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Are people this I don't how to say it? Special?:confused:

Maybe it has more RAM. But it is the same chip.

They said it is the same chip, you can't be serious? Can you.:eek:

They also said that FaceTime was magical. Did you believe them? It's the same chip in a sense that it has the same architecture. For all we know it may be even faster than the one in iPad. But it's a different chip nonetheless and we can't know how well it performs until we test it.
 
If the screen exceeds 4" for a smartphone...you're doing it wrong.

Yeah...I feel the same way. Was excited for Nexus Prime..but with a 4.6" screen I'll probably go with the 4S...even as bad as I want 4G/LTE service.
 
Are people seriously saying the iPhone 4S will have the better screen? The only department the Samsung Galaxy S2's screen was 'worse' than the iPhone 4's was due to it's resolution, EVERYTHING else was better about it. Now with a 720P resolution there's no way the iPhone 4/4S has a better screen.

Some people might be saying that...but you're right, if this resolution is true then the galaxy nexus will have the better screen (personally I won't believe that resolution until I see it...retina density samoled screens are supposed to be WAY too expensive right now).

But the point is that 4.65" is just HUGE. 4.3" phones seem quite big as it is (too big for many (most?) people), and for lots, the 3.5" screen of the iPhone will be superior just because the phone itself won't be outrageously large. A larger screen is never a bad thing, but a larger body can be. That's why many expected the iPhone 5 to have an edge to edge display...so it could have a bigger screen without increasing the body size too drastically (if at all)
 
So basically, new OS, better camera, and larger screen. Doesn't scream innovative to me.

Haha...omit the larger screen and what you've basically described is a iPhone 4S (oh sorry...new antenna as well...WOOOOO)
 
Maybe it has more RAM. But it is the same chip.

They said it is the same chip, you can't be serious? Can you.:eek:
Ram is not on the chip. ;)
The A5 is a processor type, not A single processor. Apple can and will make variations depending on need.
You can bet your ass the A5 in the 4S is not the same chip stuffed into the iPad 2.
You don't change chip markings if it's the same chip. Something is different about the one used in the S4.
What it is still remains to be answered.


I omitted your "special" comment from my quote.
You want to make personal insults, go to another forum.
You want to argue tech, have fun, but bring a good argument.
Insults are used by those in a weaker position. ;)
 
but the point is that 4.65" is just huge. 4.3" phones seem quite big as it is (too big for many (most?) people), and for lots, the 3.5" screen of the iphone will be superior just because the phone itself won't be outrageously large. A larger screen is never a bad thing, but a larger body can be. That's why many expected the iphone 5 to have an edge to edge display...so it could have a bigger screen without increasing the body size too drastically (if at all)

+1.
 
BGR released the specs for the nexus prime. There goes my Iphone 4 pre-order, unless it is not coming to rogers in Canada. Based on those specs, its hard to justify being stuck for another 2-3 years with an Iphone 4s.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/

Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich
9mm thin
4.65-inch 1280 x 720-pixel Super AMOLED HD with curved glass
TI OMAP 4460 dual-core Cortex A9 processor clocked at 1.2GHz
1GB of RAM
32GB of built-in storage
5-megapixel camera on the back, 1.3-megapixel in the front
1080p HD video capture support
LTE/HSPA depending on carrier
Wi-Fi a/b/g/n
NFC
1,750 mAh battery

Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich

No thanks.
 
They also said that FaceTime was magical. Did you believe them? It's the same chip in a sense that it has the same architecture. For all we know it may be even faster than the one in iPad. But it's a different chip nonetheless and we can't know how well it performs until we test it.

His point was different number doesn't mean different chip, it means different system. The A5 is a system-on-chip solution, so the ram for example could be different, but the processor could be the same. Or perhaps the GPU has been changed to be more suited to the iPhones screen...you are right though, we can't really know how it performs until it is tested. But the original A5 DOUBLED the processing power of the sgs2 in some categories (graphics for example), so it'd have to be quite a bit less powerful than it's iPad brother for the sgs2 to outclass it

EDIT: not really thinking today, it's not system on chip, so the RAM claim I made was false. However, it could have a different size cache, for example. Different number != slower processor

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haha...omit the larger screen and what you've basically described is a iphone 4s (oh sorry...new antenna as well...wooooo)

siri
 
It supports Wifi a/b/g/n?? I'll finally be able to switch over to a 5GHz frequency on my phone! :eek:
Damn: Verizon exclusive. I think I'll just go pre-order the iPhone then... :mad:
 
do u like apple then???...think your so far up their a**,all u can see is your feet..lol



Calm down Shirley. :rolleyes:

Did I hurt your feelings. :(

I do like apple and I also like android. I am not such a child that i care about specs more usability or battery life. I have a business to run. There are people(nerds) who care just about specs and not usability and battery life, such as yourself. I need my phone to work for me, not me work for it.

