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Your in the minority there as most people would like a phone that's durable before being a fashion statement piece of jewellery. Apple doesn't make the most durable handsets as it is, I think most people spending over a $1000 on a mobile phone want one who's screen doesn't crack at the slightest bump... then again Apple are the undeniable masters of form over function, more so now then ever.
than those people should buy a Samsung Active if im not mistaken, that was meant to be more durable
 
I hope they use american steel in it.

Oh, yeah.... me too.
We don't need good jobs in this country. Steel smelting mills & labor jobs that don't even require a high school diploma, that destroy worker's health, in industries that are major polluters should be our focus and end goal.
I think you bring up a fantastic point!

/generous heap of sarcasm
 
I think you'll find Apple will be doubling the cost of the iPhone 8 over other flagships.. that's what the rumours are saying.



Actually Apple copies everyone else just as much, like if we get a bezeless curved OLED screen design iPhone then it's a direct rip off of Samsungs phones, and only a couple copy Apples advertising, not ALL of them. But what do you expect? It's at the same stage as before the iPhone existed where everything was similar or the same... you'll need another Apple to enter the market offering another fresh take to rejuvenate the market..

Or wait for bendable screen roll up phones with batteries that charge in 5 minutes and last months.as they keep promising....

I think I'm going to look at a bigger phone next, I like my iPhone 6S and I like Apples TouchID, but my eyes would like a bigger screen haha, but I definitely dislike the Plus physical size, and I refuse to spend literally double the cost of my iPad Pro on an iPhone which is where the 8 is rumoured to be priced! That's ridiculous. I will look at the G6 though as my Nexus 5 they made was one of the best phones I've ever owned over several years, still have it too. Plus if the G6 costs half that of the iPhone 8...

Will be an interesting year for sales this year.
I know it's hard for someone like you to grasp this, but Apple has patent filings from 2012 for a curved edge iPhone. It's no secret, and it should be no surprise, that Samsung scouts Apple's patents for ideas. They've been doing it for years. Microsoft is no different.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...-to-copy-samsungs-edge-smartphone-design.html

Touchscreen iMac patent discussed with the Surface Studio launch:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...roduces-surface-studio-to-challenge-imac.html
 
You must not have ever used an Android phone with on-screen buttons because that's exactly what they do. When you watch videos or open an app designed to go full screen, the buttons slide away until you swipe the edge to bring them back.

on my Nexus it doesnt. it just ends up being a black bar at the bottom
 
I will never buy a phablet-sized phone. The iPhone 6s already feels too big, though I find it a passable sacrifice in exchange for the larger screen. Last year I skipped buying a new iPhone for the first time since 2007. If it turns out that the OLED screen and new design are only available in an even larger form factor I won't be buying a new one this year either.
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I've owned every iPhone since the original, except for last year's 7 model. I've never used screen protectors, and when I've used some protection it's always been something minimal like Apple's leather case. Though I frequently drop my iPhone, I've only had one with a cracked screen: an iPhone 4 that I dropped while shooting video on a bike. To suggest that iPhones are fragile is ridiculous.

So are you suggesting that as YOU have not any issues that the iPhone screen doesn't smash when it's dropped? Seems like you are, I feel pretty confident their are plenty of people on here who have had their screens smash on their iPhones of all types.

than those people should buy a Samsung Active if im not mistaken, that was meant to be more durable

No, I'm starting you want a more fragile phone more prone to a smashing screen because you want a pretty phone. Drop tests seem to show the Samsung Edge design smashes more easily, and you want that design around the whole screen. Mind you I'm sure you'll have no problem then paying Apple $100 more for its screen protection option in the form of a case.
 
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Yes and then the screen will be even more prone to cracking, LG even stated it's designed its G6 phone with the bezels as it's much more durable, and I've seen plenty of smashed iPhone screens, losing the top and bottom bezel will add to it, and even then it will still be bigger then the iPhone 7.
Um... the entire front of the iPhone has been glass since day one. The amount of usable screen area would have zero impact. If anything, it may be a bit stronger, since there's no cutout for a home button. You really didn't think that through.
 
OLED on a 5 inch device is a joke. That's not what the market wants

Lolwut??
The 4.7" iPhone outsells the 5.5" almost 2 to 1; I'd say the 4.7" form factor is definitely "what people want".
If they can shoehorn a screen halfway between the size of a 4.7" & a 5.5" into the smaller form factor, I think we've got a "best of both worlds" situation on our hands.
I think if they have a TouchBar/TouchID strip along the bottom with a piece of deformable liquid metal at the center, under the screen & atop the TapticEngine, people will flock...
We've seen that the TouchBar on MBP can run Doom, etc. so this certainly opens the possibility for your bottom row of most used apps, to double as a Notification Center without lighting up the rest of your screen, for example... In a world where the main iOS complaint is "not enough customizability, or widgets", this adds a new dimension of personalization from an aesthetic AND a usability standpoint.
 
