVD.

I'm not debating that a both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD have better picture quality than a DVD, however better quality doesn't always win and at times can lose even after dominating the market place (look at what happened with CDs, everyone knows that compressed music is not better than uncompressed, but look what happened there).

Another thing that you need to remember is that people want to watch content on all types of devices (50" Plasma, iPod, PSP, Zune, iPhone, Computer, etc....). Do you know see the problem with the Blu-Ray delivery.

And bandwidth is improving, a little everyday, you will see higher and higher resolution.

Also I watched the 720P iTunes version of Michael Clayton last night on a 50" Pioneer Elite Plasma and it did not look bad. In fact it was a lot better than the highly compressed HD found on cable.
 
Moorestown is for UMPCs, not laptops

It will be a decent upgrade, but not earthshaking. Montevino is essentially an improved Penryn. The next MAJOR upgrade will be Moorestown (early 2009, IIRC). Moorestown offers an integrated memory controller (and, optionally, video and wireless on the CPU chip) which will significantly improve performance and power consumption.

Moorestown is a different family - it's the follow-on to Silverthorne for UMPCs and MIDs.

Before Menlow devices make it to the mainstream, Intel this week announced another major milestone for its ultra-mobile platform. Called Moorestown, Intel revealed that by roughly mid 2009, we will be able to see devices that consume 20 times less power than devices available in 2006. According to Intel roadmaps, Moorestown devices will be able to last a full day's of mixed productivity and leisure activities -- approximately 24 hours.

...

Moorestown's CPU will be 50-percent smaller in size than Silverthorne and consume roughly 50-percent less power. Intel will also be making Moorestown available as a single core or dual core system utilizing DDR3 memory. Despite having internal graphics, Intel is expecting that Moorestown will outperform Menlow's graphics by 50-percent.

I don't think that people would be happy with the performance of Moorestown in a MacBook.
 
Hilarious

The rumor cycle has accelerated to morning-after incidence. I love it. I will keep my iBook G4 forever! This way I will have no buyer's remorse.
 
I can't even believe this title. June update? Is there anyone who waited for yesterdays update and now will wait longer? It's never ending. If i waited this long, i'd buy now. June could turn into August.

I can't believe I'm back to waiting either! Yesterday's update was fine, but some articles are saying to wait until June (as have already been posted on this site: http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/82744) for the major upgrade to Centrino 2.

So I just bought another portable 250 gig HD and ordered more RAM for my PB today.
 
woo hoo! Now I know I'll be in debt in August or so! Knowing that apple has been dropping the ball lately on delivering things "on-time"
 
All of these negative post will be the people who went out and bought a MPB for no reason yesterday and now they are pissed that updates will be coming every 3 to 4 months.

True, for some people. Yes, I went and ordered a new MBP yesterday. But I'm perfectly fine with the fact that Montevina is just around the corner. Because by then, Nehalem will be coming. Then the next platform, and the one after that. I know this has been said a million times before, but for people still playing the waiting game: You can wait all you want for the latest and greatest, but there will always be something new around the corner.
 
True, for some people. Yes, I went and ordered a new MBP yesterday. But I'm perfectly fine with the fact that Montevina is just around the corner. Because by then, Nehalem will be coming. Then the next platform, and the one after that. I know this has been said a million times before, but for people still playing the waiting game: You can wait all you want for the latest and greatest, but there will always be something new around the corner.


^^^^^ I agree with you 100% So if were fools for buying yesterday, then in 3-4 months you will be the fool too bc in 3-4 more months theres yet again another update. I'm more pissed bc people are so greedy and ignorant, all grown up with a sliver spoon in their mouths it sounds like.
 
Ok one more question ..... Will they keep the mini (upgrade or not) or get rid of it?

Who knows? My answer is the same as the answer to the previous question. If the mini meets your needs and you need a computer, buy it. If it doesn't meet your needs, don't.

AFAIC, trying to guess what the future might hold (other than the obvious - faster systems, more storage space, more RAM) is entertaining. Basing your purchase decisions on it, though, is silly.
 
^^^^^ I agree with you 100% So if were fools for buying yesterday, then in 3-4 months you will be the fool too bc in 3-4 more months theres yet again another update. I'm more pissed bc people are so greedy and ignorant, all grown up with a sliver spoon in their mouths it sounds like.

Didn't the Mini have a "silent" update becuase it was going to be updated again soon after. Didn't the original update to Intel (the one with the 1.5 CS) last only a short time?

Didn't the graphics card industry have updates every 2 months or so and the government had to step in and tell them to "cool it" (no pun intended...)?

I remember buying the most expensive latest GeForce card back in the 90's only to have it updated 1 month later... :mad:
 
People of branding Montevina as Jesus' second coming.


Its just a front side bus upgrade no?

processors will be the same (penryn), so no speed boosts there.
 
I, personnally, want something VERY easy for them :)apple:)!

Black Anodized Aluminium

Everything is fine on the macbook pro... size and form factor is great... just want black!

Edit : sorry.. I also like the magnetic latch idea... and the 15" with 1680x1050 please


Agree. A black alu MBP would be hard to resist. 1660x1050 is a good balance between definition and resulting default text & icon size, any higher def and text becomes very hard to read on a 15 inch screen unless specifically dealt with through config (only possible in some programs).

Let at least hope they change the current silver keyboard in June. It looks cheap.
 
links links and more links. I admire your research abilities. Maybe if i werent so lazy, I would stuff up myself. ;)
I'm glad that you took the time to glance over the research that I've done. It's not that hard. The majority of my data comes from my personalized My Yahoo! page with about a dozen RSS feeds on technology. The rest of it is just from using Google News searches.

Yes, you too can be more like me.

I've said this a lot over the past few days but I don't see a major need to get a new MacBook until they ship with Montevina. I do my gaming on my desktop so I'm just interested in a low cost Apple laptop. Since I already have a Merom Santa Rosa Macbook, I'll wait for refurbished Montevina hardware.
 
So are we going to wait again in June for whatever coming after the Montevina? And asking where the redesign, bluray or whatever?
 
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