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Nintendo Faces Investor Pressure to Bring Games to iPhone
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In my mind, the argument that Nintendo is a hardware company doesn't stand. I don't really want their hardware because it would limit me to a handful of games that have been the same for like two decades. And buying a $170 or $250 console just to play Mario or Zelda is still rather steep. Bring the games over to XBLA or iOS and I'll be more than happy to pay a premium over the majority of the game titles over there.
I've already pointed out that Nintendo can be plenty innovative when required. Heck the 3DS which is getting a kicking from the Apple fans has a glasses free 3D display. Quite honestly you are deluding yourself if you think Nintendo will give up all of what they are to become just another third party publisher.
People like you said Nintendo were doomed after the N64, then the Gamecube and now the 3DS. This is your Michael Dell moment.
This year I guess. iPhone success didn't stop DS from still doing extremely well in all the markets. It's just 3DS that's having hard time and it's more because of the device's weakness than iPhone's strenght.
Yea, Nintendo innovated the whole touch screen gaming thing you keep banging on about (but thankfully remembered that tactile physical controls are also required for a full gaming experience) and are closing in on nearly a billion games sold on the platform (at a darn sight higher average price than the Apple App Store I'd wager).
Please don't give in to this pressure. And if you do, then please, for the love of god, do not fall for the price trap and sell games for ridiculously low prices, thus leaving no money to innovate and bring out games of high quality and that actually matter. I would hate to see franchises like Zelda and Mario go to waste because there's no money to invest in new, innovative ways to control or present the games. Although, again, in my opinion it would be best to stay strong and do not give in to this pressure. Stock holders and investors may be the ones with the money, but they're certainly not the ones with any knowhow in these matters.
Think about it: how would you feel is Apple was told by investors what to do or how to innovate? I bet you are all horrified by the mere thought. And you should be. Please, let Nintendo do what they do best. If it isn't for the dedicated gaming systems' developers (Sony, Microsoft and especially Nintendo), the ways we would interact with our games would probably be the exact same way we did so fifteen years ago. Let them do what they do best, please.
Think about it: how would you feel is Apple was told by investors what to do or how to innovate? I bet you are all horrified by the mere thought. And you should be. Please, let Nintendo do what they do best. If it isn't for the dedicated gaming systems' developers (Sony, Microsoft and especially Nintendo), the ways we would interact with our games would probably be the exact same way we did so fifteen years ago. Let them do what they do best, please.
Ok.
What game-changing touchscreen phenom + App Store do they have in the works to go head to head with Android and most importantly, iOS?
And will it make calls too? Can it run other apps? Dedicated hand-held gaming isn't exactly a viable growth proposition.
They seem to be innovating far more than Apple has been in recent years. Of course just because you're innovating doesn't mean those new ideas will actually be successful and 3DS is perfect example of that.
I'm quoting this just to make sure that more people see it. This is a perfect post as to why Nintendo games on other platforms will never happen.
I don't think they have any intent to go head to head against smartphone gaming. They just want to continue to do what they did in last two decades.
Lmao
Yes, my Screen Door for Submarines idea is just way ahead of its time. It'll happen. Keep the faith.
Exactly the point.
Touchscreen controls are the best, but only when they are not trying to mimic physical controls. Surely you can play with touchscreen's virtual joystics and buttons, but they can't beat the physical controls - in a same way that iPad's touchscreen keyboard can't beat physical keyboard.
I see you are a fan of the "When you have no argument resort to childish mockery" school of discussion.
No, I'm a fan of Reality. The kind that folks like Nintendo (and Sony) can't come to grips with.
The whole Prophet gig I just do on the side.
Only way this works is if Apple lets Nintendo release their retro titles, and a retro bluetooth gamepad, to iOS.
They'd move millions of those units to all of us old guys (30+ yrs old).
Until then, it's iControlpad for me, and zero dollars for Big N.
They'd move millions of those units to all of us old guys (30+ yrs old).
Until then, it's iControlpad for me, and zero dollars for Big N.
Nah, you're out of touch with reality. 3DS and WiiU are far more innovative than anything Apple has done in recent years. I think both are terrible ideas, but they are innovative.
The biggest reason why Nintendo is in trouble right now is because they put to much focus into innovation ignoring everything else.
Flop is defined as a "total failure." Given the 3DS has already sold millions and only been out for about 4 months, it's hardly as such.
