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i see many are returning for the reasons i went back to the 3gs, although the nexus was always temp until the next iphone came out.

android does feel like a pc sort to day. it might do alot, but its no where as polished and "easy" as the iphone. the little quirks that android get annoying and ultimately start feeling like the phone experience i used to have prior to the iphone.
 
I know the thread is about the N1, but I got a Desire a couple of days ago, pretty much the same phone...

Battery life for me hasn't been brilliant so far. Not done checks as to what is eating into it, I'll keep an eye on that. I got Advance Task Killer this morning (free version), and I'll check if regular task kills help.

Apart from battery, I like it, a lot. Okay, first few days, it's still shiny and all that, but so far... yeah, it's nice.
 
I know the thread is about the N1, but I got a Desire a couple of days ago, pretty much the same phone...

Battery life for me hasn't been brilliant so far. Not done checks as to what is eating into it, I'll keep an eye on that. I got Advance Task Killer this morning (free version), and I'll check if regular task kills help.

Apart from battery, I like it, a lot. Okay, first few days, it's still shiny and all that, but so far... yeah, it's nice.

how is the touch sceen? are you having issues where it's thinking you're clicking 1/2 an inch below where you are actually clicking?
 
how is the touch sceen? are you having issues where it's thinking you're clicking 1/2 an inch below where you are actually clicking?

I have not had any problems with the touch screen on my N1 whatsoever.

I also get amazing battery life with my N1.

Makes me think there are serious issues with quality control.
 
1) Apple does have a point about multitasking, but I would venture to say that most of the problems people have with the Nexus One are due to
Except apple is adding multitasking to OS4 - provided the rumors are accurate. The issue is people have painted themselves in to a corner logic wise on why multitasking is not needed but will be saying OMG the iPhone multitasking - what a great and innovative idea ;)

The almost daily crashing and touchscreen problems occurred even when I didn't load any non-google apps on the machine. Therefore, I must conclude that multitasking is NOT at the core of the problem since those programs would presumably be well within "Google inter-operability specs".
I've been doing my research as I determine if I want to go the NEXUS route and to be honest, there are enough reports of crashing to give me pause.

2) The disappointment that many people who are switching back from the Nexus One to the iPhone shouldn't be taken as a blindly anti-Google/Apple fanboy kind of hatred.

I think one main issue with the N1 is that you have to buy it sight unseen, so I believe the return rates will be higher for this sole reason. Yeah there will be people who used it and found it inferior to the iPhone for their needs but I believe a lot of people who returned it would not purchased one in the first place had they had the opportunity to use/play with it in a store.
 
This is interesting. Seems many people are having experiences with the N1 that contradict each other. I, like you, have had great battery life on the N1, while others are reporting poor battery life. I am wondering if Google/HTC have quality control issues. That is the only thing that could explain this wide range of conflicting experiences.

At this point I am keeping my N1 and my 3GS. I am very happy with the quality of the N1. Multitasking is a big plus, and there are some apps that I use that have no iPhone equivalent. One example is Locale. It allows me to automatically change settings on my phone based on time of day or location.

The biggest N1 disappointments are the touch screen and keyboard. I have had the touch screen be off by 1/2". I think it may have been due to a keyboard program that I installed. I removed the program, restarted the computer, then was able resume normally. The touch screen scrolling is not as smooth as the iPhone. I can deal with either of the issues.

My phone is stock. My perfect phone would be a combination on the N1 and iphone. Hopefully that will be coming out in June/July from Apple.

The inaccuracy of the touchscreen is what made me return my phone. I didn't mind the crashing every so often, I didn't even mind turning my phone off and on to get service. However, when I touch the screen literally ten different times in the same location, only to have the phone click a link that is no where near my finger press, well that is annoying. The same thing goes for the keyboard, I would press letters and what would come up would be nothing near where I pressed.

Like your phone, mine was stock. I didn't root it, or install any weird applications. I only installed PageOnce, Bejeweled (which force closed every time, even after redownloading), and the Google Buzz widget.
 
