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It is saddening to see so many people here taking pleasure in the harassment of someone, just because he wrote a review they didn't approve of. Shameful really.

My guess is you didn't read his tweets? :p

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Once his review went live, members on MR were taking cheap shots at his bracelet etc. He has been trolled by Apple fans, and took him a while to loose it. Check the posts on MR, you will find our members were taking pleasure is ridiculing the guy before his meltdown.

Poor Mr. Patel. I almost cry..

But who is this Mr. Jean Louise in MR he's up against?

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I admit I was (still am maybe?) a big fan of the Verge, however I was really disappointed with the Apple Watch review. It 'looked' fantastic and went on forever so I was looking forward to reading it. Turns out I ended up skimming it as it lacked the fine detail I was looking for in such a review and just came off as casual and pretty unprofessional for a tech site.

As for Nilay, when he stated mentioning the looks of the bands etc, I must admit I laughed inside as I gazed at him looking awkward, wearing a suit with a spiked band on his wrist. Clueless comments from someone who doesn't get the Apple Watch or fashion. Personally nothing of what he said really left any kind of impression on me and quickly discarded much of what he said.

Now.. now.. don't insult the best review of Apple Watch yet or many will be angry at you. :D
 
Wow - he really screwed up big time. Gassé was just mentioning what evertone thinks. It is kind of weird to call the milanese loop ridiculous looking, when you wear a spikeband. There is nothing wrong with a spike band. but when you are having a rather extrovert and special fashion taste, then you probably shouldnt call other things "ridiculous" looking.

Gassé wasn´t rude. Nilay is a real dick on the otherhand calling people names. What is he - 5?
 
He rubs me the wrong way. Dude comes off like a complete ass. A grown man, and a person in his position, acting like a child on Twitter. Pathetic.
 
Just read through the tweets. Wow, just wow.
I actually liked the review when I read it, seemed reasonably well balanced unlike the reviewer it would seem.
 
Wow he really went off the deep end. I'm not old, white or a man or a suit although I'm a few years older than Nilay Patel and I thought his spiked bracelet was silly but whatever. He should've just said 'hey it is my personal style' and left it at that but no.
 
While I don't think The Verge review of the Apple watch is particularly great, I think Nilay is getting a bit of a hard time over nothing.

I think he took the ciritisism a bit personally and hasn't conducted himself very well in the fallout over Twitter, however, I think he did have a valid point to say he felt rediculous wearing the Milanese Loop.

The Milanese Loop is obviously not his style, you just need to look at his studded bracelet to know that, but he didn't say the Milanese Loop isn't a well made, nicely designed strap, he said HE felt rediculous wearing it. Completely valid.

It's not my style either, it's a bit feminine and dressy for my personal tastes, and I too wouldn't like to wear one.

So I think the mocking of him wearing his studded bracelet, which was probably mean't in good humour, should have been shrugged off by Nilay, because it completely misses the point of his review.

I can't defend his comments on Twitter, they did get personal, but I do think Nilay's dislike of the Milanese Loop is completely valid.
 
I haven't read all of this thread because I assume it'll be the usual villagers-wielding-pitchforks mob mentality that is at the heart of the internet.

It's no doubt very easy to criticise someone's fashion choices publicly and then poke fun at their reaction. Which of us wouldn't be hurt if someone criticised a favoured object? And then the mob piled in to add their own derision?

How much did The Verge's review cost you? Oh yeah. Nothing. Was the review useful? Yes, I think so. Does Patel's wrist thingy look a bit incongruous? I wouldn't wear it. Does he deserve to be savaged on the Internet for it? Hell no.

Nothing to be proud of here.
 
The Apple mob descended on him because he wrote a review they didn't like; his angry tweets came *after*.

They even mocked him for his choice of wristwear and tried to discredit him... just because he wrote a review.

Now he has retaliated and the mob are saying their feelings are hurt.

