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Next MacBook Pro to Get New Case Design
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I don't understand why people are so precious about it. There are plenty of wireless/online solutions (i.e. Dropbox, Steam, Netflix, Grooveshark, iTunes Store) for what the optical drive serves, while external hard drives work for local solutions. And in the extremely rare case that I need to use a DVD, I'd just use an external optical drive.
There are plenty of wireless/online solutions, but the MacBook Pros don't have 3G nor 4G, and even if they did, there are places where you can't get broadband internet nor 3G, let alone 4G. Sure, if you live in a metropolitan U.S. city, you're fine, but do remember that you lucky and that your connection options aren't EVERYWHERE.
That and I really don't want to pay to watch movies I already bought on DVD. I'm sure I'm not alone there. External Superdrive you say? Making me pay $100 for something that was previously integrated for free? No thanks.
I'm honestly hoping Apple doesn't release a black Macbook Pro, to me one of the key features of a macbook is being able to recognize it immediately as a Mac. Unless Apple gives the blackbook some signature styling, which by the way I'm sure they will, I wont want to see it.
How about putting a glowing fruit in the middle of the lid? That might be distinctive....
Its not that were in love with the idea of NOT having an ODD...its just the benefits of the saved space we love (bigger battery, thinner body...etc).
I understand that, but to me an all black Mac is not really apple anymore. What I meant was I just hope it retains some of the current models style.
What ever choices they make I do hope it addresses the issue with the 17inch MacBook Pro in reference to interference and the SATA cable.
What ever the case maybe I'm going to hold off upgrading my iMac and MacBook Pro until after Lion is released so then I'm getting hardware that'll be fully take advantage of by Lion - a video card that supports OpenGL 3.x, OpenCL 1.x etc.
What ever the case maybe I'm going to hold off upgrading my iMac and MacBook Pro until after Lion is released so then I'm getting hardware that'll be fully take advantage of by Lion - a video card that supports OpenGL 3.x, OpenCL 1.x etc.
Great, I've been hungering for a new Macbook Pro for quite some time, and was hoping I could hold out long enough to get a non-ugly model
I can't stand the UB look.
What?! It's the best looking laptop there is!
But not if it looked like the black plastic MacBook. Its gotta be PERFECT looking, which in sure apple could do, I mean will do
If it is released in spring of 2012 and not this fall, i hope they include DDR4. Or maybe it will be released this fall following Lion then in spring 2012 they can refresh it?
Its not that were in love with the idea of NOT having an ODD...its just the benefits of the saved space we love (bigger battery, thinner body...etc).
The sans-optical-drive wishlist at large contains things that contradict with each other. Thinner body and bigger battery, for instance; if you make it thinner, you make the battery smaller. Or, with the optical drive gone, you'd make it thinner with no real improvement to the battery, and at that point, there's no point. Also of note, the optical drive is pretty freakin' thin as it stands, so it wouldn't be buying you all that much thickness unless you also took out the FireWire 800 and Ethernet ports as well, at which point you essentially have a MacBook Air. So why not just get the MacBook Air? Plus, does the MacBook PRO really need to be thinner than than it is already? Also, you make the major assumption that Apple would give you anything additional other than THINNER in lieu of the optical drive.
If notebook DDR4 memory is both supported by whatever Intel system controller is on notebooks by that time, and available, then it is safe to assume that Apple will also adopt it.
But not if it looked like the black plastic MacBook. Its gotta be PERFECT looking, which in sure apple could do, I mean will do
Man, the damn thing could be made out of cheap plastic and it wouldn't matter, because it's a high-end Mac laptop, running a completely un-hacked, unmodified version of the OS. I seriously fail to understand the obsession with how Apple products "look". The notion that you wouldn't buy it if it looked a certain way or was made out of a certain "lesser" material (even if the "lesser" material were supposedly more durable) boggles my mind as it's no less capable of a machine. Don't get me wrong, it's a nice feature, but I buy the computer because it's a good computer, not because it's a good looking computer. It's not a freakin' fashion accessory.
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MBP Re-design
If you listening or reading the forum's Apple engineer's would you please bring back the silver keyboards, pre-uni-body.
Thank you
If you listening or reading the forum's Apple engineer's would you please bring back the silver keyboards, pre-uni-body.
Thank you
I have a late 2008 Macbook, the first in the Unibody Line and now I'm really looking forward to upgrade since I also use Parallels quite frequently and sometimes this is really getting slow. I wanted to buy the Early 2011 15 inch MBP but now I guess I'll wait since I only will buy a new MBP once Lion is out, and at that time I guess its also worth waiting for the new MBP.
oh come on man stop it already im sick of your moaning!
