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I got rid of my iPads a while ago now when I just no longer had any use for them. I charged them full and then they just sat there until they went dead again.

Sticking with iPadOS is crippling the device. Zero point in putting any M series chips in there if they weren’t going to unleash its full potential and allow iPads to run MacOS.

Then Apple has the cheek to price these devices at MacBook levels. Disgraceful.

I’m still not sure macOS on the iPad is the way to go, but they’ve wasted so many years of potential development I don’t know what else they could do at this point. It seems pretty clear they separated iPadOS from iOS so they could DE-prioritize development, not the other way around.
 
As long as they continue to neuter the iPads with the OS I see no reason to upgrade from my current model pro. At the rate apple is going, by the time my iPad dies, I probably will just get a new MacBook instead, especially at those rumored prices.

At this point the only advantage I see of the iPad over the MacBook is if I want to use it outside or while eating or drinking. Don’t want to take those chances with my MacBook, and the iPad is better sealed (though has no IP rating.)

But at these prices, it’s not all that much less of a risk.
 
With Magic Keyboard = Finder and windowing
Without Magic Keyboard = Launchpad and full-screen
Yes, it would really be so easy.
I splurged on my 4th gen 11” iPad Pro with the Apple keyboard. It runs every piece of software my Mac Studio does that I need (Office Suite, Affinity Suite, Readdle and Google apps. To my surprise, the iPad is my most used device, about equal to my iPhone. Most often with the keyboard, but it’s easily detached in a split second when I don’t want it. I agree that it’s pricey, but to me, it seems that the laptops are the devices heading toward obsolescence.
 
If Apple needs to price them this high they will not be replacements for the current lineup. They will either go into a new super high end model or will be an option (like nano texture on the studio display or how different storage options exist today). I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple finds a way to offer this technology at no or only moderate price increase, maybe coupled with other upgrades on those models that don’t cost them much (more Ram/storage for example), to make the increase more palatable. When Apple introduced the iMac 27“ 5k, the price was very reasonable for the incredible display that was included.
 
LOL we acting like OLED wasn’t something I had over 10 years ago on my old trusty HTC Desire. Or my Samsung Galaxy S2. Cmon apple… you’re just laughing at us now
 
I HAVE those tablets. I’m not guessing on this stuff. The OLED panels on the Samsung tablets are quite dim. Sure the picture looks great since it’s an OLED, but Apple rejected those old, cheap panels because they’re not bright enough. I put my brightness slider up to just under the red zone and it’s still quite dim. Put them side by side and you’ll see an enormous difference in brightness, and that is why Apple is likely to use these new double stacked panels.

You’d be right if they just used the same OLED panels as everyone else. They probably wouldn’t need to up the price at all since those have been produced for years. These are new panels, never used before in consumer electronics. Apple has two criteria for display quality: real brightness so they can advertise as HDR (they consider HDR400 to be fake HDR), and high contrast. Right now, only those prospective panels meet those criteria. The ideal would be microLED, but that is still years away from being consumer friendly, which are essentially self-emissive LED panels that can be made as bright as we want since their inorganic material isn‘t susceptible to burn-in. When the first microLED consumer screens come out, you can bet those will be pretty pricey, too.
From what I’ve seen with my own eyes I don’t really notice any difference between any devices in general. Whether that’s TV’s, phone, laptops or tablets.

Whether they use OLED, LCD or QLED. Maybe it’s just my own eyes but they all look the same to me.

I barely notice any difference between 1080p and 4K. I think you have to really stare at an image and focus to start noticing details.

This is why I think it’s just all marketing jargon. It’s like Apples magical charts in keynotes with no actual figures just a vague 20% jump in performance etc which in reality comes to performing a task about 10 seconds faster.
 
From what I’ve seen with my own eyes I don’t really notice any difference between any devices in general. Whether that’s TV’s, phone, laptops or tablets.

Whether they use OLED, LCD or QLED. Maybe it’s just my own eyes but they all look the same to me.

I barely notice any difference between 1080p and 4K. I think you have to really stare at an image and focus to start noticing details.