It is this aspect of the community that should be discredited, not the reviewers.
 
I haven't read all of this thread because I assume it'll be the usual villagers-wielding-pitchforks mob mentality that is at the heart of the internet.

It's no doubt very easy to criticise someone's fashion choices publicly and then poke fun at their reaction. Which of us wouldn't be hurt if someone criticised a favoured object? And then the mob piled in to add their own derision?

How much did The Verge's review cost you? Oh yeah. Nothing. Was the review useful? Yes, I think so. Does Patel's wrist thingy look a bit incongruous? I wouldn't wear it. Does he deserve to be savaged on the Internet for it? Hell no.

Nothing to be proud of here.

No one makes fun of his fashion choice per se. it is arther the combination of his review, the fact that he bashed the Watch on every occasion without even having tried one really , his weird arrogant appearances on tv.

It is not really spiteful aswell. At least less spiteful than his reaction on twitter to gassee.

Yes- the review is free. But he and his team make a ton of money by being a subject of public interest. you need to accept that in this case your actions will be discussed. Thats the reason why you make money - because you are public. It is the game. play it or go out.

You cant be a hollywood star and make millions off of advertising and then say "leave me alone you guys".

And yes- I really think under his reign the verge went downhill becoming more and more a clickbait hell and less of a serious tech journal website. I think you are really starting to see the effects of Topolskys absence. It is not that the disliked the apple watch. other reviews were sceptic aswell (topolsky's, Stern's), it is that the review was just badly written.
 
I haven't read all of this thread because I assume it'll be the usual villagers-wielding-pitchforks mob mentality that is at the heart of the internet.

It's no doubt very easy to criticise someone's fashion choices publicly and then poke fun at their reaction. Which of us wouldn't be hurt if someone criticised a favoured object? And then the mob piled in to add their own derision?

How much did The Verge's review cost you? Oh yeah. Nothing. Was the review useful? Yes, I think so. Does Patel's wrist thingy look a bit incongruous? I wouldn't wear it. Does he deserve to be savaged on the Internet for it? Hell no.

Nothing to be proud of here.

It's amazing how you can defend a guy for being an immature borderline racist on Twitter.
 
Nilay doesn't want to be a "suit"?

Man, thats even funnier than his spikey bracelet. This guy is the ultimate corporate stooge. The Verge itself is a mouthpiece for "suits", deceptively hidden behind edgy marketing. People really need to stop falling for it.
 
My problem with the Verge review was that there were 31 people involved. You don't need 31 people to review a product. And we know 31 people weren't actually using the watch on a regular basis for a week so how much can they meaningfully add to the review? No I don't need a "fashion" angle from Racked just because they're part of the Vox family.

And yeah if you go around wearing a spiked bracelet and then call a milanese loop bracelet "ridiculous" don't be surprised if someone gives you crap about it.

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The Apple mob descended on him because he wrote a review they didn't like; his angry tweets came *after*.

They even mocked him for his choice of wristwear and tried to discredit him... just because he wrote a review.

Now he has retaliated and the mob are saying their feelings are hurt.

It is this aspect of the community that should be discredited, not the reviewers.

Nobody would be talking about his choice of wristwear if he hadn't said the milanese loop looked ridiculous.
 
The Apple mob descended on him because he wrote a review they didn't like; his angry tweets came *after*.

They even mocked him for his choice of wristwear and tried to discredit him... just because he wrote a review.

Now he has retaliated and the mob are saying their feelings are hurt.

It is this aspect of the community that should be discredited, not the reviewers.

I actually liked his review. I thought the spiked bracelet was silly and his comment about feeling ridiculous wearing the milanese band was a contrast to the band he was wearing on his other hand. Now he is a public figure and if someone public pokes fun at what seems like a silly statement due to the contrast, then that isn't surprising. The surprising thing is he didn't handle it well at all and he started to take cheap shots due to it. This isn't someone finding someone's random instagram feed and making fun of their pictures. It is someone saying 'the contrast between what you said and what you do is amusing'.
 
