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Thats exactly my point. I don't game much. I like Pokemon and Mario Bros. If I am going to spend money on a gaming system it would be an Xbox over a 3DS, because I can get a lot more use out of an Xbox.

I just don't have time to game.
This. Just hand over Pikachu. I also want Animal Crossing. I do have a 3DS but I'm not carrying it around anymore. iPhone is always on me so when I find I'm stuck waiting somewhere the way people my age sandwiched between raising kids and taking care of elderly parents are, I can make a bit of progress on my games. For something like Super Smash Bros I'm still going to prefer 3DS but that's the kind of gaming I'd want to be at home for anyway.
 
So fine you would rather cut off your hands then play Mario on your phone, so be it.

Where are Earth are you pulling this from?

XBox people want Gears of War so you know what MS is going to do that's right come out with a NEW Gears or War and I will buy an XBox so I can play it.

Okay, so if you can buy a Xbox to play Gears of War, you can buy a 3DS or a Wii U to play Mario.
 
This. Just hand over Pikachu. I also want Animal Crossing. I do have a 3DS but I'm not carrying it around anymore. iPhone is always on me so when I find I'm stuck waiting somewhere the way people my age sandwiched between raising kids and taking care of elderly parents are, I can make a bit of progress on my games. For something like Super Smash Bros I'm still going to prefer 3DS but that's the kind of gaming I'd want to be at home for anyway.

I totally forgot about Animal Crossing. Haven't plaid that since I had an original DS.
 
I understand I may not be the target market for this, but it just seems so.... weird...

Let's get wave race on this thing, or cruisin USA, or a Zelda iteration, or a motion controlled Mario kart, or pretty much ANYTHING but this..
 
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One thing that you (and levitynyc) do is, that you only respond to parts of comments or ignore others that try to genuinely argue with you. You reply only to those parts where you can repeat the same thing over and over again, without a genuine consideration of the other side's point.

Examples:
Your view: Nintendo games on mobile cannot work (you don't know that. You are only thinking: touchscreen does not work).
Your view: Nintendo is doing great (they are clearly not both from a financial trend point of view and the market point of view with no serious major console at present).
Your view: no one wants controllers for mobile devices (there is a thriving industry producing the things - go into a Samsung flagship store. They are on display).

Hay look he did it again only cut out the parts he wanted to respond too

Where are Earth are you pulling this from?



Okay, so if you can buy a Xbox to play Gears of War, you can buy a 3DS or a Wii U to play Mario.

I wouldn't buy a crappy a$s Nintendo if it was 10$. The graphics are crap and the games are even worse. It does sound like where it's at for someone like you though.
 
Hay look he did it again only cut out the parts he wanted to respond too


Why would I quote the section of the post pertaining to Windows 10 having a start button? I don't have anything to say in regards to that.

I wouldn't buy a crappy a$s Nintendo if it was 10$. The graphics are crap and the games are even worse. It does sound like where it's at for someone like you though.

So then you're not one of the people that's posting here that wants Mario on the iPhone then I assume?

Because if you think Nintendo games are crap, I can't imagine they'd be any better on the iPhone
 
Why would I quote the section of the post pertaining to Windows 10 having a start button? I don't have anything to say in regards to that.

So people who read the thread can understand what people are talking about, your special aren't you.
 
Hay look he did it again only cut out the parts he wanted to respond too



I wouldn't buy a crappy a$s Nintendo if it was 10$. The graphics are crap and the games are even worse. It does sound like where it's at for someone like you though.
Are you saying they should remake the old games so they look better or make new games using the IP?
 
Even the Nintendo fanboys on this thread haven't been defending Miimoto as a game.

No matter how you want to spin it, I don't see how releasing a dull 3D social avatar game with a pile of in-game purchases (and months late, no less) is good news. As someone said earlier, Nintendo should go big or go home with mobile games.

I understand the argument that Nintendo doesn't want to mess with their sales on other consoles (the market will prove out that strategy or not), but I find it a bit silly when people say that Nintendo couldn't make their properties into good touch interface games if they wanted. That's supposed to be a defense of Nintendo...???
 
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Okay, so if you can buy a Xbox to play Gears of War, you can buy a 3DS or a Wii U to play Mario.

Gears of War wouldn't really be playable on the iPhone, but an emulator running old school NES & SNES Zelda, Mario, Metroid and other games can be. I know, I've played them.

I'd argue that their software output from the last ten years has been better than their first twenty years in the videogame business, and I understand that opinions differ from person to person, but I feel like they're anything but "past their prime."

