NiN's Trent Reznor Speaks Out on Apple's App Store Rejection Policies

[Melrose]

*yawn* and the pious comments just get stupider...

That's just your opinion, actually.

Of course. The classic superstition of profanity. Tell me, have you ever used the word breast? Because that was a very offencive word in the early 1900s, and if you have, I have a feeling you are VERY arrogant and miserable.

I don't really see the reasoning here, but okay.

 

[ZiggyPastorius]

That's just your opinion, actually.



I don't really see the reasoning here, but okay.

Guess you better read the rest of the thread, then, because I've presented a way better argument than the people bitching about him using profanity have in this thread (or anywhere, really...). You're pretty late. That reply was my first and was only satirical to point out the absurdity of your correlation.

And that's just my opinion? Holy ****, I didn't realise that when I typed it. I thought I was typing your opinion. My bad.

Edit:

using profanity means someone is no longer popular LOL

Damn...can't argue with that FUD

 

[hob]

Censoring an article that talks about censorship is the very definition of irony.

amen to that.

I have been very anti-censorship for a long time.... I think parents should have to get their own special censored TV channels etc. etc. rather than having it inflicted across the mainstream.... this is bulllllllshit!

 

[myca]

What I find funny about this is that the Trent Video that praises Logic and MainStage is still up on the Apple website

http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/action/

But I guess that Trent is such a big time apple geek (like most of us here) that he has every right to rant, I even remember a powerbook being in some of NINs artwork.

As for Apples app approval, it does need a serious kick in the you know where, as these stories appear to be getting more common the bigger the app store gets.

 

[Melrose]

Guess you better read the rest of the thread, then, because I've presented a way better argument than the people bitching about him using profanity have in this thread (or anywhere, really...)

Regardless of the arguments you present, my only point is that what was the standard a century ago has nothing to do with standards today - and what standards may be in 2109 have no effect on our standards today either.

Even the entertainment industry recognizes a certain standard of profanity - that's why a film can be rated R simply for swearing. You can't make excuses for it now based on what the standard was then, or what the standard will be in the future. Profanity is fine with you - great - but the industry standard is against you despite your 'way better argument.'

...really, though, as if any of this matters. I can't stand NIN to begin with.

 

[ZiggyPastorius]

Regardless of the arguments you present, my only point is that what was the standard a century ago has nothing to do with standards today - and what standards may be in 2109 have no effect on our standards today either.

Even the entertainment industry recognizes a certain standard of profanity - that's why a film can be rated R simply for swearing. You can't make excuses for it now based on what the standard was then, or what the standard will be in the future. Profanity is fine with you - great - but the industry standard is against you despite your 'way better argument.'

...really, though, as if any of this matters. I can't stand NIN to begin with.

The post you quoted was a response to your original post, where you made the claim that using profanity made trent's points lesser, and using profanity made him arrogant. That's a superstition, and was the only thing I was concerned with in my post. Society perceiving profanity as negative, believe it or not, does not actually make a person unintelligent, which was my entire point.

 

[Melrose]

Did anyone actually say "Trent Reznor uses profanity so that means he is arrogant"?

In that case, I agree with you.

 

[aiterum]

afgafgafgaf how do people as prude as you function in the real world

 

[RaMaz07]

Arnold its NIN not NiN. you do this everytime.

 

[JimWNC]

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[ZiggyPastorius]

Did anyone actually say "Trent Reznor uses profanity so that means he is arrogant"?

In that case, I agree with you.

I can see his point to an extent, but his language impedes the very point he's trying to make. He just across as being arrogant and miserable.

Why is it that I always have to quote people's own posts in order for them to remember what they themselves said?

 

[pcorajr]

I don't see the problem, if I had kids I wouldn't want them downloading apps with bad language in them. I can block explicit songs.

If you had kids then it would be up to you not to allow them to access such material. Not Apple not NIN YOU AS A PARENT. But then I guess that's why you do not have kids.

 

[pcorajr]

The problem here is not NIN, is not the song is not the app. The problem here is Apple and their stupid assumption that they need to police everything and protect people from things that are a matter of personal taste.

In other words while some people find the app insulting or what ever it is they see wrong with it, others see a app that they want to buy or use. Who the hell is Apple to tell me what I can put on my device or not?

 

[iMaggot]

Trent is absolutely right: there's much more "objectionable content" available all over the internet and Apple's own iTunes store. Really, do they think that hearing the word f**k or s**t in a song would be the first and last time a child would ever hear those words?

C'mon Apple, you're smarter than this.

I agree man, I don't get why Apple doesn't make an "M rated" app store.

 

[dejo]

I agree man, I don't get why Apple doesn't make an "M rated" app store.

Um, they will be:
iPhone 3.0's Parental Controls to Loosen App Store Restrictions?

