NextGeniPhone: Hardware News & Rumors Thread.
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macrumors P6
Fixed. People are morons.
True.. but Apple hype their products up so much, this is what they have to expect.
lftrghtparadigm
macrumors 6502
No, it's to get everyone with 8 gigs to upgrade NOW, as they are clearing house of all 16 gig 3Gs. Stock is low or out, everywhere.
QCassidy352
macrumors G5
um, yes. there will be.
milani
macrumors 68000
There has only been one new iPhone in the past year (the OG to the 3G). The original product release doesn't count and you know it, lol.
/your post.
t0mat0
macrumors 603
There will be. To think that they won't is ludicrous.
You might squabble about what counts as a hardware change - but basically, if they touch anything inside to update/add, then it's a change.
Seeing as video is being pushed and there are major hints - a sign
Seeing that Apple is doing a 1 year cycle on hardware for iPhone - a sign
Seeing as there are hints in the OS 3.0 - a sign
It's pretty damn untenable to say there won't be a new model - would need a very good argument, with backing. Even if they went with minimal - you'd see updates on GB size for example, model shape /styling change etc.
You might squabble about what counts as a hardware change - but basically, if they touch anything inside to update/add, then it's a change.
Seeing as video is being pushed and there are major hints - a sign
Seeing that Apple is doing a 1 year cycle on hardware for iPhone - a sign
Seeing as there are hints in the OS 3.0 - a sign
It's pretty damn untenable to say there won't be a new model - would need a very good argument, with backing. Even if they went with minimal - you'd see updates on GB size for example, model shape /styling change etc.
uiop.
macrumors 68020
Yeah it does. Both iPhones were released in the summer, so I don't know why Apple would differentiate from this trend.
Mintin8
macrumors 6502a
True, Seems silly as the original iPhone users are coming to the end of their contract by now. Apple will want their business again and surely the people who have stuck with the original iPhone this long will want another one. The 3G users may go for one just now but i have the feeling a lot will wait for a while unless the upgrade is amazing (hopefully will be). TBH Apple must surely release a new iPhone in the summer. There's a lot of evidence to prove that a new iPhone is coming out so i just hope that it's all true!
uiop.
macrumors 68020
Will:
- A ventral camera for video calls is still missing. Therefore, the iPhone is still not a full-featured 3G phone.
- The dorsal camera's resolution is falling behind. There are now phones that can replace a compact camera with 5 Mpx resolution (or more) and xenon flash.
- Those who bought the first iPhone will be wanting an upgrade when their 24 month contract is up.
- A ventral camera for video calls is still missing. Therefore, the iPhone is still not a full-featured 3G phone.
- The dorsal camera's resolution is falling behind. There are now phones that can replace a compact camera with 5 Mpx resolution (or more) and xenon flash.
- Those who bought the first iPhone will be wanting an upgrade when their 24 month contract is up.
Didn't MacRumors post something a while ago about the iPod Touch getting faster processor speeds than the iPhone 3g? If this is correct, then isn't it realistic to think that the iPhone would at least be upgraded to that specification? And then likely beyond?
As pointed out before, Apple tends to upgrade their products every year. Thinking they won't do the same with the iPhone is silly.
As pointed out before, Apple tends to upgrade their products every year. Thinking they won't do the same with the iPhone is silly.
uiop.
macrumors 68020
I really think/hope Apple will increase the actual performance of the phone. Surely more RAM at least.
=MuLti-CeLL=
macrumors 6502a
The only thing I really think is "silly" is the belief that there won't be one announced or even released this summer and that we will see one closer to Christmas.
iPhone in June. iPod's in September. Now the iPods in September are pretty close to the holidays but I can't see them waiting until later on in the year with the iPhone.
I'm gonna guess announcement at WWDC in June with a release mid-July or even early August.
t0mat0
macrumors 603
let's not forget that the iPods might have an interesting change this year...
The touch might get the BT for HR monitor etc - but the nano could be a better product for it in a way, in terms of exercising with an iPod.
milani
macrumors 68000
It's odd that no one seems to believe that 3.0 OS might be the only update the iPhone gets. It fits with the yearly update scheme that Apple supposedly revealed, and it would ensure the iPhone remains competitive for at least another year. I don't really understand how or why Apple needs to upgrade the hardware on the iPhone this year. At best, you might be looking at a storage capacity increase (32GB), but beyond that there is really nothing that the iPhone needs right now (note the clever use of the word need, as in that which necessitates huge expenditures on Apple's part). But please, someone enlighten me...
