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Hey everyone. Just got confirmation from a google rep over the phone that they no longer have a restocking fee. I know I wanted to know and a few others as well.
 
hey guys quick question. im moving from iphone to nexus 5 + prepaid service. how can i tether my data ( i think i get 2.5gbs of lte on straight talk). are there stock apps i can tether with to an ipad ? most importanly something quick and accessible on home screen.

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Case recommendation. ~$10 shipped. The wallet form factor is excellent for me, possibly for you. Colors are black, mint, and navy. The leather one I have for my N4 is extraordinary; I'll use this until they make one of those for the N5. Comes with a screen protector. Not eligible for Prime, but it's cheap.

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I have a very similar case for my Nexus 4 and have just ordered one of the ones you posted in black.
 
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Thanks for the heads up. I just grabbed the front/back as well. Code is Spook80 if anyone is wondering.

Sweet, TYVM. Just ordered a full body kit for my N5 and my ip5s, for $4.40 free shipping, very nice.

I've used these before, they are very rubbery and IMO not great for the screen, but they are awesome for the back because they are very grippy.
 
everything is a standard upgrade now, we are entering pc boredom

Exactly my point!!! Nobody else seems to get it.

They are trying to incorporate value into the argument, which I never debated. Or the objective screen size difference in the iPhone 6.

None of that is part of the argument. All I did was simply state that this is an upgrade just like the GS3 to GS4. Some decent hardware improvements for the same price to the consumer. It's so simple, but people keep tacking on more stuff into the argument that I never discussed.

Sure, an iPhone screen enlargement is over due. But you are making the perceived difference in upgrade too objective. What matters here is how the upgrade is perceived to its respective community.

GS4? Respective community liked it. Didn't go bonkers over it, but it was a nice upgrade.
IPhone 5s?
Respective community liked it. Didn't go bonkers over it, but it was a nice upgrade.
Nexus 5? Respective community liked it. Didn't go bonkers over it, but it was a nice upgrade.

Notice a pattern?

Note, this response is for everyone quoted below as well.




Jog my memory, the point was that it was a standard update compared to what will be the iPhone 6 update, right? You mentioned something along the lines of how that'll be bigger.

But isn't that sort of a given? It'll be bigger because Apple doesn't offer much else (we may finally get a larger screen in a new design package -- this is what people are praying for, and it'll be mind blowing only because it'll finally open up more impacting options from Apple), and conversely, Android phone updates will be more "standard" because there's already so much out there to cover the bases (in fact, we're getting into niche features now).

(Side point: some may argue these updates aren't very "standard" though compared to what Apple is doing. I mean, the GS3 to 4 got a larger screen and more pixel count and a redesign. Ditto the Nexus 4 to 5. Is that really "standard" compared to the iPhone upgrades? I don't know...)

I don't think anyone is contending about what the Nexus 5 updates are. You can probably save yourself the trouble of reiterating that point.







What's special then, I wonder?

And if Android OEM's latest hardware updates aren't special, what would you then consider Apple's hardware updates to the iPhone? Aren't they even more standard, so to speak?

Even if you want to presume the iPhone 6 will offer a larger screen [finally], wouldn't that only be special in Apple's world?

Again, what's "special"? Maybe this needs clarification before you judge others for getting or not getting something. Or continue. : shrug :







But that's just opinion, not fact. What if the co processor on the N5 that functions when the phone is asleep is a huge upgrade to the way I conduct my business and use my phone? (It is) What if KitKat itself is a huge upgrade for me? (It is) (the S4 doesn't have it yet). What if the phone always being in listening mode is a huge upgrade for me? (It is) I don't recall what you particularly mentioned as "upgrades" which would qualify as being more than average, but I think you mentioned waterproof and battery life. For me the waterproofing doesn't matter in the least, so it's not a significant upgrade for me, just opinion same as yours. Battery life to me IS an upgrade, it's got 17 hours of talk time, versus for example 10 hours on the iphone 5s, that's a huge upgrade for me and the way I use my phone on a daily basis, but once again you see how that is opinion on whether it is a great upgrade, or just average. How about LTE, jeez I'd say that's a pretty hefty upgrade from the N4.

Edit: I'd be curious what you feel are "worthy" upgrades to a phone that would meet your strict criteria of being above average?

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Yeah, that's the problem, "special" can be qualified by anything and anybody. If the iphone 6 has a 5" screen it will be "special" to a hell of a lot of people, but is it really really "special" when 5" screens have been around for years? Well maybe, if someone needs iOS but they also want a larger screen, or maybe not if someone doesn't need one.

It's a very opinionated subject, which is totally OK, but not when it gets pushed as "fact".
 
Need some guesses from you guys. So here's my logic. Since best buy is named as an official retail partner this time around I'm thinking they are going to sell the Nexus 5 for the same $349 price. They currently sell the Nexus 7 for the same $229 so why would they change for the phone? What say you??
 
People who plan on keeping their iPhones alongside this phone, how are you going to do it? Both phones in one pocket?

