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Ming-Chi Kuo is more accurate than anyone else on earth who makes predictions about Apple products.

That's why I'm disappointed to see that no 4-inch iPhone is mentioned in this prediction. This is disappointing considering that Kuo also predicted that the iPhone SE would not be updated next year.

I love my SE, it's the only upgrade from my iPhone 5. I hope Apple will realize there are tons of 4-inch users desiring a top of the line performance but under the flexibility of a 4" size phone.
 
It will be disappointing if in fact Apple decides to add the nice features just to the XL iPhone. I still have an iPhone 6 and was willing to wait until the iPhone 8, like many others, but if the rumors are true I might just jump ship for a different brand. I do not like sales tactics or tricks like making the larger phone nicer just to get that extra dollar out of you. Apple has the best engineers and there are no reasons on why all models can't have the same features.
How is it a tactic or trick to put larger items (dual camera) into a larger form factor? There isn't enough room in a smaller phone for some of the larger items.... I really don't understand how that's hard for some to grasp.
 
That's not true. There are plenty of OLED panels being made. LG is a huge producer of OLED panels.The problem is, Apple decided not to use LG.
Personally, I think OLED isn't ideal for mobile device (is great for TV). I just don't like the fact that if you want features, you have to buy the bigger screen.
 
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Do you honestly think that the duel camera system wouldn't fit in the 4.7 phone? of course it would. They found space to put a bigger Taptic engine in there. A feature I'm sure hardly anybody would've cared about had it been omitted.

Its upsell nothing more, put most of the attractive new features in the bigger (read more expensive) iPhone in order to increase the average selling price of the phone.

Apple is becoming a Wall Streets bitch under Cook.

Right... It would fit and you'd lose a lot of battery life, and people like you would bitch about that.
 
Wow so many whiners here! "Apple is "fragmented"..... waaaaaaa "I don't want the bigger phone but want all the features that fit into a bigger phone" waaaaaaa "Steve is rolling in his grave" waaaaaa "This isn't Steve's apple" waaaaaaa...."apple is dead" waaaaaaaa.... FFS shut up!!

How hard is it to pick the phone you want and buy it no matter how many options there are? What's so hard to understand that a larger phone 7+ can house a dual camera while a smaller phone 7 can't? Steve is dead get the hell over it! See my last sentence. Yeah dead to the tune of billions of dollars.

Just bout my wife a new car..... I was so shocked how fragmented the manufacturers have the line ups!! I couldn't decide between the SE, LX, SX models..... it was sooooo confusing. How can the same company have so many different options for their cars? Man it's a surprise they can get anyone to understand what they're buying.....
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Floppy disk had an obvious successor; the CD. Headphone jack has nothing. But you conveniently don't mention that.
Ummmm you can still use your plug in headphones.... no one is stopping you. PLUS there is this really cool replacement for wired headphones.... it's this crazy new thing called blue tooth headphones.
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Apple, why fragment products like iPhone? Why do customers have to buy a bigger phone to get features?
because the smaller phone doesn't have the room for a 2 camera set up..... why is that hard to understand?
I only looked at the first page, but I saw exactly what I was thinking as I read the article:

The product line-up is becoming overly complicated, and for what reason? To maximize profits?

Isn't that what Sculley tried to do?
What exactly is "overly complicated" about having options to choose from?
 
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because the smaller phone doesn't have the room for a 2 camera set up..... why is that hard to understand?
What exactly is "overly complicated" about having options to choose from?
Don't be ridiculous. I have already debunked that myth. NOT EVERY PART OF THE PHONE HAS TO STAY THE SAME SCALE.

and that is the problem, Apple isn't giving you options to choose from. Since you mentioned the package options when buying a car. Yes, a single model will have a different packages of options. But this isn't how Apple does it. You either get the limo-sized ultra expensive luxury item or the bare bones "economy" car. Apple should not restrict features like force touch to the high-end model of their phones while excluding that same feature to other similar devices. This was a stupid move and hindered adoption and artificially fragments the product line. Consistent features across the product line makes sense for phones. It is like Nike selling Air Jordans where only > size 10 have laces.
 