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Everyone knows this product will be trash: underpowered, bad OS, too little RAM, plagued by "vapor-gate" (insert own term here) and a shadow of whatever Samsung, HTC, Microsoft, Google introduces. It will just be some ripoff of a previously released brand x device. Just ask all the Fandroid and Windows "experts" who haunt this site.:rolleyes:
 
So are you suggesting that as YOU have not any issues that the iPhone screen doesn't smash when it's dropped? Seems like you are, I feel pretty confident their are plenty of people on here who have had their screens smash on their iPhones of all types.



No, I'm starting you want a more fragile phone more prone to a smashing screen because you want a pretty phone. Drop tests seem to show the Samsung Edge design smashes more easily, and you want that design around the whole screen. Mind you I'm sure you'll have no problem then paying Apple $100 more for its screen protection option in the form of a case.
Hell, my kid cracked my 7 Plus screen earlier this week, dropped it and it even HAS a case on it.
 
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Um... the entire front of the iPhone has been glass since day one. The amount of usable screen area would have zero impact. If anything, it may be a bit stronger, since there's no cutout for a home button. You really didn't think that through.

No you haven't thought at all.... I mean does this:

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Look like this:

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No it does not, to suggest the all glass front iPhone screen will mean their is NO difference to durability or usability when, as you wish it to, has those screen edges stretched to and curved and bent over ALL the edges, its daft really.
 
Your in the minority there as most people would like a phone that's durable before being a fashion statement piece of jewellery. Apple doesn't make the most durable handsets as it is, I think most people spending over a $1000 on a mobile phone want one who's screen doesn't crack at the slightest bump... then again Apple are the undeniable masters of form over function, more so now then ever.

You couldn't be more wrong!
YOU are in the (extreme) minority & inexplicably assume everyone else feels like you.
It has been proven time and time again, that something as superficial and "fashion statement" related as a new color can cause a huge spike in sales. Hence, the rose gold 6S, the jet black 7, etc.
Further.... there are probably around a thousand sales of cheap, flimsy, gaudy, or jewel encrusted cases for every one Otterbox Defender or Lifeproof sold. One need only glance around in ANY public venue to refute your claim!
Unless you live in a mining community or something, you'll see that the vast majority of smartphone users that opt for a case at all, have chosen one on style (be that the colors of their sport team of choice, a particular texture, the ability to hold a credit card, etc.) NOT on sheer protective ability.
 
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This looks more like a Samsung copy than something new and revolutionary.

If you absolutely must put a "slim top bezel" for the cam, because the Apple engineers are incapable of solving the problem, consider putting a cam at the bottom as well, so it is symmetrical and you don't need turn the phone around if you pick it up the wrong way.
No 1. No-one has said it's going to be revolutionary, that's just want people want.
No 2. There is no way apple will include extra redundant cameras because of space and (more likely) profit margins.
 
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So the 5,8 iPhone is actually 5,0, but exactly 5,15 with a 4,7 footprint....pretty confusing :)
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Haha Steve was wrong on one count :) He must have had a bad hair-day....


I am comfortable with 4.7" physical size, so if the new phone has bigger screen within the same physical size, I am all over this phone. I never jumped on + size cause for me it is stupidly too big. I am hoping that this new phone will remediate this issue for me.
 
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You couldn't be more wrong!
YOU are in the (extreme) minority & inexplicably assume everyone else feels like you.
It has been proven time and time again, that something as superficial and "fashion statement" related can cause a huge spike in sales. Hence, the rose gold 6S, the jet black 7, etc.
Further.... there are probably around a thousand sales of cheap, flimsy, gaudy, or jewel encrusted cases for every one Otterbox Defender or Lifeproof sold. One need only glance around in ANY public venue to refute your claim!
Unless you live in a mining community or something, you'll see that the vast majority of smartphone users that opt for a case at all, have chosen one on style (be that the colors of their sport team of choice, a particular texture, the ability to hold a credit card, etc.) NOT on sheer protective ability.

You've totally missed my point.... I'm also not as certain as you obviously are that a new iPhone priced at OVER $1000 or in my country £1000 will cause a sales spike... It'll sell as it's an extra new device to the lineup, but I doubt very much it'll have the same sales impact as the current models did at launch..

But by all means, jump in in my reply to someone else and declare that I'm wrong and that EVERYONE WOULD LOVE A LESS DURABLE IPHONE THAT'S MORE PRETTY AND COSTS 1000 PLUS!
 
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Thats what i never understood with software buttons on Android either. Why waste so much screen for it? They could just have them fade in and out when necessary instead of showing them at all times. I mean this would be the whole advantage of having software buttons to me in the first place ...

Err, the software buttons contain the home button. In media viewing (movies, pictures, etc.), they are supposed to disappear, giving you the full-screen. But in normal apps...you do want the software buttons available at all times because they contain the home button and the back button, primary navigation features in Android.

Even in iPhones...wouldn't it be annoying if every time you wanted to hit the home button, you'd first have to make it appear and then hit it? IMO, a loss of flow, but maybe others don't care about two actions to hit Home.

