No 32GB Standard = Slap in Face

opeepingtomo

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Good ole' fashion screwing.

Keep the 16GB model at 199 and DOUBLE the 32GB model for the same price to 64GB at 299.

I know Apple is a business and this is obviously to make is seem like you are getting "more for your money" therefore convincing more people to bite the bullet and upgrade to the 299 model when they have been hanging on to the 199 model in the past expecting it to at some point become a starting 32GB standard.

Lineup should read:

199 = 32GB, 299 = 64GB, 399 = 128GB

at the current rates why not:

199 = 16GB, 299 = 64GB, 399 = 256GB ???


-rant over-
 

TJ82

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Yep!

Always a catch with Apple. I'm inured to it after so many years.
 

solo118

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Good ole' fashion screwing.

Keep the 16GB model at 199 and DOUBLE the 32GB model for the same price to 64GB at 299.

I know Apple is a business and this is obviously to make is seem like you are getting "more for your money" therefore convincing more people to bite the bullet and upgrade to the 299 model when they have been hanging on to the 199 model in the past expecting it to at some point become a starting 32GB standard.

Lineup should read:

199 = 32GB, 299 = 64GB, 399 = 128GB

at the current rates why not:

199 = 16GB, 299 = 64GB, 399 = 256GB ???


-rant over-
The person that always bought 64gb gets a $100 discount, the person that buys the 32gb gets a bonus of double the memory. The person that buys the 16gb probably still getting a 16gb iphone.

I went from 32gb to 16gb now back to 64gb as 16gb is no longer enough. I was expecting to pay 299 for the 32gb, so I have the bonus of double the memory for that price.
 

-Knight-

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I thought for sure Apple would do away with 16gb and keep the 32gb as the lowest. After having 16gb for 4 years now it's not worth it anymore. All the apps are bigger size and every time there was an ios update I had to delete apps to make space for it.

Shocked they kept 16gb but what ever I guess lol. I went with 128gb this time around.
 

maflynn

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100 bucks more then the 16GB model and I get 64GB of storage instead of 32. That's really hard to complain ;)
 

TJ82

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The person that always bought 64gb gets a $100 discount, the person that buys the 32gb gets a bonus of double the memory. The person that buys the 16gb probably still getting a 16gb iphone.

I went from 32gb to 16gb now back to 64gb as 16gb is no longer enough. I was expecting to pay 299 for the 32gb, so I have the bonus of double the memory for that price.
Yeah guys. Apple is doing you a favour!

Couldn't make it up.
 

opeepingtomo

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i'm a 64 user, and i was freakin stoked to see i was saving $100 this time around!

I see what the goal is, make the 299 price point the most attractive and try to shift a good chunk of your user base from the 199 model to at least the 299 model.

16GB now seems like a bad deal and 128 seems like a bad deal as when you move up the next 100 dollars you only double-the-storage instead of quadrupling it.

Seriously though, its almost 2015 and the base of the new iphone should be 32GB.
 

Lancetx

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I paid $849 one year ago for a 64GB 5s and just paid $749 this time around for a 64GB iPhone 6, so definitely no complaints here.
 

Taco1933

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Yeah, I feel totally screwed for getting an extra 32gb for the same money I was going to spend.
 

mantan

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If you haven't figured it out yet, Apple's (and every other company's) primary mission to get as much of your cash as they can.

As a consumer, sure we'd all love to get 32 gig as the base model. But in pure (evil?) marketing genius, Apple knew a LOT more users would pony up $100 extra for four the memory than there were 64 gig users who thought they were getting a deal.

Look at the polls that have been out. The overwhelming majority of buyers chose the 64 gig model. Now multiply 80% of that figure $100. If those people had been a 32 gig base model they would have left a pile of cash on the table.

The crazy part is that flash memory is so cheap, it's still probably a cheaper compenent than 32 gig was a few years ago.
 

TJ82

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Basically,

Apple ripped me off less hard than I was expecting. Happy Days!

Any wonder why a certain type of 'Apple fan' gets mocked. They're just not down-to-Earth.
 

opeepingtomo

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Apple is in control and has the right to dictate, something they excel in.
I guess. Hey at least they caught up on screen-size now. Maybe on the S model we can catch up on the base model storage.

I dont need 64GB of storage nor do i want to pay an extra 100 for it. On the other hand most other phones start at 32GB. That being said im in the "apple ecosystem".

I am in the same boat as the other user. 16GB is almost enough storage for me but when its time for an OS update, its a pain in the rear to have to delete a bunch of crap just to be able to apply the OS update.
 

Vertigo50

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Everyone except the 16gb buyers are getting an upgrade, and the 16gb buyers are getting the same thing.

