Nexus 5

[Lloydbm41]

One simple thing the iPhone has going for it, at least among my friends, is the amount if people who have one. That in turn leads to the usage of iMessage and eliminates the size restrictions of mms messages. It also eliminates the iPhone charger v micro USB proliferation debate. The final thing that tips the iPhone for me is interaction with peripherals like Bluetooth systems. For me iPhone does this much better.

Size restrictions of mms messages and USB chargers? How does the number of iOS users alter what a carrier does? Outside of the US and UK, the number of iOS users is small (almost negligible in fact), so are you just referring to the US here? Because the entire world uses USB (which is roughly 8 out of every 10 phones sold worldwide) to charge their phones and tablets. While I may agree with you that the Apple charging method is superior, it is proprietary and used on very few devices in the world. The EU, China and Russia may force Apple into changing their chargers in the future. I have heard that legislation is being thrown around with regard to this.

As for BT, both iOS and Android are using BT LE 4.0 now and A2DP has been in both OS's for quite some time. The only difference is, the Android OS allows for all peripherals like gamepads, mice, etc, while Apple does not, unless you jailbreak.

Maybe I am just failing to understand what you are getting at?? Or maybe you haven't used Android and know it can do these sort of things?

 

[JH-]

Size restrictions of mms messages and USB chargers? How does the number of iOS users alter what a carrier does? Outside of the US and UK, the number of iOS users is small (almost negligible in fact), so are you just referring to the US here? Because the entire world uses USB (which is roughly 8 out of every 10 phones sold worldwide) to charge their phones and tablets. While I may agree with you that the Apple charging method is superior, it is proprietary and used on very few devices in the world. The EU, China and Russia may force Apple into changing their chargers in the future. I have heard that legislation is being thrown around with regard to this.

As for BT, both iOS and Android are using BT LE 4.0 now and A2DP has been in both OS's for quite some time. The only difference is, the Android OS allows for all peripherals like gamepads, mice, etc, while Apple does not, unless you jailbreak.

Maybe I am just failing to understand what you are getting at?? Or maybe you haven't used Android and know it can do these sort of things?

Well, in my post I said among my friends. I am well aware that micro USB is the standard across the world. No debating that at all. I'm just saying in my personal, notice I said personal, experience it is easier to find a 30 pin connector or lightning cable than a micro USB charger.

The number of iOS users doesn't alter what a carrier does but it does alter the messaging aspect of the phones. It allows me to send larger files through iMessage than I would be able to over SMS. I admit one solution to that is an alternative messaging application but none of my friends will install alternate messaging apps because they see no use for it. Once again a personal experience, not indicative of the whole world.

I completely agree with you that the technology inside androids and iPhones is similar, often with android having an advantage in cutting edge tech. However, for some reason, it doesn't seem to work well. For example, the Nexus 5 that I just purchased doesn't work without tweaking multiple settings with my LG tone+ headphones. It just stays on max volume. There are other instances with in car systems that I've had.

I also will acknowledge that all of these problems are fixable with a little effort. It's just nice to have things that work off the bat. I also fully acknowledge that you can do more with android. For example while I had my Nexus I received a file via Bluetooth and then uploaded it to Dropbox. I could not have done that with an iPhone. Overall they are both great platforms and I will continue to try both. I'm actually looking for Black Friday deals on a Motorola X. For now though iOS suits me better.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

An old friend, who likes to sit on the couch....again

What the hell happened to him?

 

[Lloydbm41]

I'm actually looking for Black Friday deals on a Motorola X.

You and me both. I have the Nexus 5, but there is something about the Moto X that draws me to it. It's almost inexplicable. Last time I had a Motorola (in fact, I still have it, is the Razr V3 flip phone. That was an awesome phone.)

 

[Fanaticalism]

Quick Question for those of you using Hangouts for SMS. How does it behave with group chats with those that that a blend between iOS and droid devices?

 

[animalx]

Quick Question for those of you using Hangouts for SMS. How does it behave with group chats with those that that a blend between iOS and droid devices?

It just comes in like any other group chat would.

Side Note:
I hate those group chats, because you cannot remove yourself from them.

 

[Fanaticalism]

So if you respond, your texts keep themselves within the group chat, or do the recipients recieve them outside the thread?

Not all text messaging apps on Android behave in the same manner, which is why I ask.

And I'm with you on group texts, but we use them occasionally.

 

[spinedoc77]

One simple thing the iPhone has going for it, at least among my friends, is the amount if people who have one. That in turn leads to the usage of iMessage and eliminates the size restrictions of mms messages. It also eliminates the iPhone charger v micro USB proliferation debate. The final thing that tips the iPhone for me is interaction with peripherals like Bluetooth systems. For me iPhone does this much better.