Lol. What a douche.

I wonder if people accusing the 'mob' actually read what he wrote.

Sorry for partying everyone.
 
Nobody would be talking about his choice of wristwear if he hadn't said the milanese loop looked ridiculous.

I thought he meant it would look ridiculous, on him. Not enough spikes and all! :)

Seriously, that's what I thought.

Having said that, he should've laughed it off - or just not responded. Unless he's deliberately trying to get his name out there? I'd never heard of him before this debacle and his review did make some valid points.
 
I thought he meant it would look ridiculous, on him. Not enough spikes and all! :)

Seriously, that's what I thought.

Using the word "ridiculous" is just begging for people to comment on his choice of wrist wear. There are ways he could have said it's not for him without using the word ridiculous.
 
...it's stupid that people are actually defending him :/

I think it's more of an argument against hot-headedness. It never ends well.

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Using the word "ridiculous" is just begging for people to comment on his choice of wrist wear. There are ways he could have said it's not for him without using the word ridiculous.

With the conversational nature of the review, it seemed more like an off the cuff comment than a carefully scripted speech.

So yeah, if it WAS a carefully scripted dialog then he needs a better writer. (Unless, of course, the goal was to stir up notoriety by putting the trigger-word in there? Like I said, I'd never heard of him before, and he had some interesting things to say)
 
With the conversational nature of the review, it seemed more like an off the cuff comment than a carefully scripted speech.

So yeah, if it WAS a carefully scripted dialog then he needs a better writer.

The review was more about Patel and the Verge/Vox than it was about the Watch. The Verge is all about click bait headlines, page views and how great the Verge is these days. But hey it worked as that's the review most people talked about.
 
Apple watch is a fashion accessory, first and foremost. It's just part of the biz
You know, maybe that's the reason The Verge got the pre-release watch and not Ars Technica (another Conde Nast site). I would have preferred to see Andrew C's take on the AW, but it may have been too technical and not "fashiony" enough. Oh well, it's coming, I'm sure.

Edit: Nevermind. Old memory getting on. I thought Vox media (The Verge) was a sub brand of Conde Nast. It's not. My bad. Still looking forward to Ars' take on the AW.
 
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The review was more about Patel and the Verge/Vox than it was about the Watch.

Interesting. That's not how it came across to me.

I thought he had some valid points. The discussion at the bar with constant interruptions particularly resonated with me because that's what my job can be like. Too many people "talking" at once and drowning each other out in meetings. So much so that nothing gets achieved. The review illustrated that situation quite creatively. It was supposed to be annoying and frustrating.

Personally, I prefer one-to-one conversations. I can mute the phone and IM and focus on the discussion at hand without other people butting in competitively. It looks like I'd now need to remove my watch too.
 
Someone who's style involves wearing a spiked bracelet is perfectly entitled (and likely) to consider wearing a milanese loop ridiculous, just like a punk would consider wearing polished black formal shoes ridiculous. Yet everyone seems to think that because he wears one thing that they consider to be ridiculous, he can't have an opinion on anything else.

Anyway I'm out. This isn't going anywhere.
 
I've heard people rant about "old white men" before (like they're responsible for everything wrong in the world). But it sounds kinda racist if you aren't white. He probably didn't mean anything by it, but he should've thought that one through.

I'm black so I don't say stuff like that. Because it would sound super racist if a white person said, "Old black men," or "Old Indian men!" Everyone would jump down their throat. Being a minority doesn't give you a free pass IMHO.
 
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This is just hilarious all around...

Best line goes to Sam Biddle in his gawker story:

...which you'd think Patel would be used to by now, leaving home every day looking like GWAR's webmaster.

http://gawker.com/adult-website-editor-throws-twitter-tantrum-over-his-br-1697459743

Amazing!
 
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