FIRST, odd has to go, thats not disputable, look at he iFixit pics of 17inch guts, it takes about 1/4 or 1/5 of the entire innards!!! it just has to be outside, imagine all the possibilities apple could achieve without ********* odd, they could upgrade every single thing - more battery, faster cpu, faster gpu, more storage, better cooling!!! come on, that's why i like apple they don't care about people like you dragging us, they want to go forward not stay in place for eternity.
get ready for it, because odd is gone, its history, and you know why? thats the next thing to do, they cant do anything else before they remove the odd, so be ready for it, make peace with it, sorry
SECOND, its not my problem that you dont have eyes, or for the lack of better word, taste, a 3000+ usd laptop has to look great, form and functionality is 50/50, everything has to be great, superb, unfortunately only two companies i can think of right now that are like that are apple and bang & olufsen, every company should be like those two, but they arent you know why? because people are satisfied with every ****** they see because its GOOD ENOUGH, its a laptop why does it have to look good, ****** that!
watched a film recently, satirical comedy about human future, all in all stupid film but it has a important thing going on - it presents human future very bad - everybody is stupid, listen to bad music, watch lousy movies, everything looks ugly, people are fat, badly dressed, only important thing is to do some work (on your laptop that can get the work done, thats the only thing thats important) and have some fun (watching 100 years old dvds), sounds familiar? well, thats probably our world for about 50-100 years. But one thing crosses my mind immediately, for as long as we have companies like apple that value both functionality and form we have a chance to be something better, the only thing we have to do is to require things like that, nothing less - and thats where you come in
the film is called Idiocracy
Thinner really only means that we will lose some useful features. HP can make a 15" laptop with a numeric keypad, Apple can't do that even on their 17 "Pro" model. That's the problem with Apple's all powerful & controlling form over function way of making their computers. But added to this form over function law & rule of Apple's is Steve Jobs control over things that should be User dictated. Things like a wireless keyboard with a numeric keypad. Even with Steve Jobs sticking his tongue out at the Mac Pro Business User, there are many of us that use a Mac anyway.
Steve Jobs the "used car salesman," says that we have to buy what he has Apple make. If Windows was better we would take his not so subtle hints & move to that platform. Most companies do many things to keep their existing customers & to get new customers. Apple under Steve Jobs does not work on that theory. Their way of doing business is to make a poduct small, thin & pretty. Then we must buy those crippled, becaue of size, products if we want any of their useful features.
I changed to Sprint & the Android OS because of the limited choices & ability to have an easy to change battery. Lack of memory cards in most of their devices & toys is another form over function idea. I don't plan on purchasing an iPhone anytime in the next 10+ years. Already having a 17" Mac laptop,my Android smart phone, an iPod Touch that I have not used in over a year, my small & portable computer needs are already met. I'll still look at the iPad & the similar Android products to see if they have any useful purpose for me. Rather than making the iPad 2 with a larger battery Apple under Steve Jobs control chose to make it thinner & prettier. More form over function.
I am one of those people that choose Mac products in spite of Steve Jobs rather than because of Steve Jobs.
Let's do away with for over function.
Like many business users the 16:10 screen has too little height. The 16:9 screens mean that we lose 10% more height. A 16:9 user can have a little extra black area, but a 16:10 user has trouble with a 10% virtual screen. If Apple was like other companies that made more than one model then a 16:9 screen would work as those of us that need the now 10% extra height with our screens.
Many people actually use their Macs to make a living with. They may be used to show movies & play music in part of our off duty hours, but we always need more screen space, not less. The 27" iMac has a bigger screen than the older iMacs, but just think of how much more useful they would be to the 16:10 computer screen user.
The argument that the screen that Apple supplies us with has to be the only choice that should be available. Or some will say who needs more than one 27-30" screens for one computer. I use 3 30" screens as well as a 28" 1920 S 1200 computer screen & a 47" 16:9 screen for my customer viewing of my work as I am doing it. But it would be much more useful as a 16:10 screen. At one time I was hoping for a 36" or 42" 16:10 screen with higher resolution than the current 30" screen resolution of 2620 X 1600. With the restrictions of the new version of Excel I am short at least one line to allow 2 vertical page viewing. I want bigger & higher resolution & you seem to be satisfied with taking steps back in video screen technology.