That's another thing, I hate the micro USB charger connection with a passion. You have to make sure its right side up and it seems kind of delicate and precise to plug it in. The lightning connector can be plugged in either way and is very sturdy. I also highly agree on the Bluetooth interaction, that was a major part of my decision.

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Size restrictions of mms messages and USB chargers? How does the number of iOS users alter what a carrier does? Outside of the US and UK, the number of iOS users is small (almost negligible in fact), so are you just referring to the US here? Because the entire world uses USB (which is roughly 8 out of every 10 phones sold worldwide) to charge their phones and tablets. While I may agree with you that the Apple charging method is superior, it is proprietary and used on very few devices in the world. The EU, China and Russia may force Apple into changing their chargers in the future. I have heard that legislation is being thrown around with regard to this.

As for BT, both iOS and Android are using BT LE 4.0 now and A2DP has been in both OS's for quite some time. The only difference is, the Android OS allows for all peripherals like gamepads, mice, etc, while Apple does not, unless you jailbreak.

Maybe I am just failing to understand what you are getting at?? Or maybe you haven't used Android and know it can do these sort of things?

Bluetooth implementation is goofy. Just a few examples, when using Google now half the time it responds in the BT headset, the other half on the phone speaker. On a BT headset notification/confirmation chimes are VERY loud, but sound volume is fairly low, so you end up with a blown ear drum when, for example, making a phone call using the voice dialer. You can't select Google now activating with the BT headset button. While in navigation if you are on a BT headset phone call the navi will continue to blare GPS commands thru the headset while you are talking, at a higher volume than the call no less. Just a few of the BT issues I've ran into, and that's only dealing with the headset.

 

[JH-]

So if you respond, your texts keep themselves within the group chat, or do the recipients recieve them outside the thread?

Not all text messaging apps on Android behave in the same manner, which is why I ask.

And I'm with you on group texts, but we use them occasionally.

Yes to your first sentence.

 

[tbayrgs]

What the hell happened to him?

Short story--he admittedly broke the rules so they banned him, per the forum rules. He's more active now over in the N5 forums at AC if you'd like to touch base with him.

 

[thatgirl87]

That thing looks hideous. Come on, LG, you made better looking phones before.

 

[thadoggfather]

That thing looks hideous. Come on, LG, you made better looking phones before.

Lol I disagree with both statements. I don't think LG has ever made a nicer 'piece of kit' as some people like to call it..

In this case, a piece of Kit Kat

 

[tbayrgs]

Well, in my post I said among my friends. I am well aware that micro USB is the standard across the world. No debating that at all. I'm just saying in my personal, notice I said personal, experience it is easier to find a 30 pin connector or lightning cable than a micro USB charger.

The number of iOS users doesn't alter what a carrier does but it does alter the messaging aspect of the phones. It allows me to send larger files through iMessage than I would be able to over SMS. I admit one solution to that is an alternative messaging application but none of my friends will install alternate messaging apps because they see no use for it. Once again a personal experience, not indicative of the whole world.

I completely agree with you that the technology inside androids and iPhones is similar, often with android having an advantage in cutting edge tech. However, for some reason, it doesn't seem to work well. For example, the Nexus 5 that I just purchased doesn't work without tweaking multiple settings with my LG tone+ headphones. It just stays on max volume. There are other instances with in car systems that I've had.

I also will acknowledge that all of these problems are fixable with a little effort. It's just nice to have things that work off the bat. I also fully acknowledge that you can do more with android. For example while I had my Nexus I received a file via Bluetooth and then uploaded it to Dropbox. I could not have done that with an iPhone. Overall they are both great platforms and I will continue to try both. I'm actually looking for Black Friday deals on a Motorola X. For now though iOS suits me better.

Nearly my sentiments exactly (don't really care about lightning vs. USB), sound very similar to my situation. All of my extended family and most of my friends all use iPhones/iPads so using iDevices is just easier. I hated the limitations imposed in MMS and having to tweak the settings of whatever messaging app I was using. Also, easiest way to message my kids, nieces/nephews on their iDevices. Not saying it's the best, just the best option for me.

Other big gripe for me was Bluetooth. I experiences connectivity problems with various BT devices when using any of the 4 Android phones I used over the past year and a half--not chronic but often enough to be a nuisance. Random disconnects, play back stuttering, call connection irregularities. I'm in the car quite a bit so this impacts me sufficiently enough to be a factor.

I could obviously do more with my HTC One but these two issues (and a few other small issues) impacted my usage enough to make the iPhone more attractive for me.

