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It reall sounds like iPhone 8 will have a massive bottom chin if only 5.1 inches of the screen are usable, it will look very odd and disjointed in my opinion with a large row of bottom buttons.

I agree massively. I do not get why the "bottom buttons" have to be so large. 0.65 inches of phone lost just from them, that is a lot of screen space if you really think about it. How is that a step forward? Going from 5.5 inches of useable space, down to 5.15 inches, makes no sense to me.

Hopefully they will somehow make that space at the bottom usable too when the virtual buttons are not in use. I mean the virtual buttons on my Android device do disappear on some apps and I get on with that.
 
I agree massively. I do not get why the "bottom buttons" have to be so large. 0.65 inches of phone lost just from them, that is a lot of screen space if you really think about it. How is that a step forward? Going from 5.5 inches of useable space, down to 5.15 inches, makes no sense to me.

Hopefully they will somehow make that space at the bottom usable too when the virtual buttons are not in use. I mean the virtual buttons on my Android device do disappear on some apps and I get on with that.
The 0.65 inch is not just lost by the function area. It is also lost with the curved edges of the display. Apple doesn' t seem to give it any function, just an esthetic one. Visual effect will be nice though. And at least it won' t be affected by accidental touches on the sides.
But i would really love a plus model of this design with an all screen design in the footprint of a 7 plus.
 
I do wish everyone would STOP with the bogus claim this iPhone 8 will 'have similar dimensions to the iPhone 7 4.7"' because that's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.....aahhhh

Look at the LG G6, with its 5.8" screen:

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It is between the iPhone Plus and 4.7" in size, it does not have smiliar physical dimensions to the 4.7" iPhone apart from thickness, it's slightly wider and about a centimetre bigger.
So unless Apple intends to curve and wrap the display around its entire edge including top and bottom it'll be physically bigger. And if they did that, good luck affording one and don't ever ever ever ever drop it!

For comparison, the sizes are:

LG G6: 148.9 X 71.9 X 7.9 mm

iPhone 7 Plus: 158.2 X 77.9 X 7.3 mm

iPhone 7 4.7": 138.3 X 67.1 X 7.1 mm
 
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I do wish everyone would STOP with the bogus claim this iPhone 8 will 'have similar dimensions to the iPhone 7 4.7"' because that's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.....aahhhh

Look at the LG G6, with its 5.8" screen:

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It is between the iPhone Plus and 4.7" in size, it does not have smiliar physical dimensions to the 4.7" iPhone apart from thickness, it's slightly wider and about a centimetre bigger.
So unless Apple intends to curve and wrap the display around its entire edge including top and bottom it'll be physically bigger. And if they did that, good luck affording one and don't ever ever ever ever drop it!
It's quite simple with Apple, look at premium phones from others today and you'll have your 8. Up the price by at least 1/3 for the :apple: and voila: your iPhone 8. If you expect something new, never seen before design, get ready for a big disappointment.
 
Reserved screen space in the chin for virtual buttons is a huge step backwards in my opinion. The Samsung galaxy phone has been doing this for years, ok not quite to the level Apple would being part of the screen and more than likely dynamic, but it still seems counter productive to a good sized screen in a smaller footprint!

I have a good idea why Apple would do this as well... There was another report if I remember rightly stating they were having trouble integrating a working Touch ID solution under the screen, and with the lower portion reserved for a dynamic button row they can wrap it around a virtual home button with Touch ID and say the iPhone has taken a leaf from the MacBooks book with Touchbar.

Personally I'm not in to this prospect and feel it would be a waste of screen real estate. I just hope Apple manage to figure out how to get Touch ID working under a functional screen area and switch up some of the gestures and iOS behaviours to compensate for the removal of the home button, such as moving Notification Center and Control Center to a new redesigned full screen space similar to Notification Center on Mac OS accessible from a swipe in to the right side of the screen. Freeing up the swipe down gesture for minimising the on screen app and the swipe up gesture for invoking the app switcher! Seems a lot simpler to me as well...
 
It's quite simple with Apple, look at premium phones from others today and you'll have your 8. Up the price by at least 1/3 for the :apple: and voila: your iPhone 8. If you expect something new, never seen before design, get ready for a big disappointment.

I think your expectations are already too high. Until we have cortex implants, there are very, very few form factors available for how we use these mobile devices.

Oh, and, seen any high end phones from other manufacturers? They all look exactly like iPhone ripoffs, all the way down to their advertising. It's impossible to tell them apart.
 