My hope is that the touch screen issues are related to bugs in the OS and not with the physical screen. My issues disappeared after doing a reboot of the phone. If this were a physical screen issue I don't think it would clear itself with a reboot of the phone. So I think there is still some hope that this will be fixed with an update to Android. Also supporting this is that those who have rooted their device are not experiencing the same issues.

I have the luxury of keeping both the 3GS and the N1. That gives me time to let deal with the issues on the N1. I still use my iphone, but it sure looks dated. The N1 is my primary phone.

One other item I noticed, which was surprising. Within a couple of days of moving to the N1 my AT&T page indicates I am no longer using an iphone. I was surprised that they would detect it that fast. Now I am curious to how fast they actually pick that up. May switch back and forth over the next few days to see how fast they see the change.

The inaccuracy of the touchscreen is what made me return my phone. I didn't mind the crashing every so often, I didn't even mind turning my phone off and on to get service. However, when I touch the screen literally ten different times in the same location, only to have the phone click a link that is no where near my finger press, well that is annoying. The same thing goes for the keyboard, I would press letters and what would come up would be nothing near where I pressed.

Like your phone, mine was stock. I didn't root it, or install any weird applications. I only installed PageOnce, Bejeweled (which force closed every time, even after redownloading), and the Google Buzz widget.
 
One other item I noticed, which was surprising. Within a couple of days of moving to the N1 my AT&T page indicates I am no longer using an iphone. I was surprised that they would detect it that fast. Now I am curious to how fast they actually pick that up. May switch back and forth over the next few days to see how fast they see the change.

Its quicker than that. The online account access will detect the phone you're using almost immediately. I think it registers once you make a phone call.
 
They have detected my N1 as an ordinary flip phone. Wonder if I could drop my data plan down to a multimedia plan??? I wouldn't do that because I will still be using the iphone periodically, but if you wanted to save a few bucks, it may be a way to do so. At least until they detect it properly.

Its quicker than that. The online account access will detect the phone you're using almost immediately. I think it registers once you make a phone call.
 
They have detected my N1 as an ordinary flip phone. Wonder if I could drop my data plan down to a multimedia plan??? I wouldn't do that because I will still be using the iphone periodically, but if you wanted to save a few bucks, it may be a way to do so. At least until they detect it properly.

Yeah I had to call AT&T like 2 days after I got my Nexus because I had problems sending/receiving MMS messages. When I called they asked for my IMEI number and thats about it. I then rebooted the phone and MMS has been perfect since then.
 
how is the touch sceen? are you having issues where it's thinking you're clicking 1/2 an inch below where you are actually clicking?

No real issues for me - I have a solitaire game that can be a little difficult, I think that is mainly due to my finger blocking the quite small target area though.

Still only a few days, if I have problems I'll try to remember to update this thread.
 
They have detected my N1 as an ordinary flip phone. Wonder if I could drop my data plan down to a multimedia plan??? I wouldn't do that because I will still be using the iphone periodically, but if you wanted to save a few bucks, it may be a way to do so. At least until they detect it properly.

That's because the Nexus One isn't in their system yet. When I called to add the data plan they had to put me on a Blackberry plan because it wouldn't allow them to leave me with an iPhone plan and use a non-iPhone smartphone.
 
Well I just called to switch from my Blackberry plan to another plan for my Nexus One. She didn't even know what a Nexus One was, and gave me the $30 unlimited data and messaging plan. We ran a test call and told me to see if the data work, and she'll call me back. It worked fine (MMS, also). I'll take that $20 drop in price, for now.

Also, rooting you N1 will fix A LOT of problems...including making the sound (speakerphone/volume) wayyy louder!
 
Well I just called to switch from my Blackberry plan to another plan for my Nexus One. She didn't even know what a Nexus One was, and gave me the $30 unlimited data and messaging plan. We ran a test call and told me to see if the data work, and she'll call me back. It worked fine (MMS, also). I'll take that $20 drop in price, for now.

Also, rooting you N1 will fix A LOT of problems...including making the sound (speakerphone/volume) wayyy louder!

How did you make it louder? Is there a app in the marketplace or does it come with a ROM?
 
