I'm very tempted to installed the Sense UI and see how it compares to Cyanogen's latest. Anybody here tried both?
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So this sense UI copy and paste only applies to HTC Desire but not N1, right? Does N1 have the ability to do copy and paste in email and web browser?
I installed the Desire ROM (Alpha r21) and played around with it. The Sense UI is really powerful. Similar to Cyanogen mod, my phone constantly has over 150mb free ram available.
However, this is still an Alpha build and there are quite a few bugs. Once the bugs are sorted out I will be switching between this and the Cyanogen. I am very impressed with some of the hTC widgets and apps. Friendstream is really cool. The weather widget is even prettier than Beautiful Widgets. And I can tell I will be using the Footprint app very frequently. Having 7 homescreen is a big plus and the Sense UI is a joy to use.
After playing around for several hours I did a Nandroid restore back to the cyanogen mod. I honestly can't wait for the Desire Beta builts to be released.
I haven't read this thread but I did buy a Nexus One for AT&T on release day. Used it ever since. Really nice phone but I'm selling it and going back to my iPhone. The incredible App Store and overall user experience on the iPhone really shines. Give me the resolution of the Nexus One on my iPhone and it would be perfect.
Hey guys. I'm curious about how good the keyboard on the N1 is. For someone who texts more than he calls, would it be better to get the N1 on a blackberry. Asking this on behalf of my boyfriend. He already decided that he doesn't want an iphone so it's a toss up between a blackberry and an N1 at this point.
I don't have a nexus one, but i hear more and more people saying the same thing you are saying. I think the next iPhone will top the N1 in hardware. We should know in a few months.
I used both. I tried Sense on the myTouch and it was a disaster. However, with the power and screen of the Nexus One, Sense is much, much better. Sense is prettier. No doubt about that. Icons are colorful and detailed. Full screen weather, etc. There were occasionally slow downs and stuff like Bluetooth doesn't work. Overall, the reliability is just OK.
Cyanogen improves on the usability factor over the Stock ROM. I prefer the Cy ROM over Sense for an everyday ROM.
the iPhone's keyboard is probably the best amonst the virtual keyboard type phones. The N1 isn't bad but compared to the iPhone, the keys are smaller (ever so slightly) and there's less gap between them. I type with my forefinger and found the N1 to be decent.
Thumb typers may prefer the the blackberry's keyboard but I think the software of the n1 blows away the blackberry's. In the if I didn't have an iPhone I'd have a Nexus One
One question, well two actually for the more experienced android users.
Application quality and development differences between the iPhone and android platforms.
So far from what I've seen, many of the android apps seem to lack the polish of many of the iPhone apps. It could be just that I've done a poor job at selection.
Second question is related to that actual development of apps, not technical but rather, does the android platform offer any advantages over iPhone. For instance, I believe its java based - does that mean there's a performance hit, since the iPhone uses Objective-C? Does android have more APIs or access to more hardware level components then the iPhone?
Application quality and development differences between the iPhone and android platforms.
So far from what I've seen, many of the android apps seem to lack the polish of many of the iPhone apps. It could be just that I've done a poor job at selection.
Second question is related to that actual development of apps, not technical but rather, does the android platform offer any advantages over iPhone. For instance, I believe its java based - does that mean there's a performance hit, since the iPhone uses Objective-C? Does android have more APIs or access to more hardware level components then the iPhone?
might be a dumb question but any nexus people out there were you able or can it be done to be able to make your nexus into a wifi or mifi internet hotspot. just visited my parents and they just bought 2 Palm pre plus from verizon for $49 buy one get one free and they can use it as a hotspot for free i will never get a palm pre plus. iam a iphone 3gs guy and getting a nexus soon but i thought it was a good deal for them.
Yes, you can make your N1 act as a wifi hotspot if you root the device and install the Wireless Tether for Android app. I do this for my iPad and Macbooks when away from home/work. It's very fast, as the N1 always has higher data upload/download speeds than my 3GS (the 3GS is hardware crippled from Apple on upload speeds). Works like a charm.