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I think your expectations are already too high. Until we have cortex implants, there are very, very few form factors available for how we use these mobile devices.

Oh, and, seen any high end phones from other manufacturers? They all look exactly like iPhone ripoffs, all the way down to their advertising. It's impossible to tell them apart.
Yep they're sure look alike all the same. But the completion has already smaller bezels. Huawei had already phones with dual cameras 6 months before the iPhone 7 plus came out. Apple really needs to differentiate because you can only sell premium while you're better then the rest. It's fair to say that even the latest version of Android is ahead of iOS. Luckily for Apple it takes so long before the carriers would let you upgrade. But that to is only a matter of time.
 
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It's quite simple with Apple, look at premium phones from others today and you'll have your 8. Up the price by at least 1/3 for the :apple: and voila: your iPhone 8. If you expect something new, never seen before design, get ready for a big disappointment.

I think you'll find Apple will be doubling the cost of the iPhone 8 over other flagships.. that's what the rumours are saying.

I think your expectations are already too high. Until we have cortex implants, there are very, very few form factors available for how we use these mobile devices.

Oh, and, seen any high end phones from other manufacturers? They all look exactly like iPhone ripoffs, all the way down to their advertising. It's impossible to tell them apart.

Actually Apple copies everyone else just as much, like if we get a bezeless curved OLED screen design iPhone then it's a direct rip off of Samsungs phones, and only a couple copy Apples advertising, not ALL of them. But what do you expect? It's at the same stage as before the iPhone existed where everything was similar or the same... you'll need another Apple to enter the market offering another fresh take to rejuvenate the market..

Or wait for bendable screen roll up phones with batteries that charge in 5 minutes and last months.as they keep promising....

I think I'm going to look at a bigger phone next, I like my iPhone 6S and I like Apples TouchID, but my eyes would like a bigger screen haha, but I definitely dislike the Plus physical size, and I refuse to spend literally double the cost of my iPad Pro on an iPhone which is where the 8 is rumoured to be priced! That's ridiculous. I will look at the G6 though as my Nexus 5 they made was one of the best phones I've ever owned over several years, still have it too. Plus if the G6 costs half that of the iPhone 8...

Will be an interesting year for sales this year.
 
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inaccurate reporting from Nikkei?

All we care about is coming first, not accuracy.

Technically, none of the rumors on this website or considered "Accurate." What would make Nikkei any more accurate than Ming Kuo or any other source for that matter? It's all speculation until proven otherwise.
 
Lol, most phone manufacturers use Amoled for years now... would you say those are inferior to Apple's offerings?
[doublepost=1488707910][/doublepost]Apple should already be all Oled by now: iMac, MacBook (pro). Everything! At premium prices you expect the latest and greatest.

Diamond-shaped OLED subpixels, Pentile-shaped OLED subpixels.
These are subpixel arrangements of current OLED displays on the market. Search for them, and check the disadvantages of such arrangements. Perhaps that could give you a new light of why Apple did not change to OLED yet.
I'm sure they will release OLED displays when they can make subpixel arrangements similar to those of traditional RGB IPS displays.
 
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I do wish everyone would STOP with the bogus claim this iPhone 8 will 'have similar dimensions to the iPhone 7 4.7"' because that's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.....aahhhh

Look at the LG G6, with its 5.8" screen:

lg-g6-4786.jpg


It is between the iPhone Plus and 4.7" in size, it does not have smiliar physical dimensions to the 4.7" iPhone apart from thickness, it's slightly wider and about a centimetre bigger.
So unless Apple intends to curve and wrap the display around its entire edge including top and bottom it'll be physically bigger. And if they did that, good luck affording one and don't ever ever ever ever drop it!

For comparison, the sizes are:

LG G6: 148.9 X 71.9 X 7.9 mm

iPhone 7 Plus: 158.2 X 77.9 X 7.3 mm

iPhone 7 4.7": 138.3 X 67.1 X 7.1 mm
that LG G6 has a flat 5.7" (not 5.8") and its flat...the suppose iphone 8 that is rumored to be almost in the same dimensions with the ip 7, has a flat 5.2 or max 5.3" and with edge display that in total makes a 5.7 or 5.8"
So it is possible
 
Diamond-shaped OLED subpixels, Pentile-shaped OLED subpixels.
These are subpixel arrangements of current OLED displays on the market. Search for them, and check the disadvantages of such arrangements. Perhaps that could give you a new light of why Apple did not change to OLED yet.
I'm sure they will release OLED displays when they can make subpixel arrangements similar to those of traditional RGB LDS displays.
Well, wait a bit what Samsung S8 has to offer. I'm sure Apple will be using the same screens and surely not better. Samsung is providing the screens to Apple.
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that LG G6 has a flat 5.7" (not 5.8") and its flat...the suppose iphone 8 that is rumored to be almost in the same dimensions with the ip 7, has a flat 5.2 or max 5.3" and with edge display that in total makes a 5.7 or 5.8"
So it is possible
So you mean it will be the same as last years Galaxy S7 edge?
 
