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The Jets get very little respect in this league. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. We beat NE once this year but no one thought we could do it again. We beat Pittsburgh just 2 weeks ago.

No surprise that the Jets won yesterday. After the ball washing the media gave Brady all week, it's no wonder he had trouble moving in the pocket. Could Simms and Nantz rooted for him any more than they did? I stopped counting after the 23rd time they mentioned the 45-3 game.

Brady Ball Washers said:
- You can't beat Bill Belicheck when he has two weeks to prepare.

- You shouldn't say anything about Brady, now he's going to be mad.

- 45-3 counts but that earlier Jets win doesn't count because this is a new Pats team.

- If it comes down to Sanchez vs. Brady then you know the Pats will win big.

- Cromartie can't cover anyone & Brady is going to light him up.
- Revis can't make a difference in a game like this. It's a different type of offense.

- Sure they stopped the Colts but this is an explosive offense with a defense.

- Brady doesn't throw interceptions.

- Look at all these weapons the Pats have. They're unstoppable.

- The Pats D is ranked low but that doesn't count because they were "coming together". This is a different D that the Jets are facing now.

And let's not forget we won without Brad Smith who returns kicks and runs our wildcat.

Say what you will, but my team is playing in their second straight AFC Championship game. [/rant]

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Jets and Steelers should be a great game now, depending on which team shows up. But for the Jets to go on the road to beat Manning, Brady and Roethlisberger, well, that will be some "feet". :p

Jets can show up like a whole herd of stomping hoofs for all I care. For them, I hope they can harness all this momentum into smart play. Yes, the coach is a genius and Sanchez will probably be Atlanta's nemesis for pick for top offense in the future, but the Jets have not taken a SB in a very long time.

Jets have beaten the Steelers in the regular season fair and square and I give them that.

It's not so much on the AFC side I am worried about for the Jets, it's who is left on the NFC side.

GB is the only team that has made a huge jump in the playoffs from a team that just barely got in to one that can go all the way and not shock anybody in doing so. GB has Rodgers, of course, but who knew they had so many other tools in their arsenal who would peak this late at the perfect time? Their pressure on Brady was great even though I didn't see a black and blue era type of hit on him ala LT, but just a couple of steps more on speed and the next QB to face the Jets could be in a world of hurt.

Chicago has been strong all the way and they know how to put the hit on offense players. I don't know if GB or Chicago is scarier, but like you said there is something about which team shows up. I was thinking Chicago could completely shut down an opponent's offensive line, but that is not the case so they can be vulnerable.

This postseason has been a great example in teams coming to the field totally unprepared and getting jumped.

The team I see least likely to go all the way are GB or the Steelers but it wouldn't be unlike the hot Jets (like the Pats and Atlanta before them) to simply not show up after having been very in the zone. Chicago may be underrated on O, but they could be the most consistent team standing and that has to count for something. I have always called at least some sort of score as a prediction, but for both championship games, I'll call it a draw.:rolleyes: Yeah, chicken of me being that I would at least predict a team by a point. But we are pretty even here.

As much as I hate to be on the fence, all I can say is it's not teams winning in the postseason more than it is teams beating themselves. If a team beats themselves in the SB, the team that wins gets the season whether they only score a couple of touchdowns and fail on most 3rd down conversions. If a team wins the SB because the other team is full of violations, then so be it as this has set the tone so far.

Vegas will be hot with the possibilities of having a team completely come out of this cursed postseason unscathed.
 
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Jets have beaten the Steelers in the regular season. It's not so much on the AFC side I am worried about for the Jets, it's who is left on the NFC side.

GB is the only team that has made a huge jump in the playoffs from a team that just barely got in to one that can go all the way and not shock anybody in doing so. GB has Rodgers, of course, but who knew they had so many other tools in their arsenal who would peak this late?

Chicago has been strong all the way and they know how to put the hit on offense players. I don't know if GB or Chicago is scarier, but like you said there is something about which team shows up. I was thinking Chicago could completely shut down an opponent's offensive line, but that is not the case so they can be vulnerable.

This postseason has been a great example in teams coming to the field totally unprepared and getting jumped.

