Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Yep. The 'banning Beats' angle is a ridiculous Applecentric slant on the deal, even if the Beats brand is the most high profile 'loser'.

Exactly. The players can't wear Sony, Sennheiser, Grado, Audio Techinca, etc etc.

Adidas was the official sponsor of the World Cup. Guess what brand most star players have a contract with?
 
I'll give you over-priced, but over-hyped? I've rarely seen Bose advertisements in media, they seem rather quiet when it comes to their products. I hear more from people out to bash them at every turn. I'm not defending their products, but do they really warrant so much hate? :confused:

I rarely see beats advertisements...
 
NFL just wants players to be on alert instead of listening to their favorite Aqua - Barbie Girl album. :p

Its like acting like a bunch of school-kids "You can't chew gum in class."
 
Yeah, I bet you're part of the NFL legal defense team. :rolleyes:

You really should stop talking....you have no idea what you're talking about. There is no legal issue upon which any player or the companies they represent can bring a successful action.
 
You really should stop talking....you have no idea what you're talking about. There is no legal issue upon which any player or the companies they represent can bring a successful action.

Legal issue or not this would be a great opportunity for Richard Sherman to get more attention if he made a lot of noise about it and symbolically tried to fight it! One strategy would be for him to appeal to the fans! There is no such thing as bad publicity! :D Who knows? It could gain some traction!
 
Again, I'm not suggesting that the player can sue the NFL. I'm simply saying that the player MUST pay back any money they received as part of the endorsement deal.

WRONG.

Do you think all the player with endorsement deals from Reebok, or Adidas, or Puma, etc. are not still getting paid or have given back any money?
 
Business is business but I think this is a bit silly. People know who is wearing Beats and if they don't they'll see them wearing elsewhere. I understand not bringing them to the table, post-game interviews but if I have a group of reporters attacking me after a game in the locker room where I keep my stuff, why shouldn't I be able to wear them?

Sounds like insecurity and lack of faith in their product.
 
This stupid remark about the nfl is only made by highly uninformed people.

Only the NFL Management Council and the NFL League Office are not for profits. NFL Ventures LLC, which holds all the subs that actually make the money is not a not for profit.
 
What do you suggest for quality in-ear headphones? I have tried a few in the $175-$220 range, but each lacked in one area or another. I appreciate it!

I am a big fan of Shure. Go to an audiologist (sensaphonics does the molds so hit their site to find an audiologist in your area) and get a custom molded pair of in ear monitors and be done with the rubbish. There is a reason just about every pro musician uses them on stage night after night; comfort and quality sound.

The Custom IEM Sleeves link on the left of the Sensaphonics site is where you will find the Shure models.
 
Last edited:
No surprise, NFL gets a lot of money from its marketing efforts, of course they don't want their business partners undermined.
 
One thing that stands out for me - Apple bought Beats. Apple creates quality speakers and headphones. Beats products will improve under Apple's leadership. Bose and other companies have some serious competition.

Many of the comments in this thread are really immature and childish. It's been painful to read. What makes Bose and Beats products "crap" I'll never know. Sure, they may not be the best in every scenario and with every sound reproduction, but are they really "crap"? I guess I should go read some technical reviews of the products before I begin to argue this point with people that don't want to listen. :p
 
Bose is way better anyway

Haven't read the whole thread so maybe someone's already mentioned the fact that Apple is known for quality and Beats..... isn't.
We have tried every single Beats gear and none even approach the quality of Bose's products, why would Apple buy a company which runs (mysteriously) on cool factor and not quality?
 
Haven't read the whole thread so maybe someone's already mentioned the fact that Apple is known for quality and Beats..... isn't.
We have tried every single Beats gear and none even approach the quality of Bose's products, why would Apple buy a company which runs (mysteriously) on cool factor and not quality?

Lol, stick with a subject that you have the VAGUEST clue about!
I think that most agree BOSE & Beats are virtually identical in sound quality vs price ratio; that is to say- they both have a slightly higher than average sound quality, but falling short of stellar or premium... & they both are sold at a significant premium above what you can buy a similarly sounding product for; due largely to brand recognition in both instances.
Lots of nuances in audio equipment come down to personal preference... however, pretending like BOSE and Beats aren't even of similar caliber doesn't come down to opinion or preference, it's just a factually inaccurate statement.
 
What makes Bose and Beats products "crap" I'll never know. Sure, they may not be the best in every scenario and with every sound reproduction, but are they really "crap"?

If you go look at tech sites that go into detail about frequency response, you'll find that some brands and model headphones are a better value than Beats or Bose headphones, however most of the animosity voiced when the brand Beats is mentioned is due to fear of association with the stereotypical Beats customer.

I have a feeling Bose is exactly the same on that front. Something like people that buy Bose don't know what good sound is, they're just old people with lots of money to throw at headphones or something.

Then you have the niche brands. Seriously though, it's funny because if you mention beats, bose, or even skullcandy, you'll get some kinda reply that often has a cussword or two in it.
 
One thing that stands out for me - Apple bought Beats. Apple creates quality speakers and headphones. Beats products will improve under Apple's leadership. Bose and other companies have some serious competition.