One as an iPod touch, the Nexus 5 as the daily driver? And if you need the other, tether? Or what?

I just refuse to sell my jailbroken iPhone 5 with a good screen. I know if I ever want it again, even if I love the Nexus 5, it'll be a bad feeling to miss it.
 
Need some guesses from you guys. So here's my logic. Since best buy is named as an official retail partner this time around I'm thinking they are going to sell the Nexus 5 for the same $349 price. They currently sell the Nexus 7 for the same $229 so why would they change for the phone? What say you??

I would agree 100% with that statement.
 
People who plan on keeping their iPhones alongside this phone, how are you going to do it? Both phones in one pocket?

One as an iPod touch, the Nexus 5 as the daily driver? And if you need the other, tether? Or what?

I just refuse to sell my jailbroken iPhone 5 with a good screen. I know if I ever want it again, even if I love the Nexus 5, it'll be a bad feeling to miss it.

Using the nexus 5 as a daily driver for the allotted return period leaving my iPhone at home. If, when I'm nearing the end of the return period I want to use the iPhone, I return the nexus and start using the iPhone again. I see no point in using two devices.
 
Using the nexus 5 as a daily driver for the allotted return period leaving my iPhone at home. If, when I'm nearing the end of the return period I want to use the iPhone, I return the nexus and start using the iPhone again. I see no point in using two devices.

Probably better off reselling locally to get all your money back, as opposed to losing out on shipping costs, if you were to go that route.
 
Exactly my point!!! Nobody else seems to get it.

They are trying to incorporate value into the argument, which I never debated. Or the objective screen size difference in the iPhone 6.

None of that is part of the argument. All I did was simply state that this is an upgrade just like the GS3 to GS4. Some decent hardware improvements for the same price to the consumer. It's so simple, but people keep tacking on more stuff into the argument that I never discussed.

Sure, an iPhone screen enlargement is over due. But you are making the perceived difference in upgrade too objective. What matters here is how the upgrade is perceived to its respective community.

GS4? Respective community liked it. Didn't go bonkers over it, but it was a nice upgrade.
IPhone 5s?
Respective community liked it. Didn't go bonkers over it, but it was a nice upgrade.
Nexus 5? Respective community liked it. Didn't go bonkers over it, but it was a nice upgrade.

Notice a pattern?

Note, this response is for everyone quoted below as well.

It's still subjective and opinion, very possibly an opinion that many or few share, but still opinion.

I've asked you before, what feature would you consider to be an above average upgrade. Which phone(s) have progressed to the next series and had a feature like this? I'm still curious what you think would qualify in terms of your argument. I may be a bit old fashioned here, but "go bonkers over it" doesn't exactly equal a focus group, survey, etc etc. It's pretty obvious that iphone fans go "bonkers" over every iteration of the iphone, and some of those iterations are pretty unsubstantial so I'm not sure community response is necessarily a valid metric even if it did have any logic to it.

At the end of the day it's not that I don't agree with you, yes we are in an era of diminishing returns, but I think that has been with us for the past 2 cycles at least. What has been so earth shattering on smartphones in the past 2 cycles? Arguably since the iphone 1 really.
 
Personally LTE and a better camera are more than minor upgrades. Not to mention on my Nexus four I can see the digitizer underneath the screen in the sunlight making the screen difficult to see
 
People who plan on keeping their iPhones alongside this phone, how are you going to do it? Both phones in one pocket?

One as an iPod touch, the Nexus 5 as the daily driver? And if you need the other, tether? Or what?

I just refuse to sell my jailbroken iPhone 5 with a good screen. I know if I ever want it again, even if I love the Nexus 5, it'll be a bad feeling to miss it.

I'm not sure. Each phone has its uses. The iphone is an incredible phone/personal assistant first, but its screen is kind of useless for things like internet, gaming, etc so it is my go to phone for business calls and days when I don't need the internet or a large screen. Android is horrible as a personal assistant and kind of crappy for a phone, but the N5 has such a nice screen, and Android is a blast to play around with so I may use it those days I want to goof off or if I have to leave my tablet at home.
 
It's still subjective and opinion, very possibly an opinion that many or few share, but still opinion.

I've asked you before, what feature would you consider to be an above average upgrade. Which phone(s) have progressed to the next series and had a feature like this? I'm still curious what you think would qualify in terms of your argument. I may be a bit old fashioned here, but "go bonkers over it" doesn't exactly equal a focus group, survey, etc etc. It's pretty obvious that iphone fans go "bonkers" over every iteration of the iphone, and some of those iterations are pretty unsubstantial so I'm not sure community response is necessarily a valid metric even if it did have any logic to it.

At the end of the day it's not that I don't agree with you, yes we are in an era of diminishing returns, but I think that has been with us for the past 2 cycles at least. What has been so earth shattering on smartphones in the past 2 cycles? Arguably since the iphone 1 really.

The only feature I would consider to be truly earth shattering would be true wireless charging. The kind that doesn't need to be placed on a pad and can just charge while in range.
 
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