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tbayrgs

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Sorry I meant depth wise. The Droid Maxx is thinner than the Nexus 4 but has a much larger battery.
I would've liked to see a bit larger capacity battery but realistically, didn't expect it to approach the Maxx or any of the larger devices with 3000+ mAh. Matching what's in the S4 (2600 mAh) would've been nice but considering it appears to be smaller, 2300 mAh seems alright. The HTC One only has 2300 mAh and while it's no Droid Maxx, it serves me well enough and I'm a moderate to heavy user.
 

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I'm particularly suspect of LG. I went through too many nexus 4s to trust the first round of nexus 5s. Going to wait after the first batch or two get out first. Had so many microphone/call quality issues with my nexus 4.

I don't mind holding onto my one a little longer.
 

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I would've liked to see a bit larger capacity battery but realistically, didn't expect it to approach the Maxx or any of the larger devices with 3000+ mAh. Matching what's in the S4 (2600 mAh) would've been nice but considering it appears to be smaller, 2300 mAh seems alright. The HTC One only has 2300 mAh and while it's no Droid Maxx, it serves me well enough and I'm a moderate to heavy user.
Google has just had an awful history of battery life on their Nexus phones. I am skeptical that such a minor battery improvement will do much when there are so many new features sucking the power.

I'm particularly suspect of LG. I went through too many nexus 4s to trust the first round of nexus 5s. Going to wait after the first batch or two get out first. Had so many microphone/call quality issues with my nexus 4.

I don't mind holding onto my one a little longer.
You've gotta understand that Google doesn't pay much attention to manufacturing details with the Nexus 4. I am on my 6th one and I still love it. Sure I have had problems, but manufacturing problems should be expected with a phone this cheap. But it has been well worth it for me.
 

tbayrgs

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I'm particularly suspect of LG. I went through too many nexus 4s to trust the first round of nexus 5s. Going to wait after the first batch or two get out first. Had so many microphone/call quality issues with my nexus 4.

I don't mind holding onto my one a little longer.
Yeah, I tell myself the same thing but I know once launch day comes, I'll have a hard time not pulling the trigger. Too little gadget impulse buying control. ;)

I really do like the One though, actually like it a lot, and would like to see what 4.3 offers before moving on to another device. Hopefully they're actually true to their word and have 4.3 out this month.
 

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Apple & Samsung have vast reserves they can pour into manufacturing and logistics. They probably think don't think twice of dumping entire shipments due to quality issues.
While we can agree that Apple and Samsung are on a different field when it comes to logistics (for example, the GS4 was launched on 327 carriers in 155 countries by late April), I'm not so sure they are some small fish, like HTC for manufacturing.

LG makes everything. They have the manufacturing power. There is no reason why they can't make high quality products.

The likes HTC or LG are not so fortunate, especially for Nexus products given Google's razor thin margins. They simply don't have the financial clout to ensure meticulous quality control unfortunately, which certainly dosen't help them in growing their brands.
Wouldn't good quality control actually lower costs, so they don't have to keep replacing them? I really don't buy this argument.

I've noticed this with appliances also. My parents redid their kitchen a few years ago and went with all LG stuff. They cost as much as the Samsung equivalent. They've since been replaced for free by Best Buy's warranty for Samsung appliances because the LG ones kept breaking. (4 repairs entitles you to a replacement)

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You've gotta understand that Google doesn't pay much attention to manufacturing details with the Nexus 4. I am on my 6th one and I still love it. Sure I have had problems, but manufacturing problems should be expected with a phone this cheap. But it has been well worth it for me.
This is such a ridiculous statement. Low price and poorly made are not exclusive with each other.
 
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onthecouchagain

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Yeah, I tell myself the same thing but I know once launch day comes, I'll have a hard time not pulling the trigger. Too little gadget impulse buying control. ;)

I really do like the One though, actually like it a lot, and would like to see what 4.3 offers before moving on to another device. Hopefully they're actually true to their word and have 4.3 out this month.

I've really come to like, even love, my One, especially now that I'm using Swipe Home. However, one sore spot still remains: the camera.

Having said that, everything has to be just right for me to consider the Nexus 5. For the first time, I'm okay with hanging onto my current device to wait for something even better in 2014.

Pricing, storage size, camera, battery life ... these are the main points for me to consider the N5.
 

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Google has just had an awful history of battery life on their Nexus phones. I am skeptical that such a minor battery improvement will do much when there are so many new features sucking the power.
Assuming (and it is an assumption) Google implements things like Active Notifications on the Nexus 5, there's actually less sucking the power. Even if they go with the always listening thing the Moto X has, it's not a battery drainer. The battery stats we're seeing out of the Moto X are showing us that.

One thing I haven't seen people talking about...if they do throw in Active Notifications, that will mean the screen will be AMOLED. While I don't mind AMOLED screens at all, prepare for the deluge of "OMG it's pentile!" posts.
 

onthecouchagain

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Assuming (and it is an assumption) Google implements things like Active Notifications on the Nexus 5, there's actually less sucking the power. Even if they go with the always listening thing the Moto X has, it's not a battery drainer. The battery stats we're seeing out of the Moto X are showing us that.