 

[rillrill]

so i was out in nyc last night and tried taking some photos with my friends. honestly, trying to take a photo with the n5's camera is like taking a photo with a box camera from the 1800's. my friends had to pose way too long, resulting in some of them becoming blurs. artsy, yes. acceptable, hell no. stay away from this phone if you use your camera phone a lot.

 

[mattopotamus]

So if you respond, your texts keep themselves within the group chat, or do the recipients recieve them outside the thread?

Not all text messaging apps on Android behave in the same manner, which is why I ask.

And I'm with you on group texts, but we use them occasionally.

It actually does group chat right and keeps messages within the group.

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so i was out in nyc last night and tried taking some photos with my friends. honestly, trying to take a photo with the n5's camera is like taking a photo with a box camera from the 1800's. my friends had to pose way too long, resulting in some of them becoming blurs. artsy, yes. acceptable, hell no. stay away from this phone if you use your camera phone a lot.

As long as I focus, it does not turn out blurry b.c the OIS

 

[Vegastouch]

Ahhh, back from my timeout. Who would of thought a threeway discussion would lead to a timeout for all three. I think onthecouchagain go banned but dont know why. He didnt attack anyone.

Anyways, since ive been in my timeout, i have ordered a black 32GB Nexus 5. Ordered it on Nov 6th , the day it went from 2-3 weeks to 3-4 weeks and it is still pending. Actually held one at Best Buy yesterday and it feels great. Light and has good size. Hopefully it will get processed soon.

 

[rillrill]

It actually does group chat right and keeps messages within the group.

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As long as I focus, it does not turn out blurry b.c the OIS

yeah. it was focused. then one of my friends moved before it took the picture. this HAS to be a software issue. my iphone 3gs was more consistent than this phone.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

he's more active now over in the n5 forums at ac

ac?

 

[daveathall]

ac?

Android Central.

http://www.androidcentral.com

http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/

Hope that helps.

 

[rockitdog]

Has there been any updates to the Nexu 5 since it's release? Google acknowldged the poor speaker performance so I was wondering if they've sent out that fix yet or have given a date as to when a fix can be expected?

 

[fr4c]

Has there been any updates to the Nexu 5 since it's release? Google acknowldged the poor speaker performance so I was wondering if they've sent out that fix yet or have given a date as to when a fix can be expected?

Nothing yet except for the OTA right out of the box.

There's a "hardware" fix over on XDA that includes disassembly, so if you're curious you can go check it out. I'm holding off on making any hardware modifications myself until I hear something from Google.

 

[milo]

The camera can be fixed via a software update.

That's the theory. The question is whether it will be fixed, how long that fix will take, and to what degree will it be fixed. Slow focus can be made faster, but there's a big difference between a slight improvement and a major one.

I would always buy a device based on how it performs, not on speculation of how it might perform assuming it gets a software update. At the very least for someone who needs a decent camera, it might make sense to wait.

 

[bmac4]

I'm wondering if I would be making a mistake buying the Nexus 5. It does seem to have its flaws, and is obviously not 100% fluid like the iPhone, but it seems to be a great phone for the price.

Paying full-price for the iPhone gives me pause. And I really need a smartphone. I guess I either pony up or go with the Nexus. The big screen does seem nice.

So I have been gone a couple of days, so sorry if this is late.

I truly want to ask what you mean by not being 100% fluid? What does the N5 not do fluid? I am honestly asking.

I feel like iOS 7 has a long ways to go, and is far from done. I think it will be great, but o find it hard to use on my iPhone 5. There are some things I discussed several days back about these concerns. I just don't see the same things in KitKat. This is truly why I ask. What does the iPhone 5s and iOS 7 do so much more fluid than the N5?

 

[TacticalDesire]

That's the theory. The question is whether it will be fixed, how long that fix will take, and to what degree will it be fixed. Slow focus can be made faster, but there's a big difference between a slight improvement and a major one.

I would always buy a device based on how it performs, not on speculation of how it might perform assuming it gets a software update. At the very least for someone who needs a decent camera, it might make sense to wait.

The N5 is just as fluid if not more fluid than the iPhone. The thing flies.

 

[Lloydbm41]

That's the theory. The question is whether it will be fixed, how long that fix will take, and to what degree will it be fixed. Slow focus can be made faster, but there's a big difference between a slight improvement and a major one.

I would always buy a device based on how it performs, not on speculation of how it might perform assuming it gets a software update. At the very least for someone who needs a decent camera, it might make sense to wait.

Found out today that Google has been building a new camera app from the ground up, but was not completed in time for the KitKat release on the N5.