No forgetting here, it's Nintendo's console, so only they can determine its cost, and of course adjust for the market.
It was the myopic-analysts that expected the 3DS to move like the DS Lite, not Nintendo, which when compared to the original DS it's doing better
And exactly, they did what they needed, as they have in the past to always maintain a profit, even in light of a recent events which are effecting pretty much everyone.
So a company that has managed to sell over 350million dedicated portable gaming machines has one bad bump and suddenly you think they should give up and go crawling to play with the new boys toys?
I cant wait to come back to this thread after Nintendo once again revolutionise the industry with yet another innovation that has all the competition scrambling to copy.
I cant wait to come back to this thread after Nintendo once again revolutionise the industry with yet another innovation that has all the competition scrambling to copy.
Touchscreen controls for platform games like Mario are terrible. Touchscreen buttons are just rubbish.
Have a few more and then try playing a Mario platformer, that is how it will feel trying to play it on a touchscreen only interface.
Clearly a lot of non-gamers here!
I bought an iPod Touch specifically for gaming. I was going to buy a Classic but, as the handheld gaming addict I am I should just opt for the Touch.
To this day I haven't played a single game for more than 4 hours. I only got that achievement on Angry Birds because I played it in queues. Soon after I got bored of its (comparably) minor gameplay-reward cycle that is highly prevalent in Nintendo games.
It's a nice device and I wish I hadn't blown around £120 on games that I've not fully enjoyed. I bought some of those Mega Drive titles (Sonic 1+2, Golden Axe) and they're an absolute shadow of what games are on the Mega Drive Collection game for the PSP - larger screen, tactile feedback, better speakers, multiplayer from launch (2006).
Whereas on dedicated gaming devices like the PSP and 3DS, that £120 would have been put into games that I would have fully researched and played until completion. I've already got them but titles such as Peace Walker, Ocarina of Time 3DS, Pokemon Black... they're some of the best games in existence, let alone of this gen!
It isn't surprising that (an) investor(s) are saying this whilst gamers are more than happy with their devices and carry them around with them. Hell I carry a 3DS, iPod touch and PSP in my bag.
Oh and the DS had a worse start. For 1 year it had no games and only 2 million sales. The 3DS had a period of 6 months and everyone is calling doom and the 3DS launched at almost double the price. Price cut= Vita is round the corner. Theres even rumour that Sony are going to slash the price of that.
Speaking as a gamer I believe mobile phone gaming can keep the 69p games.
(What I find hilarious is that Mac users are all about the experience and how high quality it is... games on a console are the same thing! Full fat experiences, not reduced-cost minigames)
I bought an iPod Touch specifically for gaming. I was going to buy a Classic but, as the handheld gaming addict I am I should just opt for the Touch.
To this day I haven't played a single game for more than 4 hours. I only got that achievement on Angry Birds because I played it in queues. Soon after I got bored of its (comparably) minor gameplay-reward cycle that is highly prevalent in Nintendo games.
It's a nice device and I wish I hadn't blown around £120 on games that I've not fully enjoyed. I bought some of those Mega Drive titles (Sonic 1+2, Golden Axe) and they're an absolute shadow of what games are on the Mega Drive Collection game for the PSP - larger screen, tactile feedback, better speakers, multiplayer from launch (2006).
Whereas on dedicated gaming devices like the PSP and 3DS, that £120 would have been put into games that I would have fully researched and played until completion. I've already got them but titles such as Peace Walker, Ocarina of Time 3DS, Pokemon Black... they're some of the best games in existence, let alone of this gen!
It isn't surprising that (an) investor(s) are saying this whilst gamers are more than happy with their devices and carry them around with them. Hell I carry a 3DS, iPod touch and PSP in my bag.
Oh and the DS had a worse start. For 1 year it had no games and only 2 million sales. The 3DS had a period of 6 months and everyone is calling doom
and the 3DS launched at almost double the price. Price cut= Vita is round the corner. Theres even rumour that Sony are going to slash the price of that.Speaking as a gamer I believe mobile phone gaming can keep the 69p games.
(What I find hilarious is that Mac users are all about the experience and how high quality it is... games on a console are the same thing! Full fat experiences, not reduced-cost minigames)
The innovation already happened. Nintendo just needs to start making games for it.