The team I see least likely to go all the way are GB or the Steelers but it wouldn't be unlike the hot Jets (like the Pats and Atlanta before them) to simply not show up after having been very in the zone. I have always called at least some sort of score as a prediction, but for both championship games, I'll call it a draw.:rolleyes: Yeah, chicken of me.

As much as I hate to be on the fence, all I can say is it's not teams winning in the postseason more than it is teams beating themselves. Vegas will be hot with the possibilities of having a team completely come out of this cursed postseason unscathed.

EVERYbody knew... have you been paying attention? they were picked by many of your "experts" as THE team to beat this year until crushing injuries slowed them down. Finley at TE, Grant at RB numerous defensive injuries etc etc etc. And they STILL competed in every game they lost this year
 
EVERYbody knew... have you been paying attention? they were picked by many of your "experts" as THE team to beat this year until crushing injuries slowed them down. Finley at TE, Grant at RB numerous defensive injuries etc etc etc. And they STILL competed in every game they lost this year

Crushing injuries tend to change the picture, don't you think? There's no undo button on getting injured, especially with two Sundays left.

I saw a couple of Jets and GB players get banged up pretty badly and it will be interesting to see just how much this makes a difference. Oddly, it wasn't the guy who got hit, but the guy who did the hitting. I would think even a minor injury at this point can have devastating consequences of a player.

Anyway, I know you don't like to predict, and the NFL site has shown slight edges to one team or another in a conservative fashion.

What is your take on who will win next week and why? I don't have any way to criticize since all my picks have gone down, except for making the pretty safe prediction the Seahawks would probably be out of it right now and certainly not in the SB.
 
I slightly favor Green Bay over the Bears, just because I think they are a better offensive team and have been playing well on the road

I think the Jets/Steelers is a toss up at this point
Both are inconsistent and capable of a big game or laying an egg
 
I slightly favor Green Bay over the Bears, just because I think they are a better offensive team and have been playing well on the road

I think the Jets/Steelers is a toss up at this point
Both are inconsistent and capable of a big game or laying an egg

I agree with the second part with either AFC team capable of the egg thing (actually multiple times).

But GB over Bears is a hard one to call when it's at Chicago. In a neutral stadium (had one of them been AFC and the upcoming game was the Super Bowl), I would give the slight edge to GB because they are at an amazing peak considering their regular season record. Rodgers is showing why is he is the #1 rated career QB in NFL history as well as #1 fantasy pick this season.

Anyway, both games should be very interesting in that they seemed to be pretty equally matched. Even if all four teams were at a low, as long as they are equally matched, makes this hard to call and thus very interesting.

I have not had a lot of time to go through these teams in my head being that at this point I expected both NE and ATL to be here.

So, it's probably going to be close as some say, but will both games bring in big points or will this be a defensive battle rattling around all offenses involved holding this to low points?
 
So, it's probably going to be close as some say, but will both games bring in big points or will this be a defensive battle rattling around all offenses involved holding this to low points?

the Chi-GB game will be close probably, and it will be a defensive game. look at the week 17 meeting between them; 10-3 final score. i don't expect a shootout at all.
 
the Chi-GB game will be close probably, and it will be a defensive game. look at the week 17 meeting between them; 10-3 final score. i don't expect a shootout at all.

yeah I don't even think Chi has much of a home field advantage in this considering there will be a ton of packer fans at this game and they are both cold-weather outdoor teams. Should be low scoring I give the Bears a slight edge if it's cold and snowy out and GB can't run the ball

I give Pitt the edge ove NYJ as they are going to be at home and their defense is looking tough, although NYJ defense is also looking very strong. If LT can really run the way he has in the playoffs it will be NYJ, otherwise Pitt :rolleyes:
 
Since Ryan has taken over as coach, the Jets and their arch-rivals, New England, each have 24 wins.

Playoff wins in the last two seasons:

Ryan 4
Belichick 0


- Peter King
 
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The same could be said that how far they got down and how they got down to the Ravens shows what kind of ball they are playing now

Was it an awesome Steeler comeback or a complete choke and meltdown by the Ravens?