I do wish everyone would STOP with the bogus claim this iPhone 8 will 'have similar dimensions to the iPhone 7 4.7"' because that's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.....aahhhh

Look at the LG G6, with its 5.8" screen:

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It is between the iPhone Plus and 4.7" in size, it does not have smiliar physical dimensions to the 4.7" iPhone apart from thickness, it's slightly wider and about a centimetre bigger.
So unless Apple intends to curve and wrap the display around its entire edge including top and bottom it'll be physically bigger. And if they did that, good luck affording one and don't ever ever ever ever drop it!

For comparison, the sizes are:

LG G6: 148.9 X 71.9 X 7.9 mm

iPhone 7 Plus: 158.2 X 77.9 X 7.3 mm

iPhone 7 4.7": 138.3 X 67.1 X 7.1 mm

Your mistake: you're assuming that they'll keep a 16:9 screen ratio. They won't. Go measure an iPhone 7's diagonal from corner to corner; it's 6 inches (or do the Pythagorean Theorem with the length/width you cited). Thus, a 5.8" screen is VERY possible within the physical footprint of the iPhone 7.

Xiaomi did the same. Their bezel-less Xiami Mix has a 17:9 screen ratio. This iPhone 8 is likely 17:9 or even 18:9/2:1.

No it's not. You check out the dimensions of the bezeless Galaxy S8 with its curved edge 5.8" screen and you'll realise this even more. The display hasn't got a magic separate screen you know, it's just one big 5.8" screen on the rumoured iPhone 8 and it WILL BE physically bigger then the standard iPhone 7.

See above. Real bezel-killing phones cannot use 16:9 screen ratios and keep the phones normal-sized.
 
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Wasn't OLED the technology that gives burn in and one of the blue or green colors die too quickly?
or was that Amoled? Or just LED? Its getting confusing...
 
My guess is this bottom function area will be the iPhone's "Touch Bar", may even be called that, and will probably by programmable in the same way. Apps will be able to put augmented controls there.

Say, how would this work when you have the phone in landscape mode? Or upside down? How will you even tell which is the top when you pick it up with the screen off?
 
At this point, I probably will stop reading 'next' iPhone articles. The OLED phone I am interested in, but I'm not sure I want to spend that much money on anyone's phone. The 7s version I'll look at when it really is available.
 
My guess is this bottom function area will be the iPhone's "Touch Bar", may even be called that, and will probably by programmable in the same way. Apps will be able to put augmented controls there.

Say, how would this work when you have the phone in landscape mode? Or upside down? How will you even tell which is the top when you pick it up with the screen off?

I am pretty sure they can use some software trick to ensure that function area is part of screen space when you are in portrait mode playing games, or watching photos or videos. Otherwise image wont be in center of the device which will look horrible. Even today, area with buttons for Phone, Safari, Mail, Music goes away once you start an app or watch movie or photo.

I think size of current 4.7 inch phone is more preferred over 5.5 inch phone size. But unless they remove bezels completely, diagonal size of 5.8 inch is not possible with 4.7 size phone. And if they remove bezel completely on 5.5 inch phone, it will provide diagonal size way more than 5.8 inch.
 
I know it's hard for someone like you to grasp this, but Apple has patent filings from 2012 for a curved edge iPhone. It's no secret, and it should be no surprise, that Samsung scouts Apple's patents for ideas. They've been doing it for years. Microsoft is no different.

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...-to-copy-samsungs-edge-smartphone-design.html

Touchscreen iMac patent discussed with the Surface Studio launch:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...roduces-surface-studio-to-challenge-imac.html

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.. I missed the typical Apple zealot reply, yes we all know everyone else in the industry has time machines and they travel into the future constantly to copy Apple..

Your mistake: you're assuming that they'll keep a 16:9 screen ratio. They won't. Go measure an iPhone 7's diagonal from corner to corner; it's 6 inches (or do the Pythagorean Theorem with the length/width you cited). Thus, a 5.8" screen is VERY possible within the physical footprint of the iPhone 7.

Xiaomi did the same. Their bezel-less Xiami Mix has a 17:9 screen ratio. This iPhone 8 is likely 17:9 or even 18:9/2:1.

See above. Real bezel-killing phones cannot use 16:9 screen ratios and keep the phones normal-sized.

Not my mistake at all, I never implied bezels phones would use 16:9 ratios, the G6 doesn't. Bit Apple likes to keep its resolutions to match it's apps, it doesn't like fragmenting the market on that front and never has, everything scales and its why the iPhone 7 is 760p and not 720p.
The iPhone is rumoured to have a curved edge display also so your argument is kind of pointless anyway.. I am keeping that in mind, I bet anything the iPhone 8 will simply copy the Galaxy S8 design and nothing more.. and I bet it will be physically bigger then then the iPhone 7 is.
 
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Ive only has one idea, make it thinner. So I want to know how much thinner this phone is going to be?

Really? Ive only has one idea and that's to make the iPhone thinner? Then explain the last three generations of the iPhones having literally the same thickness.

And if Ive only cares about a "Thinner" iPhone, Who gets the credit for coming up with 3D Touch, haptic home button, taptic engine, stereo speakers, dual camera, etc. since Ive works in the "Thinner" Department, let me know who works in those other departments?
 
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