Many of the comments in this thread are really immature and childish. It's been painful to read. What makes Bose and Beats products "crap" I'll never know. Sure, they may not be the best in every scenario and with every sound reproduction, but are they really "crap"? I guess I should go read some technical reviews of the products before I begin to argue this point with people that don't want to listen. :p

Apple does not create quality headphones or speakers . That is why people hoped apple purchased a company that did to prove thier range.

The only reason people label them as crap is the quality of sound at their price point . They are hugely overpriced .

There are a number if Bose products that are actually very good .

The second generation of beats is suppose to be better than the first, which in fact was crap sound quality.

Let your ears judge, try some on .
 
I am a big fan of Shure. Go to an audiologist (sensaphonics does the molds so hit their site to find an audiologist in your area) and get a custom molded pair of in ear monitors and be done with the rubbish. There is a reason just about every pro musician uses them on stage night after night; comfort and quality sound.

The Custom IEM Sleeves link on the left of the Sensaphonics site is where you will find the Shure models.

Hmmm....
While Shure makes a fairly quality product. Having owned them and Etymotic... I couldn't in good conscience recommend the Shure. You're talking about only a $20 premium for the hf5s vs the 215s.
Etymotic also supports the custom fit; but if you choose not to go that route, their tip options are far superior in my opinion. They sound sooooo good. When I first got them; I was walking around the block and laughed out loud at my neighbor... his mower had died, yet he seemingly didn't notice & was still pushing it like an idiot. Then I noticed the grass spewing from the side & my jaw dropped!!!!!! For serious: the noise isolation is THAT good.
 
Last edited:
If you go look at tech sites that go into detail about frequency response, you'll find that some brands and model headphones are a better value than Beats or Bose headphones, however most of the animosity voiced when the brand Beats is mentioned is due to fear of association with the stereotypical Beats customer.

I have a feeling Bose is exactly the same on that front. Something like people that buy Bose don't know what good sound is, they're just old people with lots of money to throw at headphones or something.

Then you have the niche brands. Seriously though, it's funny because if you mention beats, bose, or even skullcandy, you'll get some kinda reply that often has a cussword or two in it.

People who buy apple gear are likely to buy Bose . The people I am talking about are the ones that just want it to work, without hassle. Dont forget apple do not make the fastest computers , Bose do not make the best speakers/headphones , for the average user they are great.

When you get into the world of headphones , you start messing around with portable or desktop Amps, certain headphones suited to certain music styles, etc etc. It's so much easier for someone just to buy a Bose headphone and be happy, works with all sources and plays all music types.
 
Lol, stick with a subject that you have the VAGUEST clue about!
I think that most agree BOSE & Beats are virtually identical in sound quality vs price ratio; that is to say- they both have a slightly higher than average sound quality, but falling short of stellar or premium... & they both are sold at a significant premium above what you can buy a similarly sounding product for; due largely to brand recognition in both instances.
Lots of nuances in audio equipment come down to personal preference... however, pretending like BOSE and Beats aren't even of similar caliber doesn't come down to opinion or preference, it's just a factually inaccurate statement.

Just say they are overpriced .

There is significant sound quality difference when comparing beats v Bose directly. beats are not made to sound good across multiple genres of music . Also Bose have some products that are far superior to anything beats has , like the soundlink mini.

Beats are a better cash cow, more profitable , they have a while to catch upto Bose in regards to sound quality. Unless you only want to listen to mega bass, Bose has no such product.
 
The NFL has no right to restrict players who've had prior deals in place. Otherwise, what's to prevent the NFL from just saying nobody can have any endorsement deals anywhere unless it's pre-approved by the league?

If a player has a contract with Beats, I would think the NFL should compensate the player for the term of his endorsement contract and pay any penalties on behalf of the player for breaking his contract with Beats.

And give him new headphones.

The NFL is just becoming more and more evil. I haven't even watched a game in the last two seasons. The gameplay isn't as good as it once was and all the NFL's political correctness is just boring me to death!

Not so. The NFL owns 100% of the rights to what happens on the field, the sidelines, and pre and post game interviews. That includes the ability to control what's broadcast during the game and around game time. The players can wear whatever they want on their own time, but they actually have no right to sell anything pertaining game time images. It's quite likely their in-game endorsement contracts have a disclaimer to the effect that the NFL can override them. If not, then the players could be sued by the third-party with which they had their overturned deals.
 
One thing that stands out for me - Apple bought Beats. Apple creates quality speakers and headphones. Beats products will improve under Apple's leadership. Bose and other companies have some serious competition.

Many of the comments in this thread are really immature and childish. It's been painful to read. What makes Bose and Beats products "crap" I'll never know. Sure, they may not be the best in every scenario and with every sound reproduction, but are they really "crap"? I guess I should go read some technical reviews of the products before I begin to argue this point with people that don't want to listen. :p

Ironic username for this comment considering that's the only reason Beats are even bought.

They are "crap" because price vs performance is off the charts terrible. $300 for the studios gets into a pretty decent area of headphones. Frankly it is a joke to compare Beats to a true pair of $300 headphones. Not even a competition.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.