This is why I think it’s just all marketing jargon. It’s like Apples magical charts in keynotes with no actual figures just a vague 20% jump in performance etc which in reality comes to performing a task about 10 seconds faster.
Yes, it’s just your eyes. Even with my repeatedly operated-on bad eyes, I can see vast differences in brightness. If you’ve paid any attention to the TV industry, all people talk about is brightness and the lack of it in OLED. Starting with last year’s QD-OLED screens and this year with LG’s MLA technology, OLED screens are starting to leap ahead in brightness with the current 2023 models promising 2000 nits (I don’t believe it, but we’ll see). Mini-LED models have reached 2400-3000 nits in some versions. Brightness is especially important in bright room situations. Not everyone has a dedicated movie theater that is completely dark, which is where traditional WOLED works great. In a pitch black room, even 200 nits can seem bright. But in a bright room, you’ll squint to see any picture as it all washes out unless you can push a picture to over 1000 nits. With many people having to put TV’s in rooms with large windows, people eschew OLEDs in favor of LCD and mini-LED because they can be twice as bright. Where people have rooms without direct sunlight, OLEDs dominate.

With iPads, take an 11” and a 12.9” outdoors on a bright sunny day and you’ll find it hard to see the screen on the 11”. The 12.9”’s far brighter screen makes it so much easier to see. The 11“ is nearly twice as bright as a Samsung Galaxy Tab, so take one of those OLED tablets outside and you can forget about seeing the screen unshaded. It’s why people were so happy to see 2000 nit screens on the iPhone 14 Pros and Apple Watch Ultra.

If you own a MacBook Pro with Apple Silicon and mini-LED screen, do this. Download Vivid, an app that fools the screen into believing it is displaying HDR all the time (Apple limits the screen to 600 nits when displaying SDR), which pushes sustained brightness from the screen’s max 600 nits to 1000 nits. You can use it in demo mode without paying for it, and it’ll even show you what it looks like in split screen with half of it at 600 nits and the other half at 1000 nits. It’s night and day to my eyes. Once you’ve got 1000 nits sustained (1600 nits max), it’s tough to go back. The app is completely safe if you’re worried about sustained 1000 nits. The screen is designed for it. Mini-LED can’t burn-in.
 
Yes, it’s just your eyes. Even with my repeatedly operated-on bad eyes, I can see vast differences in brightness. If you’ve paid any attention to the TV industry, all people talk about is brightness and the lack of it in OLED. Starting with last year’s QD-OLED screens and this year with LG’s MLA technology, OLED screens are starting to leap ahead in brightness with the current 2023 models promising 2000 nits (I don’t believe it, but we’ll see). Mini-LED models have reached 2400-3000 nits in some versions. Brightness is especially important in bright room situations. Not everyone has a dedicated movie theater that is completely dark, which is where traditional WOLED works great. In a pitch black room, even 200 nits can seem bright. But in a bright room, you’ll squint to see any picture as it all washes out unless you can push a picture to over 1000 nits. With many people having to put TV’s in rooms with large windows, people eschew OLEDs in favor of LCD and mini-LED because they can be twice as bright. Where people have rooms without direct sunlight, OLEDs dominate.

With iPads, take an 11” and a 12.9” outdoors on a bright sunny day and you’ll find it hard to see the screen on the 11”. The 12.9”’s far brighter screen makes it so much easier to see. The 11“ is nearly twice as bright as a Samsung Galaxy Tab, so take one of those OLED tablets outside and you can forget about seeing the screen unshaded. It’s why people were so happy to see 2000 nit screens on the iPhone 14 Pros and Apple Watch Ultra.

If you own a MacBook Pro with Apple Silicon and mini-LED screen, do this. Download Vivid, an app that fools the screen into believing it is displaying HDR all the time (Apple limits the screen to 600 nits when displaying SDR), which pushes sustained brightness from the screen’s max 600 nits to 1000 nits. You can use it in demo mode without paying for it, and it’ll even show you what it looks like in split screen with half of it at 600 nits and the other half at 1000 nits. It’s night and day to my eyes. Once you’ve got 1000 nits sustained (1600 nits max), it’s tough to go back. The app is completely safe if you’re worried about sustained 1000 nits. The screen is designed for it. Mini-LED can’t burn-in.
I have a 55” LG OLED TV from 2020 and it has large windows either side of it letting alot of natural light in. I have no issues with brightness and not seeing the image. No need for a darkened room.