So far, everything on mine is working. If I get crap, I'll swap the sim to my iphone for a day. Probably really screw them up if I rotated it between phones on a daily basis. If you can't tell, I am not a big AT&T fan.

That's because the Nexus One isn't in their system yet. When I called to add the data plan they had to put me on a Blackberry plan because it wouldn't allow them to leave me with an iPhone plan and use a non-iPhone smartphone.
 
So far, everything on mine is working. If I get crap, I'll swap the sim to my iphone for a day. Probably really screw them up if I rotated it between phones on a daily basis. If you can't tell, I am not a big AT&T fan.

I can tell. Care to explain why?
 
Since going to AT&T 3 1/2 years ago, I drop calls regularly, often multiple times in a day. I frequently travel between Ohio and NY. In NY it is even worse. One trip I dropped every single call (5+ calls) I made in one day. I have swapped out numerous phones, sim cards, nothing changed.

My frustration with AT&T is very simple. They have some serious issues in some areas and they have been slow to address them. From what I am reading, they are now planning on pumping dollars into their infrastructure.


I can tell. Care to explain why?
 
Ouch I was going to buy myself a N1 then im reading about the issues. Best bet is to wait for the desire or the next iPhone. Seems like HTC is making most of there money on the restocking fee on that phone lol.
 
Got my N1 early yesterday, and I must say so far I am very impressed.

-First off, the screen is absolutely gorgeous. Online videos do it no justice. I also think the "not being able to see it in sunlight" issue is somewhat overplayed.
-I have had no troubles with the touchscreen. It is a smidge less responsive than the iPhone, but nothing that I'll be complaining about. I have also followed the tips about hitting the hotkeys towards their upper half and have experienced no troubles.
-The keyboard is a little different than the iPhone's as well. At first I found myself making some mistakes, but by the end of the day I was typing almost as quickly as I was on my iPhone. I'll probably try out Swype eventually.
-I was pleased to see that many of the apps that I used most frequently on my iPhone are also availible in the Android Marketplace (Shazam, Urbanspoon, Movies, etc.)
-The maps/navigation app is infinitely more polished than the iPhone version, as is the Gmail app (of course that only will apply if you have a Gmail address as your primary account; I haven't even looked at the other Mail app)
-The Calendar app is somewhat disappointing, but still suits my purposes.
-NOTIFICATIONS...wow. The N1 owns the current iPhone OS in this area. The notification bar at the top of the screen, as well as the lights on the phone, make for a great alert system.
-Haven't tried putting any music or movies on the phone yet. I have a feeling this is a battle the iPhone may win. I did play a few preinstalled songs on the N1 music player, and while it's not as polished as the iPod on the iPhone, it still does its job well.
-The integration with Google/text/voice searching is seamless throughout the device.
-One cool thing I like is how it automatically syncs Facebook profile pics to your contacts list.
-Oh yeah, this thing is wicked fast.

All in all, after a day or so, I'm loving this phone. Can't wait to get it even more customized to my liking.
 
I'm enjoying mine. Since I went back to the stock keyboard I have had no issues with the touch screen.

Agree with everything you have stated.

Got my N1 early yesterday, and I must say so far I am very impressed.

-First off, the screen is absolutely gorgeous. Online videos do it no justice. I also think the "not being able to see it in sunlight" issue is somewhat overplayed.
-I have had no troubles with the touchscreen. It is a smidge less responsive than the iPhone, but nothing that I'll be complaining about. I have also followed the tips about hitting the hotkeys towards their upper half and have experienced no troubles.
-The keyboard is a little different than the iPhone's as well. At first I found myself making some mistakes, but by the end of the day I was typing almost as quickly as I was on my iPhone. I'll probably try out Swype eventually.
-I was pleased to see that many of the apps that I used most frequently on my iPhone are also availible in the Android Marketplace (Shazam, Urbanspoon, Movies, etc.)
-The maps/navigation app is infinitely more polished than the iPhone version, as is the Gmail app (of course that only will apply if you have a Gmail address as your primary account; I haven't even looked at the other Mail app)
-The Calendar app is somewhat disappointing, but still suits my purposes.
-NOTIFICATIONS...wow. The N1 owns the current iPhone OS in this area. The notification bar at the top of the screen, as well as the lights on the phone, make for a great alert system.
-Haven't tried putting any music or movies on the phone yet. I have a feeling this is a battle the iPhone may win. I did play a few preinstalled songs on the N1 music player, and while it's not as polished as the iPod on the iPhone, it still does its job well.
-The integration with Google/text/voice searching is seamless throughout the device.
-One cool thing I like is how it automatically syncs Facebook profile pics to your contacts list.
-Oh yeah, this thing is wicked fast.