One thing I haven't seen people talking about...if they do throw in Active Notifications, that will mean the screen will be AMOLED. While I don't mind AMOLED screens at all, prepare for the deluge of "OMG it's pentile!" posts.
It'll be whatever the LG G2 screen is.

I don't foresee Active Notifications for the Nexus. It's a strictly Moto X thing, I predict.
 

KentuckyHouse

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It'll be whatever the LG G2 screen is.

I don't foresee Active Notifications for the Nexus. It's a strictly Moto X thing, I predict.
Actually I'd be OK with the G2 screen, as I love LG screen tech. They're really bright and pop. I actually like the bluish tint they have.

I'd be disappointed if there aren't any Active Notifications, but I understand if it's considered a Moto-only thing. I'm actually really interested in the Moto X after all the glowing real world user reviews I've been seeing. The camera seems to be the weak spot (of course), but it's manageable and the rest of the phone is amazing. I also love how it feels in the hand.

I'm actually looking for a used one right now.
 

tbayrgs

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I've really come to like, even love, my One, especially now that I'm using Swipe Home. However, one sore spot still remains: the camera.

Having said that, everything has to be just right for me to consider the Nexus 5. For the first time, I'm okay with hanging onto my current device to wait for something even better in 2014.

Pricing, storage size, camera, battery life ... these are the main points for me to consider the N5.
Agree almost 100%. Other than the lackluster camera (and it doesn't really bother me much as it suffices for my needs, else I use my dSLR), my annoyances with the One should be resolved with 4.3 and the changes they baked into Sense. In the Nexus, I'm most attracted to the smaller form factor, on screen buttons, wireless charging, improved camera (fingers crossed) and prompt updates. I'm not so concerned about price but if there is at least a 32GB option and it has a good camera and respectable battery life, I'll be taking a long, serious look at it.
 

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Agree almost 100%. Other than the lackluster camera (and it doesn't really bother me much as it suffices for my needs, else I use my dSLR), my annoyances with the One should be resolved with 4.3 and the changes they baked into Sense. In the Nexus, I'm most attracted to the smaller form factor, on screen buttons, wireless charging, improved camera (fingers crossed) and prompt updates. I'm not so concerned about price but if there is at least a 32GB option and it has a good camera and respectable battery life, I'll be taking a long, serious look at it.
Have to agree with all here. Really cannot wait for 4.3 to come to the One.

Historically, as you (or someone else) mentioned, Nexus smartphones always had one or two things missing or plaguing it. So c'mon, Google. I'm hoping they won't hold back on this one. If the Nexus 7 is any indication (which was an upgrade in almost every regard) then i'm hopeful.
 

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Assuming (and it is an assumption) Google implements things like Active Notifications on the Nexus 5, there's actually less sucking the power. Even if they go with the always listening thing the Moto X has, it's not a battery drainer. The battery stats we're seeing out of the Moto X are showing us that.

One thing I haven't seen people talking about...if they do throw in Active Notifications, that will mean the screen will be AMOLED. While I don't mind AMOLED screens at all, prepare for the deluge of "OMG it's pentile!" posts.
I don't imagine Google implementing that. Plus the screen will likely be IPS since the G2 has an IPS screen.

But do not expect much better battery life in this compared to the Nexus 4.

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I wonder if Verizon will get it this time around.
I don't imagine so. The radios in the phone that went through the FCC includes radios for every major carrier in the US, even Sprint I think, but doesn't include anything for Verizon.
 

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I wonder if Verizon will get it this time around.
If the one that passed through the FCC is it...no. The Galaxy Nexus really screwed things up for Verizon when it comes to the Nexus.





I don't imagine Google implementing that. Plus the screen will likely be IPS since the G2 has an IPS screen.

But do not expect much better battery life in this compared to the Nexus 4.


Yeah, if it's IPS, there won't be any Active Notifications. And I'm fine with the battery life. I'm always near a charger.
 

zbarvian

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Yeah, if it's IPS, there won't be any Active Notifications. And I'm fine with the battery life. I'm always near a charger.
I think Active Notifications was a Motorola thing, not a Google thing. I know they're now a subsidiary of Goog, but I'm not sure it's influencing their software.
 

strausd

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Yeah, if it's IPS, there won't be any Active Notifications. And I'm fine with the battery life. I'm always near a charger.
Well hopefully Google doesn't base their battery capacity decision on you normally being near a charger ;)

You can always get active notifications on the Nexus 4 through the Play Store if you want. Sucks a little more power, but still works fairly well.
 

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Mock up and size comparison with the Nexus 4: http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/6/4701258/nexus-5-visualised

I really hope that the back is textured like that (like the Nexus 7). Maybe Google is issuing all Nexus devices this year to have these textured backs. Me likey.

