Exactly my point!!! Nobody else seems to get it.
They are trying to incorporate value into the argument, which I never debated. Or the objective screen size difference in the iPhone 6.
None of that is part of the argument. All I did was simply state that this is an upgrade just like the GS3 to GS4. Some decent hardware improvements for the same price to the consumer. It's so simple, but people keep tacking on more stuff into the argument that I never discussed.
Sure, an iPhone screen enlargement is over due. But you are making the perceived difference in upgrade too objective. What matters here is how the upgrade is perceived to its respective community.
GS4? Respective community liked it. Didn't go bonkers over it, but it was a nice upgrade.
IPhone 5s?
Respective community liked it. Didn't go bonkers over it, but it was a nice upgrade.
Nexus 5? Respective community liked it. Didn't go bonkers over it, but it was a nice upgrade.
Notice a pattern?
Note, this response is for everyone quoted below as well.
Straus, let's be honest, you were making more than just the simple point that this is an average upgrade. Also, for what it's worth, you were the one that compared it to the iPhone first saying essentially that the iPhone upgrade from 5S to 6 will be bigger. I guess this is agreeable but it's only bigger because Apple doesn't offer more options -- this is something that can't simply be ignored as if the hardware playing field is leveled on both camps. Apple is way behind on a number of things; that's why the 5S to the 6 (presumably, we don't even really know) will be a bigger deal. If you're going to bring the iPhone into the conversation, this can't be ignored.
Then you also said:
There is a lot more this phone could have added. Larger battery and better camera being the most obvious. And of course having a water and dust resistant phone would be amazing.
And this:
My point was that it is an average upgrade. There are quite a few things they still could have added. It is quite similar to an S3 to S4 upgrade.
So you can't be too surprised when people take your "Nexus 5 is an average update" posts somewhat in a negative light. The above posts sound like you're disappointed. That adds context to "this is an average update." (Not to mention your complaints about stock Android and the Nexus line in general from all the previous other posts...)
If you're disappointed, you're disappointed -- that's fine. Just saying, don't act so shocked people are taking your posts that way. And like others have said, if it's so obvious that this is your average run of the mill update, why feel the need to point out the obvious, if not to say something about it? You keep pointing out there's this pattern -- I guess that's nice of you to point out the obvious, but why are you so surprised when people ask "so what?" or "what's your point [if not to make a negative assertion]?" These specs have been known for a long time, and, if the pattern is that smartphones are "averaging" out per 2013 standards, why are you disappointed? Doesn't that mean everything is more or less on point?
You also keep telling us the price/value is irrelevant. I guess if you want to make it irrelevant, you can, but to everyone else, what the Nexus 5 is offering for the price
is one of the biggest features of a Nexus phone. If you want to talk solely about hardware progression, that's fine, but the conversation is pretty moot -- no one is contending what the upgrades are. However, when there's a negative context (which you may not be aware of, that's fair), people will call it out and start asking questions. Don't pretend like this is all going over our heads or something -- maybe you're not aware of your own words? Is that possible? Just throwing it out there.
EDIT: Straus, now that I think about it, isn't the G2 the better suited phone for you? Less bezel, that extra .25" screen dedicated to the soft keys, huge battery...? Just curious, why are you getting the N5 instead? Stock Android?