Are you such a nerd that specs all that matter to you.

I would like it even better if I didn't have to by a 2000 battery made by samsung just to get decent battery life. And it still with the bigger battery can not last as long as my iphone 4.

Just calling it like I see it. You repeat the same thing over and over again like a parrot. Android is better just because with no facts to back up your opinions.

Denying facts and making up theories is called 'delusion'.
 
His point was different number doesn't mean different chip, it means different system. The A5 is a system-on-chip solution, so the ram for example could be different, but the processor could be the same. Or perhaps the GPU has been changed to be more suited to the iPhones screen...you are right though, we can't really know how it performs until it is tested. But the original A5 DOUBLED the processing power of the sgs2 in some categories (graphics for example), so it'd have to be quite a bit less powerful than it's iPad brother for the sgs2 to outclass it

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siri

I have no doubts that A5 in iPhone 4S will perform well. I just do not know how well. Maybe they decreased the number of shaders (or whatever the right hardware term would be), used different RAM or under-clocked something. One would expect that they might try to reduce power consumption for iPhone-bound chip and this would come at the expense of performance.
 
It supports Wifi a/b/g/n?? I'll finally be able to switch over to a 5GHz frequency on my phone! :eek:
Damn: Verizon exclusive. I think I'll just go pre-order the iPhone then... :mad:

It'll be available on all carriers in a few months (perhaps under different name). But you can buy Galaxy SII. It also has dual band WiFi n.
 
Selective reading how? Explain.

You have selective reading. Try reading the thread. I guess the specs are better because you say it is. Okay. :confused:

Once more time. Explain why they are better. How hard is that. I gave my opinion on why I think the iphone 4s specs are better.

Is this hard for you?

Iphone 4S

better CPU and GPU
better camera Shoots 1080P video
higher PPI screen, yes it's true. 329PPI to 320PPI
new OS
Siri
better battery life

Nexus prime

bigger screen same quality as iphone 4s
slower CPU and GPU
faster connectivity with LTE, with dismal battery life
weaker camera, but shoots 1080P video
new OS
curved screen(don't know if this is a benefit)

It has some better specs. The iphone 4s has better specs. Better camera, better CPU and GPU.

The nexus prime has better connectivity with LTE and a bigger screen but high quality as the retina display.

Selective reading? really?

Apple A5 benchmarks:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4225/the-ipad-2-review/4

Supposdly the nexus primes OMAP 4460 CPU. Note the tests are for the 4430, not the 4460, not much difference between the two. Remember it's clocked at 1.2 ghz are the rumors.

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...ntId=53243&navigationId=12843&templateId=6123


http://www.anandtech.com/show/4551/motorola-droid-3-review-third-times-a-charm/10

Iphone 4S specs:

http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_4s-4212.php

Nexus Prime specs:

http://www.bgr.com/2011/10/06/samsung-galaxy-nexus-full-specs-revealed-verizon-wireless-exclusive/

Who is delusional, who has selective reading? Lol.

Lol your post just proves my point, how funny.
It is YOU who fail to comprehend why others are even interested in the Nexus.
Explain to me how a bigger screen with practically same PPI and higher resolution is inferior than the retina display?
Explain to me how LTE is inferior to 3G? Don't give me the usual battery crap, we don't know yet.
Explain to me how you arrive at the conclusion that the A5 in the 4S is already superior to something unconfirmed? Mind you Apple is more than likely underclocking the chip.
Remember last year when the iSheeps were preaching how camera pixels aren't everything? And how benchmark does not represent real use? Are you falling for the same Fandroid logic now?
Did you even read why others are interested in this phone? Or are you so butt hurt that you have to dismiss all advantages provided by the nexus and believe the on par/sub par qualities offered by the 4S is still unmatched?
Again, looks like I was right.
The iSheeps just never cease to amaze me. I might have lost myself a little bit and fell for the iTrolls.
 
