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And let's not forget the NFL is an organization that is technically a nonprofit that pays no taxes, but regularly signs exclusive endorsement deals worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

Those "hundreds of millions of dollars" are then passed directly on to the member franchises, which are taxable entities, and DO pay taxes.

In fact, the NFL distributes all its profits to its member franchises. Since it retains no profits itself, the NFL is correctly classified as a non-profit, and has no retained profits to be taxed. There's nothing fishy or improper about this.
 
I am a big fan of Shure. Go to an audiologist (sensaphonics does the molds so hit their site to find an audiologist in your area) and get a custom molded pair of in ear monitors and be done with the rubbish. There is a reason just about every pro musician uses them on stage night after night; comfort and quality sound.

The Custom IEM Sleeves link on the left of the Sensaphonics site is where you will find the Shure models.

Thank you. I will give Shure a try (I know that a lot of DJs use Shure). I appreciate it!
 
I wouldn't buy Bose because I find their aesthetic lacking. They remind me too much of the late night infomercial product bought via monthly installments and a call now 800 number. My grandparents would buy Bose.

Beats are like other brands that are part function and part fashion, a lot of sunglass brands come to mind. Are they the best fricken sunglasses ever? Does a niche element of 'philes consider them completely inferior and overpriced/overhyped?

Watches are the same way, you can buy an atomic-accurate timepiece for relatively short money, there's no "need" to consider fashion right?

Beats are worn in the street, on public transportation, out and about. They come in colors because people want to make a fashion statement with them as much as hear audio through them. My little nieces aren't pining for Bose headphones that nobody wants to be seen wearing. They want the Beats that their musicians and entertainers wear. They are not audiophiles.
 
The players are not under contract to wear Bose. How did that idea form in your head? I could almost excuse the rest of your post but this is embarrassing.:eek:

Find the quote where I said a player wouldn't break a contract. I'll save you some time, you can't. Also I will help you out since understanding the NFL doesn't seem to be your baliwick. To break a contract doesn't mean what you think it does. What you're talking about is a contract violations - players can be fined for those.

What could the topic be about? Well, it could be about the fact that you do not understand what the article is about and you have even less understanding about the NFL. That's pretty obvious.

Maybe you should find out what Bose's NFL sponsorship actually entails. It would quickly become clear to you that this is a standard NFL sponsorship. Also, despite what the MR headline suggests, this isn't a ban on Beats. It's all branded headphones AND headsets. Bose is already in the process of creating headsets to replace the Motorola headsets currently used by coaches on the sideline.

How come I'm the one that didn't even read the article but you look stupid? I wish I cared about the NFL half as much as I enjoy riling you up over nothing.
 
LoL. Really?

Honestly this is just about as bad as Balmer taking away all the Clippers iPads! Do you think this level of control is good? Changes people minds by forcing them to use alternative product they do not CHOOSE to use? Do you think it changes people's opinion into finding out the truth of which product is better. Sure subliminal advertising and product placement makes you think of a product, but what feelings of that product does it convey by THESE mean of force? So sad and pathetically wrong to see such desperate grasps at trying to stop an excellent company do that much better, especially from where they came. . . Beats headphones? I have no comment. My trust in faith in :apple: to make good decisions - always.
 
No iPads, no Beats, but yes to beating your wife. Good work, NFL.

The only loop hole to this is, you have to film yourself beating your wife with the ipad and listen to her screaming wearing beats headphones. Then they'd have some ground to stand on.
 
Honestly this is just about as bad as Balmer taking away all the Clippers iPads! Do you think this level of control is good?

How is the OWNER of the team deciding to endorse a particular electronic device different from a team deciding to endorse a particular energy/sports drink? We are talking about Privately held and controlled franchises where everyone including the players are looking to make the most amount of money. These aren't national teams. If the owner thinks that revenue can be upped by endorsing a particular brand then he has the full right to do so, and ask his employees to adhere to the rules and regulations. If he does something that has a questionable legality, well then the employees can take that up with their union.
 
It's a huge leap from Esa-Pekka Salonen to whatever these players listen on their Beats's.
 
Beats vs Bose:
I'm still learning to be an audiophile but to retain a purity of sound, I'm not really for noise cancellation as it "changes" the audio signal. I'm more of a fan of noise blocking, not cancelling. This thread isn't really an argument of which is better though. The higher and highest end headphones are not made by Bose or Beats so I don't care - they can fight it out for 3rd or whatever place.

That being said, not allowing players to have a specific brand of something on their person at any time is the absolute dumbest thing I've ever seen. Why don't we just get robots to play football. I think Fox made that one that jumps around the screen after commercials. It has no mind of its own. Then again, maybe these football players don't either. Their reason for wearing them in the first place is likely for personal gain, not because they really like them.
 
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C'mon man!

Lebron was who I thought of when I read that comment. Not remotely overrated!
 
Replacing one brand of crappy overpriced garbage with another isn't much of a difference. In a better world the official headphone brand of the NFL would be Sennheiser, Audio Technica or Grados.
 
Apple is more like Bose than Beats, I think.

But Bose didn't have the streaming service that Apple wanted.

In a perceived quality of product sense, yes. But in the sense of "cool factor": Beats captures the zeitgeist of the current internet generation, regrettably, and is therefore more synergistic with the Apple brand, or at least its desired portrayal, to their target demographic.
 