That is the age old question
 
I wouldn't count out Pittsburgh just yet. Big Ben is a playoff quarterback and to come back on the Ravens last week shows what kind of ball they are playing right now.

I think the Ravens gave that game away. that fumble on the 20 and a few dropped passes in the fourth quarter by Boldin and TJ. They made mistakes but that game was well within their grasp. Credit to the steelers for capitalizing on those mistakes though.
 
Prediction

Both home teams will prevail this week.

Super Bowl: Chicago vs. Pittsburgh

Winner: Pittsburgh
 
Well, we certainly are left with some interesting storylines.

- Can the Packers win the SB the year Favre finally retires?

- Can LT get a ring after most people thought he was done for?

- Can Cutler prove the doubters wrong and show that he's capable of leading a team instead of just throwing interceptions?

- Can Big Ben win the SB after all the off season drama and cement himself in the conversation as one of the greatest QB's in the SB era?

I'm sure there's many more, but these were the first that came to mind. It's going to be fun watching all of this play out. :)
 
I still have a hard time viewing Big Ben as a great QB in the same way as a Brady/Manning/Montana/Young, etc.

Yes, he has been on SB winning teams, but so was Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson and Jeff Hostetler

Bradshaw won 4 rings, is he one of the best QB's of the SB era?
Marino never won anything, is he NOT one of the best QB's ever?

Some great QB's never have the right team at the right time
Some average QB's are in the right place at the right time

Big Ben is a good QB with the right team for him
But Polamalu, Hines Ward, the Bus, Santonio Holmes and others didn't hurt
 
I still have a hard time viewing Big Ben as a great QB in the same way as a Brady/Manning/Montana/Young, etc.

Yes, he has been on SB winning teams, but so was Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson and Jeff Hostetler

Bradshaw won 4 rings, is he one of the best QB's of the SB era?
Marino never won anything, is he NOT one of the best QB's ever?

Some great QB's never have the right team at the right time
Some average QB's are in the right place at the right time

Big Ben is a good QB with the right team for him
But Polamalu, Hines Ward, the Bus, Santonio Holmes and others didn't hurt

Well said, Macdawg.

Big Ben is exactly that, a good quarterback, and I would add far better than average. The sad truth is that could win one or two more rings and he won't be put in the same sentence as a Montana, Brady, Manning, Young, or Marino. Career stats for Big Ben are just not there as a pure QB. The others were quarterback machines.

And yes, he is lucky be on a great team. I don't ever see anybody who knows anything about football calling him one of the all time greats though. But to his credit, Big Ben pulls his own weight and I wouldn't put him in the same sentence as SB winners like Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, or Doug Williams. Those three were arguably lucky to be on the teams they were when they were. At best, those three QBs were average.

In the old days we had Jim Plunkett (who? ... see below, but for arguments sake, he was our version of Big Ben being on a great team but never sharing in the glory) with the 49ers and Raiders and he was (and will always be) well liked in the Bay Area and eventually led two SB teams (but one as a backup who slid into the starting job when main guy got hurt), and nobody even here puts him in the same sentence as two ring winner Roger Staubach. Yeah, we hate the Cowboys and all in the bay area, and we love our Raiders and Niners, but Roger the dodger was far more of a QB than Plunkett ever was. You can't just count rings.

But Plunkett may have just an OK ability overall, but like Big Ben, he is a presence (and has a leadership quality) and that makes up for not being a wonderful talent like Roger Staubach. Plunkett's intangibles made him a radio and tv ad favorite in the bay area. You even love the guy when he loses and who can say that about many players! It doesn't hurt that Plunkett was born here, went to college here, and was on two of his three pro teams here. :) I won't mention the "other team he played on...
 

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Green Bay is certainly capable of winning it all. They've been on fire the whole playoffs.

I think the only chance for the Bears to win is if Cutler doesn't turn the ball over and they have a good mix of run and pass. Yeah, sounds pretty obvious, and it is, but its pretty clear cut for them.

Also their defense, which has been good (until the end of the seahawks game) just has to play aggressively which i think they will. If ALL that happens, I think chicago can pull it off ;)

As for the AFC, I don't really care since my pats lost :( don't really care much for the steelers or jets either.
 
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