Given the difference in available apps, it's hard to quantify any potential performance hit, but I have noticed that my Droid's UI was slightly laggier than my old iPT3G when I was still at stock, although apps ran just fine. After rooting, everything is silky smooth.
As far as lower-level access, that's one of Android's main strengths. In addition to being able to customise things like your launcher (imagine completely replacing Springboard on the iPhone!) and your software keyboard, even non-root apps are allowed to access hardware toggles such as Wi-Fi, brightness controls, and the notification LED (although I understand this last one is still in development on the N1). You can also install replacements for pretty much any of the stock apps: off the top of my head, this includes at least the email client, the browser, the SMS/MMS app, the car dock and multimedia dock apps, the alarm clock, and even the phone dialer app. I even have an app that runs an FTP server for easy access to the phone's filesystem.
And while you can get most of these on the Android Market, you're also allowed to install apps from other sources if you want.
If you root, you can do even more: install custom kernels to allow things like Wi-Fi data tethering and overclocking (although overclocking is also still a work-in-progress on the N1), uninstall default apps that come with the phone (even on a jailbroken iPhone your only option is to hide them), and install themes and custom icons and stuff.
Thus will probably make iPhone users spit feathers but if Nexus One switchers missed the iPod music player.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HagPnTpICjk
bTunes
No coverflow (thankfully) but it does support gesture based swipe on the album art for next/previous track which is quite good and supports lockscreen controls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HagPnTpICjk
bTunes
No coverflow (thankfully) but it does support gesture based swipe on the album art for next/previous track which is quite good and supports lockscreen controls.
I'm developing apps for both.
I generally agree with both your comments.
I haven't been able to quantify exactly why, but in general the iPhone UI controls simply look better. There's more attention to detail, they're better designed to look nice. The iPhone has more animation built in thats easier to access and is more useful.
On the other hand, I find development on Android is somewhat easier. The source code is available and there are more developer forums which means when you get stuck, there's a way to get around it. On the iPhone, its a black box. Its up to the Apple gods to decide to tell you how to fix it or admit a bug or ignore you.
Regarding performance, Java is plenty fast for most application needs. However games need a non-intepretted environment like Objective-C. Google recently announced OpenGL 2.0 support in their NDK (native development kit) which allows C/C++ code to run. This will allow game developers to port most of their code to Android. There's already a comparison demo I've seen on YouTube comparing framerates. They decided the graphics hardware on the existing Android devices is slower than the iPhone 3GS.
Thus will probably make iPhone users spit feathers but if Nexus One switchers missed the iPod music player.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HagPnTpICjk
bTunes
No coverflow (thankfully) but it does support gesture based swipe on the album art for next/previous track which is quite good and supports lockscreen controls.
the guy's pushing all these buttons for the entire video, but I didn't see the ability to scroll through the song in the N1.
I've really not seen that too much. In the end, I've been underwhelmed/disappointed with the android app offering.
Either way, my Nexus is boxed up and is being shipped to HTC. I used it all day yesterday and found that it was not a good fit for my needs. Heck, I was down to 50% battery by 10:00am.
The cause - listening to music, and commuting on the subway. I think the 3G radio sucked the battery down looking for a connection. On my iPhone I don't need to play games like turning off the GPS, or 3G radios to keep it going through out the day.
Its not a bad phone, but for me, it was ill fitting.
Say what? Almost every app that is available for both platforms is better on the iPhone.
It seems like the N1 novelty has wore off.
That the excitement is always who will out do the iPhone. That the iPhone is the benchmark of the industry.
Marc
That the excitement is always who will out do the iPhone. That the iPhone is the benchmark of the industry.
Marc
I think he meant that the apps on Android can integrate into the operating system where the ones from the Appstore cant thus adding more functionality.
couldn't you just buy a spare battery and swap it out later in the day? I have even seen higher capacity batteries for sale too. How is the iphone difference as far as power consumption?