Even within the context of professional sports, which would seem to be the essence of "competition", all Apple's competition can think to do—instead of actually competing by producing better quality products—is to "restrict."

Now that's lame and that's sad.

Bose paid for the right. Just like Nike or under armour or Gatorade. It's a for. If advertising. Nothing more.
 
stick with a subject that you have the VAGUEST clue about!

Jesus, you sound like a great human being!
I somehow trust my ears and the ones of my colleagues in the music industry better than yours. Your deciding that most people think Bose and Beats are of the same calibre is peremptory and does not make it true. Unless Beats released magical headphones in the last few months with improved quality they're so inferior to Bose products that I doubt that it's a matter of taste. Even if you were correct in thinking most deem them equivalent I still think we are right.
It's ok to disagree with people without being obnoxious you know !
 
And the message it would send is Apple is stupid. Apple sells plenty of products that compete with theirs and the Apple store would be pretty lean if they only sold products that didn't compete with theirs.

This would have been true a few years ago but not anymore, Apple is in an entirely different league now. The money Apple makes from Bose products will be minuscule compared to their overall retail strategy and there are so many genuine premium headphone brands out there that Apple doesn't need Bose to spruce up its store anymore.

They made a move against Beats (not their first in recent months) which means its a move against Apple as well. 3rd party brands need to know that if they make a move like this there are consequences.

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They play that game in 2014.

Pick up an apple product, it has Samsung components in it. Apple is about making money, they will continue to sell BOSE products in store as long as there is a profit to be made.

When the BOSE deal ends with the NFL, apple can bid for it.

The amount of money they make off Bose will be minuscule and outweighed by higher level business strategies. Apple could practically sell any tech product on their store, but they don't for good reason.

This should be about action-reaction to starve off future moves like this in the future.
 
This sponsorship was announced in March, presumably following several months' negotiations. Apple bought Beats ten weeks later.

Ah didn't know about that, this changes everything. Could still be the right business move to remove them from the Apple Store.
 
Irony. Classic.

Guess you didn't know that someone mixes songs. They must all suck at it, right? :rolleyes:

Huh? I don't understand your point. Of course there are audio engineers that engineer music.

I believe the competency of modern day audio engineers, labels and producers is sorely lacking. They are so worried about dynamic compression and making the song sound loud that I'm completely befuddled why they insist on neutral sounding headphones in the first place. After all, the dynamic compression that they introduce into the final mix completely kills any sort of true sound that may have been there to begin with.

Are you saying that an audio engineer needs neutral headphones so he can more accurately destroy a song with dynamic compression? Are you saying that an audio engineer needs neutral sounding headphones so he can more accurately introduce dynamic compression into the song?

I can roll my eyes at your statement as well. My personal belief is that audiophiles are snobs that do nothing but troll and talk ****. Who really cares if I like Koss headphones or Beats headphones or Sony headphones or Bose headphones or any other number of other brands? Are you paying my bills or funding my audio purchases? Are you tasked with monitoring the value of my expenditures? Do you really care that I listen to Beats headphones or do you just want to talk ****? I think you just want to troll and stir the pot.

I simply enjoy bass in my headphones. I also enjoy slightly exaggerated bass in my headphones as well. I like to feel the sound pressure levels vibrate my ear drums. I like to feel the percussion inside my head. I like the way the bass notes make me feel. This is how I maximize my music listening enjoyment.

I don't understand why people like you feel the need to try and tell people like me that we're wrong. If listening to wimpy, neutral sound is the definition of an audiophile then I absolutely do not ever want to be an audiophile. I like music that has personality and my Beats Studio Wireless headphones deliver the personality I'm looking for in an attractive fashion.

I'm perfectly comfortable with you wearing wimpy, accurate, neutral headphones so why aren't you comfortable with me wearing a brand of headphones that emphasizes the musical notes I find most pleasing?

The following video explains why I despise modern day audio engineers. They're the ones destroying the music, not Beats or Bose or any other brand of headphones that audiophile snobs hate.

http://youtu.be/3Gmex_4hreQ
 
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Jesus, you sound like a great human being!
I somehow trust my ears and the ones of my colleagues in the music industry better than yours. Your deciding that most people think Bose and Beats are of the same calibre is peremptory and does not make it true. Unless Beats released magical headphones in the last few months with improved quality they're so inferior to Bose products that I doubt that it's a matter of taste. Even if you were correct in thinking most deem them equivalent I still think we are right.
It's ok to disagree with people without being obnoxious you know !

I appreciate your feedback and apologize for the tone.
However, it doesn't stop you from being wrong. If I prefer Toyota over Honda, that's fine. That's an opinion. If I pretend like they aren't on the same level & pretend like Toyota is more like a Maybach, that's just silly... and incorrect.
I hate Beats with a passion & can't believe that I'm sticking up for their quality!! But, they are DEFINITELY on par with BOSE.
You are slightly confused about Beats quality, as they originally were WAY bass heavy & (as virtually every audio critic has noted), have balanced this issue in each successive version. You are VERY confused over BOSE quality, which has only ever compared favorably to "throw away" headphones. I have literally NEVER read a single review putting them on par with a similar price headphone from a reputable company (Shure, Etymotic, Beyerdynamic, Grado, Sennheiser, Audio Technica, et al)
They are (both) midrange headphones sold at high end prices. Love them or hate them, that is an undeniable fact.
 
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