Yet, they're they are miles behind MS & Sony in the market and they've been running at a loss. So basically they're only the best in your personal opinion, rather than sales and popularity, etc.

Okay, so if you can buy a Xbox to play Gears of War, you can buy a 3DS or a Wii U to play Mario.

Again, you miss the point. Nice.

So then you're not one of the people that's posting here that wants Mario on the iPhone then I assume?

Again, you limit it to Mario, despite the fact people name many other games.
 
Are you saying they should remake the old games so they look better or make new games using the IP?

If it was me I would make new versions of the old games. I would make it for both Android and iPhone and somehow interact with their console. Maybe be able to play your saved game level or something. Do multiple players on different devices with the console at the same time. That kind of stuff.
 
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They also keep repeating that these Miimoto "games" are meant to lure people to the dedicated Nintendo platform. What they don't realise is that Miimoto make sense when you ALREADY OWN a Nintendo. On their own Miimoto apps are about as interesting and useful as a pig on bath slippers doing backflips.
 
Actually, this is what I expected when Nintendo announced they will make smartphone apps. Nintendo is sooo seriously over protective of their game titles that I would expect them to either not release a mobile game featuring one of their signature characters or release a off-hand assistant for various games coming to Wii U/Nintendo NX, sort of what Bethesda is doing for Fallout 4; the Pip-Boy app.

This honestly did not surprise me at all. We all want classic Mario, Zelda, Kirby games and etc, it would be an endless money pit for them. As Nintendo is right now, I doubt it but however, they could still surprise us and if they actually do make a game featuring one of their well known characters on iOS/Android, it would be a big step forward when it comes to Nintendo games not only being made for their gaming consoles. Just IMO.
 
If it was me I would make new versions of the old games. I would make it for both Android and iPhone and somehow interact with their console. Maybe be able to play your saved game level or something. Do multiple players on different devices with the console at the same time. That kind of stuff.

In a first step, I would just release one app that has several of the biggest hits in it. Non-altered from their old version. I still have Mario, Metroid, Zelda and all the others in my muscle memory. It would be great to do the jumps over the first creatures in Mario again in the same way as I did so many years ago.
 
Even the Nintendo fanboys on this thread haven't been defending Miimoto as a game.

Because it's not really a game, it's more of a social interaction app.

Someone on another message board summed it up pretty well so I'm just gonna quote him here:

I think most people here are reading this in the really wrong way.

Let's focus on the slides on the official nintendo website:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/libr...151029/06.html

What we would like to realize is, through such communication, you will be able to deepen friendly relationships and have more people with whom you can play games.

This app will be launching (as many others have said) at the same time of My Nintendo.
It's a companion app for your nintendo account that lets you chat with people in your friend list

As the slide states it aims at making the relantionship with people in your friend list more personable.

Right now this is the way it works:

- you meet dude online playing game X
- you add him to your PSN network
- you may never talk to the guy ever again and he might just take a spot in your friend list. Some of the reasons why you may never interact with the guy again is because you are not playing the same game on the platform at the moment, and let's be honest: most people don't send PMs to random dudes they added to their friend list.

this is aiming at making you connect more with those kind of people: it's trying to make deeper connections with the random guy you added to your friend list 3 months ago.

The final objective of the app is to transform a random stranger you never talk to to a potential friend, without forcing you to harass those people and share details that they might not be interested into, making the whole process much less awkward

Call me crazy but I think it's a brilliant idea.
 
You're not paying $2.99 for Super Mario Bros. because Nintendo has been selling it on the Wii, 3DS, and Wii U for $5.00 and they don't want to devalue their NES library. As for Contra and Castlevania, go complain to Konami. As for Double Dragon, go complain to whoever the hell owns the franchise these days.

$5, whatever. Nintendo needs to realize that their biggest market in the U.S. at least, is the nostalgia angle against the millions of iOS users 25-45 years old. None of us ever used a 3DS and very few owned a Wii. Use the ports as a way to build visibility and attention back towards Nintendo gaming and then start coming out with custom iOS apps.

I understand Contra and Castlevania were 3rd party games but was just tossing out old hits as a way to make my point (though would love if old NES/SNES developers could release ports if they still exist).
 
I dunno, though if I were to guess, I don't believe this is the app Iwata was referring to when he said that.

So, what kind of Nintendo app WOULD lure people into the ecosystem if it is not this social avatar thing, but ALSO NOT true games as you keep mentioning (because touchscreen)?

You can only lure casual mobile gamers to a console if you show on the casual gaming platform how cool games from Nintendo actually are. You will not succeed if the versions they put on the mobile platform are about as interesting as the pattern of hairs on my butt.
 
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