=MuLti-CeLL=
macrumors 6502a
Good Post t0mat0.
I think there is alot of improvements that could be made to the phone. Not that it's not good enough, obviously with millions sold, but there is always room to grow.
I've heard several people claim that thier iPhones crash a lot, crash during safari, crash during games, crash with iPod open, etc etc etc, if you ask me the iPhone could use some more RAM and a slightly upgraded proccessor. There, I guess that's a "need".
With the iPhone, I don't think it comes down to what everyone really needs as much as what people want. A cell phone. A portable internet device. Well there are several OTHER phones/smartphones that fill those needs. People want the iPhone because it offers 'more' and it's user interface over other phones. People have gotten spoiled and want more in a sense. We all know what technologies are out there and available and we just want the iPhone to be the best it can be. And we want to see that in June! Is that too much to ask?
=MuLti-CeLL=
macrumors 6502a
Oh and no disrespect but...
I find it odd that you are one of the only ones that seem to think nothing new is coming other than a software upgrade.
Out of ALL the rumors, findings and just about EVERY other site out there is expecting a new iPhone...you still don't believe! Why wouldn't there be?
That's cool though, you may be the one, of few, that will be laughing in ALL of our faces when it's all said and done.
milani
macrumors 68000
Oh and no disrespect but...
I find it odd that you are one of the only ones that seem to think nothing new is coming other than a software upgrade.
Out of ALL the rumors, findings and just about EVERY other site out there is expecting a new iPhone...you still don't believe! Why wouldn't there be?
That's cool though, you may be the one, of few, that will be laughing in ALL of our faces when it's all said and done.
For what it's worth, I was also one of a few people who called everyone on the nano rumor. I figure that most people who probably don't believe there will be a brand new iPhone this spring probably don't even bother posting about, so I speak on their behalf as much as my own.
And I don't at all plan on laughing at anyone if I'm right or not - because this is Apple and we all know that Apple often does things for no other reason than they decided that is what they want to do. I just don't buy that Apple has the money or the time to release a game changing smart phone every single year. I think that there will always be upgrades, but I consider 3.0 OS update to be substantial enough to fit the bill for this year, that's for sure. I can't think of another smart phone that has ever had such a substantial software update, because 3.0 has basically doubled the functionality of the iPhone, which is a pretty nice gift for those of us who bought our iPhone almost a year ago now (nevermind those original adopters).
And as to your previous post, it might actually be too much to ask. For this entire time (prior to 3.0) basic functionality was too much to ask for. Based on how long it took Apple to add things like copy paste, SMS forwarding, and MMS, the likelihood that they'll roll out the red carpet for a new iPhone that has all the features we're still missing in the same breath seems more than a little unlikely to me.
Eso
macrumors 68020
IIRC the verdict on the iPhone Nano was better than 50%/50% voting against.
What then do you imagine they do with their time and money, other than work on improving their products? No one is talking about "game changing" anyways. Steve Jobs, when introducing the iPhone, talked about how one would be lucky to bring one game-changer to production in a career and how with Apple he has been lucky to bring a few (the iPhone being the latest). On the contrary, all we are talking about is an upgrade.
Double? Hardly. The only completely new feature is uh... spotlight, cut-and-paste? Everything else just expands inexplicably crippled functionality to that which is standard on other phones of the same class. Adding landscape orientation to SMS and Mail is substastial? How long did it take, I wonder, about 20 minutes? (check 15:46).
Ah, here is the problem. You seem to be under the impression that Apple is doing all current iPhone users a favor. Apple didn't say, "Hey, you know all those people that bought the iPhone despite not having such-and-such features? Why don't we just add them finally?!"
All the enhanced features of iPhone software 3.0 are to get the customers that didn't buy the iPhone in the first place because it lacked said features. A new model should address some of the hardware constraints, such as the camera, as well as focus the attention of the average consumer who is not going to be aware of a software upgrade, or if so, it's significance.
=MuLti-CeLL=
macrumors 6502a
Ok, I take back what I said in regards to the iPhone being ALL it CAN be in the next model.
I'm really not expecting a HUGE upgrade. But I am expecting some sort of upgrade be it capacity bump, more RAM or just a mp or two bump in the camera (2mp? C'mon, SO 2 years ago!)