Notice also the dual speakers on the bottom. Similar to the G2.

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Wow, another mock up. People are good. http://androidandme.com/2013/09/smartphones-2/a-closer-look-at-the-lg-nexus-5/

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I must say. This looks really great.

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Google has just had an awful history of battery life on their Nexus phones. I am skeptical that such a minor battery improvement will do much when there are so many new features sucking the power.



You've gotta understand that Google doesn't pay much attention to manufacturing details with the Nexus 4. I am on my 6th one and I still love it. Sure I have had problems, but manufacturing problems should be expected with a phone this cheap. But it has been well worth it for me.
So Google just kept replacing it? I went through two before giving up. I guess that's good customer service if they kept replacing it though.

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Assuming (and it is an assumption) Google implements things like Active Notifications on the Nexus 5, there's actually less sucking the power. Even if they go with the always listening thing the Moto X has, it's not a battery drainer. The battery stats we're seeing out of the Moto X are showing us that.

One thing I haven't seen people talking about...if they do throw in Active Notifications, that will mean the screen will be AMOLED. While I don't mind AMOLED screens at all, prepare for the deluge of "OMG it's pentile!" posts.
I am definitely a bigger fan of LCD over AMOLED but the moto x pleasantly surprised me. It looked great except when scrolling text. It was pretty blurry then. I am a screen snob :)
 

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So Google just kept replacing it? I went through two before giving up. I guess that's good customer service if they kept replacing it though.
So far they have. And since it is under warranty and all have been manufacturer defects, they are obligated to.

I bought mine on day 1. In June when I was about to get my 4th Nexus 4, I told them that, although past the 14 day return period, I would take a refund if they offered. But they said it was too late. Ultimately they are losing more money this way since I will likely get a 7th one as my current one has backlight bleeding problems.
 

THE JUICEMAN

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So far they have. And since it is under warranty and all have been manufacturer defects, they are obligated to.

I bought mine on day 1. In June when I was about to get my 4th Nexus 4, I told them that, although past the 14 day return period, I would take a refund if they offered. But they said it was too late. Ultimately they are losing more money this way since I will likely get a 7th one as my current one has backlight bleeding problems.
Wow. That's pretty bad they still haven't gotten it right. Google has to demand that LG do better than that even if it is a cheap device.
 

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LG means another nexus with a IPS LCD screen so yay!

Better battery life (something like 4 hrs of active usage on hspa/lte, better camera (even matching ip5 or s4 is fine for me, just not suck please) and an LCD screen means I will be trashing my s4 for a nexus this year.

I feel pure android with the right mix of apps from play store can finally make me happy and keep a handset for 20-24 months at least with ease (used to keep my iphones on a 2 year cycle, while changed android handsets every 6 months lol). Plus i no longer want to waste my time on either customization (to make the ugly skins look better) or tweaking/flashing (to debloat skins or run latest pure android) and a decent nexus device would be a great work horse.
 

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I think it's funny we demand so much our of a nexus device. This is good. Hopefully Google can deliver this time on all fronts. The nexus 7 is a good sign Google is willing to go all out. And a good sign flip that they've learned to launch a device properly
 

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Big Nexus phone fan, having owned all four of them so far. But the rumored 2300mAh battery on the Nexus 5 is a turn off, if the G2 has 3000mAh so should the Nexus it's based off.

Oh well, looks like the Note 3 for me, with that huge battery, and high specs, should be very good on battery life, plus it being almost smaller than the Note 2 but with a larger screen is great too.
 

strausd

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I think it's funny we demand so much our of a nexus device. This is good. Hopefully Google can deliver this time on all fronts. The nexus 7 is a good sign Google is willing to go all out. And a good sign flip that they've learned to launch a device properly
Having all the fans expect a lot out of a device keeps Google working hard. Look at Apple, so many of their fans have just become content. And I think it shows in Apples products.
 

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Big Nexus phone fan, having owned all four of them so far. But the rumored 2300mAh battery on the Nexus 5 is a turn off, if the G2 has 3000mAh so should the Nexus it's based off.

Oh well, looks like the Note 3 for me, with that huge battery, and high specs, should be very good on battery life, plus it being almost smaller than the Note 2 but with a larger screen is great too.
I think this is where we need to make a distinction. I don't feel the Nexus 5 is based off the G2 at all...no rear buttons, slightly smaller screen, the cameras and flash are in completely different places on the back of the phone.

This phone seems to be going back to the pre-Nexus 4 way of doing things. A device unto itself, not based off another device in the pipeline. I may be wrong, but isn't the Nexus 4 the only Nexus actually based off another device? I don't think the N1, Nexus S, or Galaxy Nexus had sister phones, correct?

I'm really excited about this Nexus. Hopefully Google doesn't prove me wrong, but I really think this is going to have all the bells and whistles. Big screen, great camera, decent battery. All in a beautiful package that allows you to tinker until your heart's content. You know, since the carriers have all decided to embrace the locked bootloader crap.