Never said the 4s is or was better, that is personal preference on who like what.

I think that you know that the iphone 4S not only has more pixels, but everything else as well. They even mentioned at the keynote yesterday that "pixels don't matter' during the keynote. They explained in great detail why the camera is better than the iphone 4. If all things being equal hardware wise for the cameras, and the iphone 4s has more pixels I think we know which one is better. I doubt that they have the hardware the iphone 4S does as far as a camera goes.

Really, the leaked specs show 720P video.

I think that a LTE phone with a 4.65 screen and only a 1750 battery will have dismal battery life. Stop being coy. You know that.

It has a faster CPU and GPU, and by the way it does have better specs, again for the tenth time not that they matter. I said that what in this thread in just about every post. I don't care about specs.

i just find it funny that not one person, including yourself will not admit that the iphone 4S specs are superior in alot of aspects. Was that not the point of the whole Apple sucks, they failed posts yesterday?

But when the nexus prime supposedly leaked specs, which are inferior leak out some people are drooling. I find that funny. And not even now not one person can come up with any counter points to my argument on why the specs are better.

I am still waiting................................ anyone?

For someone that says "I don't care about specs" you sure talk a lot about specs. And before this spec leak, all Apple fanboys were preaching "specs don't matter! it's the user experience! blah blah blah"

Funny how they're now saying the iPhone 4S is better because of the specs...:confused::rolleyes:

I'm waiting to see both phones before I decide. Like most things it's hard to judge a phone purely from what's on paper.
 
i need at least a 8mp camera. looking for forward to seeing the really spec. will make my decision after i see it. probably won't see the ip4s over here for ages.
Can I ask why you "need" an 8MP camera in a cell phone?

Are you making poster size prints?

Or is it that you need a quality camera in a cell phone?
 
If you have a difficult time functioning any smartphone on the market then you're probably slow and don't need to be operating computer equipment. Big bright push buttons will work for you. I walked into an ATT store the other day to see how the galaxy 2 operated and I figured everything as quickly as I figured out how to use my iPhone. I've been on iOS for about 3 years so that's the only thing I know right now. It's the same experience. Marketing is insane on people's perception. It shows how easily people can be controlled. You can do what you like on both phones. I happen to like the added bonus of a bigger screen and LTE.

Did they tease this phone? Is it really going to have the slight curve? That is so nice if true.
 
Ram is not on the chip. ;)
The A5 is a processor type, not A single processor. Apple can and will make variations depending on need.
You can bet your ass the A5 in the 4S is not the same chip stuffed into the iPad 2.
You don't change chip markings if it's the same chip. Something is different about the one used in the S4.
What it is still remains to be answered.


I omitted your "special" comment from my quote.
You want to make personal insults, go to another forum.
You want to argue tech, have fun, but bring a good argument.
Insults are used by those in a weaker position. ;)

You are confused my friend. I know what the A5 is. The A4 is a different processor than the A5 as the A6 will be different than the one before it. But a A5 is still a A5 SOC no matter how much ram it has or don't have.

I know the RAM isn't on the chip, The A5 is a SOC not just a processor.

Its the same chip. You change chip marking when there is a change is specs for said chip. It is still a A5 SOC, might have more ram, different frequency, same chip.

I think you mean it is not the exact implementation of the A5 chip lower or higher clock, more ram etc, but it is still the A5 SOC.

Sorry for the rude comet. I thought you were one of the delusional Android posters, I will edit my post. I apologize:eek:.
 
It will be a 4.3" screen. The extra .3" is for the on-screen buttons at the bottom.

you know I complete forgot that it will not have those buttons on the bottom and how they will not be there like they are currently.
The question will be will that 4.6" screen be a 16:9 ratio or will they make it something like 16:8 ratio and have the onscreen buttons make the viewing area 16:9.

That is the big question. Depending on how they do it this can be rather nice as the phone will not be bigger than the Galaxy S2.
 
It will be a 4.3" screen. The extra .3" is for the on-screen buttons at the bottom.

I didn't consider that they'd do this with their phones...this does change things a bit. Makes it seem like the screen may be edge to edge or close to it at least. Perhaps this phone won't be so massive after all
 
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