Also currently have no issues viewing my 13 Pro Max in direct sunlight.

I don’t have any issues view LCD or OLED outside in general.

What also needs consideration is that Apple are known to have many screen variances in the same product line. Some iPhone and iPads are warmer or cooler but no two screens are the same compared side to side. They have been very poor in this regard. My iPhone 12 Pro Max was pink compared to my iPad.
 


Apple's 2024 OLED iPad Pro models could be vastly more expensive than its existing iPad Pros and even more costly than some MacBook Pros currently on sale, claims a new Korean report.

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According to industry sources cited by The Elec, Apple is already considering its pricing strategy for next year's two OLED iPad Pro models, with current estimates starting at $1,500 and $1,800 for the 11-inch and 13-inch models, respectively.

That would make the 11-inch device over 80 percent more expensive than the existing 11-inch ‌iPad Pro‌ with LED Liquid Retina display, which starts at $799, and the 13-inch model over 60% more expensive than the current 12.9-inch ‌iPad Pro‌ with mini-LED Liquid Retina XDR display, which starts at $1,099.

The OLED price estimates even eclipse the price of some MacBook Pro models currently on sale. For example, the 13.6-inch MacBook Air with M2 chip starts at $1,199, while the 13-inch MacBook Pro with M2 chip starts at $1,299.

According to the Korean-language report, the industry response to the price hikes is divided: Some consider them a reasonable increase given the switch to superior OLED technology that will attract Apple's loyal customer base, while others believe the prices will make it difficult to maintain sales because iPads lack the replacement demand of iPhones.

The main reason for the increases is said to be the large proportion of material costs taken up by OLED panel procurement. Apple is currently believed to be in discussion with Samsung and LG Display about the price of supplying the panels, the specifications for which will require the use of production processes that have not been combined before for OLED panels of the required size.


According to The Elec, the supply price of OLED panels for existing 10-inch devices is around $100 to $150, whereas the outlay for the processes involved in making Apple's required 11-inch and 13-inch panels may be closer to $270 and $350, respectively.

The report notes that current OLED iPad Pro price estimates from the industry could change in the future. The OLED panels scheduled to be delivered by LG and Samsung are still in the development stage, so the panel prices have not been finalized.

Still, there are reportedly concerns among panel suppliers Samsung, LG, and BOE about how Apple's OLED iPad Pro prices and shipment forecasts could negatively affect profits and production line investment. Samsung is set to invest in eighth-generation OLED production lines, which should "theoretically" result in lower-costing panels, but they have already been earmarked for Apple's future OLED MacBooks, which are also expected to debut in 2024.

Article Link: Next Year's OLED iPad Pro Models Could Have These Eye-Watering Starting Prices
You need to make some corrections amigo. In the above details you’ve mentioned about the OLED displays for existing iPad Pro models cost $100 and $150 respectively. None of The existing models come with OLED.

(According to The Elec, the supply price of OLED panels for existing 10-inch devices is around $100 to $150, whereas the outlay for the processes involved in making Apple's required 11-inch and 13-inch panels may be closer to $270 and $350, respectively).

on the hunch, upgrading the display alone and increasing the price of the device in such a drastic way is not justifiable, unless the device will perform the same tasks as the full desktop/laptop computers. just like the Microsoft’s Surface Pro lineup.

There’s nothing wrong with the current display. Apple needs to focus on the more important things, not on the poppycock.

need to incorporate the fully functional operating system. The device’s hardware components are equivalent to the full compute’s capacity, but the operating system is lame and it does not correspond its hardware specifications.
 
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they stated a price increase of $700
the actual increase is $200, and in fact $100 considering the new model start with 256GB.
 
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