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Uh...that's a huge difference in size.


Not when you consider that the iPhone 7 has a bigger Taptic Engine, a bigger battery and no headphone jack compared to 6s.
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because the smaller phone doesn't have the room for a 2 camera set up..... why is that hard to understand?

You've just made this up haven't you? The iPhone 7 has nothing next the the camera module just unused space

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ok it's a rumor at this point but i don't like it at all..why would they preserve LCD option for the Plus model when they have OLED?
it's obvious Apple want to max profit by somehow justifying charging even more for the OLED Plus version and keep the LCD Plus version as standard and as an excuse to justify an even more expensive model.
I mean OLED is nothing new,it's amazing and all but Samsung has been using it since like a decade ago with no price hike so why everything Apple does should be cost so much extra?
 
Not when you consider that the iPhone 7 has a bigger Taptic Engine, a bigger battery and no headphone jack compared to 6s.
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You've just made this up haven't you? The iPhone 7 has nothing next the the camera module just unused space

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Someone here already put the camera units side by side... one is twice the size of the other. You say unused space but it doesn't look unused to me. Looks like there are electronic components right next to the camera.... if you mean the space beside that I can't tell you why that's there and if there would be space enough for the double camera....could that be used for heat distribution in conjunction with the back of the phone? there is something there..... but I'm not in the know so have no clue what it is.
 
Not when you consider that the iPhone 7 has a bigger Taptic Engine, a bigger battery and no headphone jack compared to 6s.
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You've just made this up haven't you? The iPhone 7 has nothing next the the camera module just unused space

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I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with the Taptic Engine, battery, and no headphone jack.

As for your photo, there isn't unused space. Where do you think the ear piece, speaker, front facing camera, and cables go genius?
 
It seems Apple's product lineup grows more and more complicated each year (if we're to believe in this 'third-higher-end-iPhone' rumor).
Now there's 3 MacBook Pro models, 2 of them the same size but with different features, a refuse-to-die MacBook Air, 2 sizes of iPad Pro, 3 iPhone models (or 5 if we count last year's models).
Apple today is so complicated and confusing that makes me wonder if they're really losing their way without Steve Jobs... (and I always say no one should say "Steve wouldn't have allowed this or that).
When he was in charge, things were plain simple and focused, the product line was so clean and straightforward.
I know that Apple today is not the same company it was back in 1997, but I can't help thinking that Tim Cook is being too 'permissive' and playing the 'let's throw things to the wall and see what sticks' game...
I love Apple products and I can't see myself using Android phones everl. I'm only worried about the over complication on Apple's product line :(
 
It seems Apple's product lineup grows more and more complicated each year (if we're to believe in this 'third-higher-end-iPhone' rumor).
Now there's 3 MacBook Pro models, 2 of them the same size but with different features, a refuse-to-die MacBook Air, 2 sizes of iPad Pro, 3 iPhone models (or 5 if we count last year's models).
Apple today is so complicated and confusing that makes me wonder if they're really losing their way without Steve Jobs... (and I always say no one should say "Steve wouldn't have allowed this or that).
When he was in charge, things were plain simple and focused, the product line was so clean and straightforward.
I know that Apple today is not the same company it was back in 1997, but I can't help thinking that Tim Cook is being too 'permissive' and playing the 'let's throw things to the wall and see what sticks' game...
I love Apple products and I can't see myself using Android phones everl. I'm only worried about the over complication on Apple's product line :(

Bollocks,
There have been three model Macbook Pro for several years before. The old unibody and the 2 new retina's.
I'm sure Macbook Air won't be around for long, but it's well loved reasonably priced in apple standards and a favourite of many students.
2 sizes of iPad Pro? there have been 2 sizes of iPad for years and years. So if you want a pencil or smart keyboard, you pick a pro sized, otherwise you save money and pick an Air 2 or a mini. If you want a mini pro, you'll have to wait or are out of luck.
IPhones, 3 sizes, 3 models, pick features, pick size you want or let the price be your main deciding factor. What's so complicated about that?