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Seems like Apple is doing one big design loop - had a glass back then went to metal and now back to glass again. Lets hope it's Gorilla Glass or even sapphire as no doubt people will be concerned about the glass breaking upon it being dropped.

everyone talks about this Gorilla or Sapphire glass as if its a god send...it still shatters in to a million pieces when dropped. All i remember from the iPhone 4/4s days is seeing the publics completely smashed devices. Aesthetically brilliant, functionally awful.
 
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that LG G6 has a flat 5.7" (not 5.8") and its flat...the suppose iphone 8 that is rumored to be almost in the same dimensions with the ip 7, has a flat 5.2 or max 5.3" and with edge display that in total makes a 5.7 or 5.8"
So it is possible

No it's not. You check out the dimensions of the bezeless Galaxy S8 with its curved edge 5.8" screen and you'll realise this even more. The display hasn't got a magic separate screen you know, it's just one big 5.8" screen on the rumoured iPhone 8 and it WILL BE physically bigger then the standard iPhone 7.
 
No it's not. You check out the dimensions of the bezeless Galaxy S8 with its curved edge 5.8" screen and you'll realise this even more. The display hasn't got a magic separate screen you know, it's just one big 5.8" screen on the rumoured iPhone 8 and it WILL BE physically bigger then the standard iPhone 7.
Yes,

But it does have bezels on the bottom and up. If apple manages to at least loose the lower bezel, it is possible.
 
Yes,

But it does have bezels on the bottom and up. If apple manages to at least loose the lower bezel, it is possible.

Yes and then the screen will be even more prone to cracking, LG even stated it's designed its G6 phone with the bezels as it's much more durable, and I've seen plenty of smashed iPhone screens, losing the top and bottom bezel will add to it, and even then it will still be bigger then the iPhone 7.
 
We want a beautiful object not a piece of resistance object.When you buy a rolls Royce you take care of it,you don't "scratch" it or hit it
 
We want a beautiful object not a piece of resistance object.When you buy a rolls Royce you take care of it,you don't "scratch" it or hit it

Your in the minority there as most people would like a phone that's durable before being a fashion statement piece of jewellery. Apple doesn't make the most durable handsets as it is, I think most people spending over a $1000 on a mobile phone want one who's screen doesn't crack at the slightest bump... then again Apple are the undeniable masters of form over function, more so now then ever.
 
I will never buy a phablet-sized phone. The iPhone 6s already feels too big, though I find it a passable sacrifice in exchange for the larger screen. Last year I skipped buying a new iPhone for the first time since 2007. If it turns out that the OLED screen and new design are only available in an even larger form factor I won't be buying a new one this year either.
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want one who's screen doesn't crack at the slightest bump.

I've owned every iPhone since the original, except for last year's 7 model. I've never used screen protectors, and when I've used some protection it's always been something minimal like Apple's leather case. Though I frequently drop my iPhone, I've only had one with a cracked screen: an iPhone 4 that I dropped while shooting video on a bike. To suggest that iPhones are fragile is ridiculous.
 
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I have used an iPhone 4 with a bumper-type rim around it and its glass kept just fine. Sure, if one drops it on something nasty, it will still crack, but that same fall would also cause some damage to the current metal (aluminium) casing. Ironically, iPhone 5C (plastic) had the sturdiest body for me. All the rest needed some sort of protective gear to keep their looks.
Some damage on the aluminium, not much. Gorilla Glass? I`ve seen what happened to my screen (iPhone 6). Ca. 100€, at that time, and Apple exchanged the screen. Saphire Glass on the upcoming phones, please!
 
Thats what i never understood with software buttons on Android either. Why waste so much screen for it? They could just have them fade in and out when necessary instead of showing them at all times. I mean this would be the whole advantage of having software buttons to me in the first place ...
You must not have ever used an Android phone with on-screen buttons because that's exactly what they do. When you watch videos or open an app designed to go full screen, the buttons slide away until you swipe the edge to bring them back.
 
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