 

[swagi]

MSNBC jsut published an article on the 10 most offensive iPhone apps:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30522704/Tech_OffensiveiPhoneApps

Pretty hilarious what apple will let through sometimes... my app is on there (the booty call app) so I'm pleased, but we have been through a lot:

www.beardedpony.com

pjt

Thanx.

This list definitely shows the demographic of typical iPhone users - and it shows, that Trent is absolutely right.

And whoever wonders why iPhone doesn't leave the toy status - check this list. It's really mind-boggling to see what sells on the AppStore.

 

[dejo]

This list definitely shows the demographic of typical iPhone users...

It does? How?

 

[kas23]

It does? How?

I agree. It doesn't show that to me. A list of the top 10 apps would.

That said, this list does show me how hypocritical Apple is in terms of App approvals. Wow. Some of those are pretty sick.

 

[IronRoses]

Strange

I think Apple needs to put a certificate rules in place.

Like on movies: PG, 15, 18 and X rated.

Then people won't be able to whine when a certain app has wearing and sexual content.

Then again this is America, and you can sue anyone for just about anything.

Stupid as ****!!

Simple solution, now allow all applications, those that won't break the iPhone, it'll cut work right and allow people to buy what they want rather than this police state like store.

I'm 24 and don't like being told or governed by Apple, hence why i still refuse to buy an ipod touch or iPhone!

SORT IT OUT YOU ****ING IDIOTS...APPLE

 

[Bevz]

The music he does have the rights for, he puts up as a torrent himself.

If that is true, then I apologise for my cynicism

 

[aiterum]

yeah trent has been doing stuff like this for a while now (the first instance I can think of is putting up the closure DVD on pirate bay when interscope refused to get its act together about actually releasing it in a physical format)

also:

Too bad this Reznor fellow can't express himself without cursing. It reminds one of a child throwing a tantrum. I believe it hinders his argument and probably discourages many from giving their support to his cause. I noticed that several have commented that foul language is heard elsewhere. True, but why add to the already polluted airwaves? I don't know if I've ever heard his music, but I wouldn't buy any album from an artist that has such a limited imagination and vocabulary. Come on people, let's raise the bar. Just because we can do something, doesn't mean we have to.

i'm pretty sure you're being a troll but seriously hahaha

 

[ddTaylor]

If you think that erecting arbitrary walls is the way to go about it, more power to you. I know that I would've found ways around them and that the uncensored internet of the late-90's, to which I had unmitigated access, didn't destroy me or my brain.

Talk to your kids, teach them right from wrong, and trust them until they give you a reason not to.

Parents were able to do their job, and do it well, long before Apple built Parental Controls into OS X or iPhone OS, long before internet filters existed, and long before the god-damned V-chip. Don't use those tools as a crutch.

Talk with me when YOU have kids - until then, you are a little 'off' in your way of thinking. No one wants to keep content away from responsible adults - but a nine-year has no business accessing everything there is to be found on the Internet! If you read my previous posts you would see that NO responsible parents would not talk with their children on what it right and wrong but to give unlimited access to all that is available is irresponsible and simply uninformed. You cannot ALWAYS be with your children - and given the chance to break the rules as a child - you generally will (I did). If you teach right from wrong and impose some reasonable standards - that is a win-win situation for a parent, and Apple.

D

 

[Koronis]

The ridiculous thing here is that the supposed "objectionable content" isn't even in the app itself, it just lets someone get to it. The NIN app also lets users view the NIN.com forums, so obviously every time someone swears in the forum, the app should be removed from the app store? No.

and seriously, "Oh no he said The F word, now i can't take him seriously", ****ing grow up already. Its just a word, it can't hurt you anymore than any other word with an arbitrary meaning.

Oh no, I swore, that must mean my post is now completely pointless </sarcasm>

 

[alphaod]

This is suppose article is drawing attention to the disorganized approval process; if we are so much to pick up on the commentary and entire ignore the main topic of the discussion, such gives Apple another reason to continue in their own way of unpredictable application approval.

What's the point of having words taken out and replaced with ******* when u know exactly what they are. Same thing on TV when they beep over a bad word... Come on Apple and everyone else. We all curse and love it too....

Stop this ************ ********** ********** *********** nonsense...

Actually for non-native speakers and many children who are not worry associated with the words yet, they can't associate what it says.

Swearing is for emphasis, not for enjoyment. The latter only causes people not to listen.

 

[ChrisBrightwell]

Talk with me when YOU have kids - until then, you are a little 'off' in your way of thinking. No one wants to keep content away from responsible adults - but a nine-year has no business accessing everything there is to be found on the Internet! If you read my previous posts you would see that NO responsible parents would not talk with their children on what it right and wrong but to give unlimited access to all that is available is irresponsible and simply uninformed. You cannot ALWAYS be with your children - and given the chance to break the rules as a child - you generally will (I did). If you teach right from wrong and impose some reasonable standards - that is a win-win situation for a parent, and Apple.

So what happens when they get to college, for example, where they literally have no boundaries?