Business users must stand up for our Macs. There should be enough toy sized products made by Apple with the iPod, iPhone & iPad. Besides the movie viewing iMacs do we have to also give up our business Macs. Some of us, as I have, have used our Macs in & for business for over 27 years now. Many of us are getting too old to learn Linux or Windows, or we plain do not want to switch.
16:9 may be good enough for you, but not for everyone. How about something for both of us. I have a 23" & 30" Mac screens. I had planned on adding 2 more 30" Mac screen when they became led back lit. But with all of the rumors, the 27" iMac & finally the 27" led back lit screen in a 16:9 variety gave me no choice but to purchase 2 HP 30" displays.
I remember the days when new models meant new useful features without always giving up all of the older but still useful features. The biggest problem with some new technologies is not that they are not good it is that they are not easily used with the old. Take DisplayPort/Mini DisplayPort item & now with /ThunderBolt. Our DVI stuff is still good but they take adapters to use. Now we find out that our "1st Generation" adapters will not work with the 1st Gen ThunderBolt.
16:9 is just part of the whole thing.
When it comes to design, what one person calls hideous the othe may say is the most beautiful thing they have ever seen. I personally like the aluminum products. I just wish that they would make them a little bigger to allow for bigger batteries, 10 key numeric keypads on at least the biggest of the Mac laptops. Unless we are all the same we should have many different groups of likes & dislikes.
I used to carry a desktop Mac & 16 lb 15" lcd screen that weighed at least 50 pounds before I got my 17" PowerBook & now 17" Intel MacBook Pro.Some say they are heavy at 6+pounds. I say tat they are very light by my standards. Here is just one of the millions examples of differences in opinions or life experiences that we have.
Be a mature adult and deal with it.
Oh? It's not? Because I get the feeling that it's one of the most disputed topics on these forums today.
Man, I take the MacBook Pros all apart for a living at an Apple Authorized Repair Center. I have taken 'em all apart more than enough times to know exactly how large that optical drive is. For one, it's really thin. The FireWire 800 and Ethernet ports are just as thin, if not thicker than it is. There's also a decent amount of the optical drive that's obscured by other components as Apple is pretty good at jigsawing the damn things together. You needn't lecture me on what they look like naked; I know better than you do.
Are you serious? If Apple removed the ODD, they'd only make it thinner. You obviously don't get how Apple works. Also, let me bust a few myths that you seem to have there. Removing the optical drive doesn't give them better cooling, especially if that same cavity is also to be used for any of the other things you want in place. You won't get a better GPU until the computer itself is made thicker (hence why the Thunderbolt iMacs have the 6970M and why the current MacBook Pros only have, at best, a 6750M) as you need a thicker chasis for the type of heatsink required to cool such a better GPU (note: if it's thicker, then having an optical drive doesn't impede anything). Better storage is possible, but only demanded by so few. Also, Thunderbolt solves all storage problems, unless you really have 1.5TB of stuff that you need to take with you ALL THE TIME (which. again, is only demanded by so few). The Late 2010 MacBook Air has demonstrated that Apple can add SSDs without costing space, so if you want a hard drive and an SSD, the optical isn't impeding that either. You're not going to get a better CPU, because we already have the best we're gonna get without making the entire chassis thicker (again, nothing the optical drive is impeding).
You don't get out much, do you?
For $3000, the computer I buy better have every feature I could possibly need down the line. At that point, it's a tool, an implement I am to use to accomplish a task and to get it done. Provided it's not going to fall apart, and provided it is durable and can withstand every day travel and use, as long as it is decently fast and does what I need it to do, what it's made out of or how it's designed is really a moot point. To sacrifice a feature that doesn't fit in your limited world but does in both mine and in a lot of others, for the sake of Apple doing any number of things that they wouldn't realistically do and/or for it to "look better" is nonsensical, I'm sorry.
I'd comment on your complete lack of maturity here, but it speaks for itself far better than I could. Instead I'm going pose the theory that perhaps you are projecting your own fears about proving that film true? Again, I've given you a logical argument against every single thing you've said and the best you have for me is "it's not my fault you don't have eyes or taste" and that I'd fit right into Idiocracy.
Optical drives are eventually doomed to cease to exist, but so are PCs and laptops. We'll all be using things like the iPad and the Motorola Xoom, brand new platforms designed to supplant the PC for the most common tasks; things that have an immediate irrefutable answer to the question of "what do I do without an optical drive" out of the box. The MacBook Pro isn't such a machine. When it is, then you will be completely justified in calling me a dinosaur. Though, by then, I seriously hope you will have grown up a bit.