All in all, after a day or so, I'm loving this phone. Can't wait to get it even more customized to my liking.
 
Got my N1 early yesterday, and I must say so far I am very impressed.

-First off, the screen is absolutely gorgeous. Online videos do it no justice. I also think the "not being able to see it in sunlight" issue is somewhat overplayed.
-I have had no troubles with the touchscreen. It is a smidge less responsive than the iPhone, but nothing that I'll be complaining about. I have also followed the tips about hitting the hotkeys towards their upper half and have experienced no troubles.
-The keyboard is a little different than the iPhone's as well. At first I found myself making some mistakes, but by the end of the day I was typing almost as quickly as I was on my iPhone. I'll probably try out Swype eventually.
-I was pleased to see that many of the apps that I used most frequently on my iPhone are also availible in the Android Marketplace (Shazam, Urbanspoon, Movies, etc.)
-The maps/navigation app is infinitely more polished than the iPhone version, as is the Gmail app (of course that only will apply if you have a Gmail address as your primary account; I haven't even looked at the other Mail app)
-The Calendar app is somewhat disappointing, but still suits my purposes.
-NOTIFICATIONS...wow. The N1 owns the current iPhone OS in this area. The notification bar at the top of the screen, as well as the lights on the phone, make for a great alert system.
-Haven't tried putting any music or movies on the phone yet. I have a feeling this is a battle the iPhone may win. I did play a few preinstalled songs on the N1 music player, and while it's not as polished as the iPod on the iPhone, it still does its job well.
-The integration with Google/text/voice searching is seamless throughout the device.
-One cool thing I like is how it automatically syncs Facebook profile pics to your contacts list.
-Oh yeah, this thing is wicked fast.

All in all, after a day or so, I'm loving this phone. Can't wait to get it even more customized to my liking.

Good to hear! I'm glad to hear from other people that are pleased with the N1 as well. I'm loving mine even more as each day goes by. If you get a unit with a good touchscreen, as it seems you have (so have I), there seem to be no real issues with sensitivity or inaccuracy whatsoever. At least nothing compared to what some are reporting, which I'm assuming are getting the bad touchscreens, as it seems that quality control between handsets is an issue with the N1. My touchscreen is more precise than any of my iPhones: the old 1st gen, or either of my 3G or 3GS's. And since going to the cyanogenmod ROM and going back to the stock android keyboard, I have zero troubles with typing on it. Just as fast as I was (which is very fast) on my iPhones. If you get a good unit, this is a great device!
 
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All this positive talk of rooting and the custom roms is making it hard for me to not do it. I've had no issues using the stock firmware so far but would love to play with other roms.

I used to kind of like flashing my Hero with custom roms to see what was new on newer cooked builds. This has been one interesting thread! :D
 
Good to hear! I'm glad to hear from other people that are pleased with the N1 as well. I'm loving mine even more as each day goes by. If you get a unit with a good touchscreen, as it seems you have (so have I), there seem to be no real issues with sensitivity or inaccuracy whatsoever. At least nothing compared to what some are reporting, which I'm assuming are getting the bad touchscreens, as it seems that quality control between handsets is an issue with the N1. My touchscreen is more precise than any of my iPhones: the old 1st gen, or either of my 3G or 3GS's. And since going to the cyanogenmod ROM and going back to the stock android keyboard, I have zero troubles with typing on it. Just as fast as I was (which is very fast) on my iPhones. If you get a good unit, this is a great device!

man, i wish i had a good unit because the phone really is awesome. that integration with google was like holding a supercomputer in your hand. top notch. much cheaper on TMO than the iphone on AT&T too...
 
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