To be honest, if you think Apple's product line up is confusing, look at all the Samsung devices there are. Madness. Galaxy A, S, J, Note and then there are several models per line. How are you going to choose?

Perhaps if you can't make the simple decision in apples product line what to choose, you're not sane, fit and qualified to use any mobile device?!!
 
Wow.

If they force people to buy the Plus "Pro" just to get OLED, I for one will not be buying an iphone 8 under any circumstances.

this is ridiculous.
 
Personally, I think OLED isn't ideal for mobile device (is great for TV). I just don't like the fact that if you want features, you have to buy the bigger screen.

Agreed. But Apple really empathized the Plus model this year with the dual camera and Jet Black color. And it's evident this where they are placing there premium features in. From sales perspective, I understand. But the iPhone is likely to become more expensive from this point forward.
 
Personally, I think OLED isn't ideal for mobile device (is great for TV). I just don't like the fact that if you want features, you have to buy the bigger screen.
some people don't need all these 'features'. It is a frigging phone after all.
I use mine in descending order of use
1) Phone
2) Text/SMS
3) Apps (only 3 or 4 in regular use)
4) Web browsing.
5) Playing Soduku.
6) Camera (a distant 6th.) I counted the number of pictures I've taken with a phone/tablet in the past 5 years. Comes to a grand total of 116. Whereas I've taken more then 50K with my DSLR(s). The picture to your right could not have been taken with a phone without extra lenses The animal was just too far away.

Everyone's use case is different. A small phone that performs well is fine by me. Some people love big phones. Even with my dinner plate sized hands, I find anything over 5in awkward to use.
 
I'm not sure this is a great idea if true. If Apple wants to move downmarket just move there and make the play spec bumping old phones and letting the small version trail seems like a bad call.
 
Right... It would fit and you'd lose a lot of battery life, and people like you would bitch about that.
Not sure why you think that, the camera is not near the battery section
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No, it's not. If this rumour comes true it is a mess, but even then it's not like the number of niche Macs that existed before Steve returned.

Do you think the executive team which was around for iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad would really forget this most basic lesson?
Well they didn't learn the lesson of gluing in batteries and soldering in RAM and SSD, how weird that if your motherboard dies and you haven't backed up your data is gone. At least with competitors you can take the ssd out and put it in an enclosure to recover the data.
 
Im interested if they get the edge to edge screen and lose bezels, if they can get close to the S7 Edge in form and function. Which is a much better phone if only for a battery that you don't have to micro manage charging.

ALSO APPLE PLEASE MOVE THE CAMERA LENS TO THE MIDDLE OF THE PHONE AND GIVE US A MUTE ICON. BASICS APPLE.
 
Oh c'mon, no Dual Cameras on the 4.7"?

That's the fun of this game, what happened to the smart connector on the so called iPhone 7 Pro? But how to forget "Apple will not remove the headphone jack, that's stupid".

And my favourite: There's been no leaks of a 5.5" iPhone so it won't happen.

Rumours said only the 6s Plus will have 3D touch, and only the 7 Pro will have dual camera, it's the same story all over again.
 
Floppy disk had an obvious successor; the CD. Headphone jack has nothing. But you conveniently don't mention that.

There's no obvious successor?

So does this mean that you actually can't connect headphones to the new iPhone and listen to music?

My bad, I didn't realise that. I see why the furore is about now.

I use my iPhone to listen to music all the time, so I guess I'd be screwed.
 
Does (AM)OLED automatically mean a pentile matrix display as on the Samsung phones? Because if that's the case they can keep it.
 
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