If it's a big deal, buy 5 less pizzas this year at $20 each, and pay $100 more for 4x the storage.
 

Steve686

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Good ole' fashion screwing.

Keep the 16GB model at 199 and DOUBLE the 32GB model for the same price to 64GB at 299.

I know Apple is a business and this is obviously to make is seem like you are getting "more for your money" therefore convincing more people to bite the bullet and upgrade to the 299 model when they have been hanging on to the 199 model in the past expecting it to at some point become a starting 32GB standard.

Lineup should read:

199 = 32GB, 299 = 64GB, 399 = 128GB

at the current rates why not:

199 = 16GB, 299 = 64GB, 399 = 256GB ???


-rant over-
NEXT on ATT defeats ALL of these up front prices. I paid $56 online, and I am getting a 128GB 6+. I also paid $49 to get a 128GB 6. Both arrive Friday. I don't feel screwed at all.
 

hasanahmad

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No here is how it works:

Apple does not want you to buy 16 GB. It wants you to buy 64 Gb. How do they do that? by introducing a 16 GB standard and the next step being 64 Gb.

Why does it do it?

Because if Apple introduced the baseline model at 32 Gb at 199 or 299 (6+) then very few would buy the higher end model 64 Gb because 32 GB fullfills their needs.

Essentially what Apple is doing that they are telling you you need more storage with these devices, if you STILL want to pay less, then here is 16 gb but if you want more storage here is 64 gb. Apple ends up making money this way as a forced upgrade to a higher price.
 

itsmemuffins

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I'm so upset I get to keep an extra €100 for my 64GB. Apple, why you no want my monies? WHY?!! :mad:
 

TJ82

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Everyone except the 16gb buyers are getting an upgrade, and the 16gb buyers are getting the same thing.

If it's a big deal, buy 5 less pizzas this year at $20 each, and pay $100 more for 4x the storage.
Yeah guys, stop eating and give your money to Apple instead :D
 

Thrifty1

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While as a customer, it would be great to get 32GB as the base model (and it will happen eventually), as an Apple investor this was the best move possible.

It was actually a brilliant move. As you said, Apple is a business. They need to keep margins and average selling prices from dropping.

Had they made the entry model 32GB, the average selling price of phones would have dropped as many who paid $100 to get 32GB in the past would be very happy with at 32GB entry model. Those purchasing 16GB models in the past can still do so. Those upgrading to 32GB in the past now feel they are getting more for their money... 48GB more for $100 versus 16GB more last year.
 

opeepingtomo

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Oct 29, 2007
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If you haven't figured it out yet, Apple's (and every other company's) primary mission to get as much of your cash as they can.

As a consumer, sure we'd all love to get 32 gig as the base model. But in pure (evil?) marketing genius, Apple knew a LOT more users would pony up $100 extra for four the memory than there were 64 gig users who thought they were getting a deal.

Look at the polls that have been out. The overwhelming majority of buyers chose the 64 gig model. Now multiply 80% of that figure $100. If those people had been a 32 gig base model they would have left a pile of cash on the table.

The crazy part is that flash memory is so cheap, it's still probably a cheaper compenent than 32 gig was a few years ago.
That is what i was implying.

Dont get me wrong, i know why they did it, it just seems like a cheapshot when the competition starts at 32GB. And the usability too... as all of the components get better, the videos and pictures each take up more room and 16GB just seems like a joke. 1080p 240fps, record 30 seconds of video on your 16GB iPhone 6 lol. Is that in the feature list?
 

TJ82

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No here is how it works:

Apple does not want you to buy 16 GB. It wants you to buy 64 Gb. How do they do that? by introducing a 16 GB standard and the next step being 64 Gb.

Why does it do it?

Because if Apple introduced the baseline model at 32 Gb at 199 or 299 (6+) then very few would buy the higher end model 64 Gb because 32 GB fullfills their needs.

Essentially what Apple is doing that they are telling you you need more storage with these devices, if you STILL want to pay less, then here is 16 gb but if you want more storage here is 64 gb. Apple ends up making money this way as a forced upgrade to a higher price.
Okay, this guy gets it. Thumbs up.
 

cynics

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100 bucks more then the 16GB model and I get 64GB of storage instead of 32. That's really hard to complain ;)

It's brilliant marketing we've come to expect from Apple.

It almost doesn't make sense to NOT give apple 100 dollars more at those prices! Lol

However if you look at it from the direction the market is going 32 for 199 and 64 for 299 Apple is just shorting you 16gb to add contrast between the models. That contrast makes it seem dumb to not upgrade and that's Apples biggest cash cow as it's nearly pure profit.

That said I'm getting the 64gb model when I'd normally get the 16gb. Lol I'm a sucker I admit!