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I'll bring the butter!

No buttered popcorn dispenser, no MBP sale!

The state of the art will eventually be not storing that movie (music, book picture, etc.) permanently on your private storage device. Hauling a multi-terabyte drive on an airplane so I can watch a movie is a bit daunting. Even getting my house properly hooked up is a pain.

No, it like the old Qwest commercial: every movie, ever made, in true HD (maybe 4K or above) anytime, for a reasonable fee. We'll need terabyte internet, of course, but it frees you from storing/backing up, etc. your movie library, worrying about the next big tech leap (I dunno, 48.8 surround in uncompressed 192kHz 48 bit?), bla bla bla, as the content adjusts automagically to your display/audio device and environment. Oh, and its wireless and self-configuring, too.

Until then, its BR for me; other things for other folks.

Eddie O
 
I believe the single biggest detriment to fulfilling our desire for Blu-Ray functionality on our Mac laptops is the lack of a reasonably priced 9.5mm slot load Blue-Ray drive. Panasonic announced one in late 2007 and I haven't been able to find it anywhere except one no name place for $775.

Even the tray loading 12.7 mm drives cost from $260 - $300 without a slim enclosure to put it in.

Seems to me some entrepreneurial sort might make some good money manufacturing such a device (unless of course the Blu-Ray laser mechanism's bulk is hampering this effort)

Cheers,
Then where is the dell studio series getting their blu ray slot loading drives?
 
'Current technology' is digital downloads. So, Apple is giving me the most current (although not highest quality) technology.

Specifications are not equal to benefits.

'be a little more up to date with these sorts of things' ? Seriously? I have over 300 movies available at a whim with a remote control that has a gorgeous interface to navigate, with artwork, movie descriptions/ratings, etc, stored on hard drives with far more capacity then BluRay discs, redundantly backed up. My child can operate this system to select a movie she wants without ever risking a physical disc.

You have to open a little plastic case and fumble with plastic discs that can be lost or scratched, can't play in the majority of computers, and if you want to switch movies you have to get up and fumble with a different plastic disc.

WHO is the one up to date with these sorts of things again?

In my opinion, if the technology is inferior (far inferior) to something else on the market, then its not current but rather "in the making". Digital download won't be current until they are fast, reasonably priced and quality. Basically I consider movies off itunes equal to that of a VHS
 
Then where is the dell studio series getting their blu ray slot loading drives?

It's still 12.7mm. Windows laptops with Bluray are thicker than Macs. I know I'm in the minority but I would take an extra 1/4"-1/3" to get Bluray. The old pre-uni 17" used 12.7mm optical drives but no more.

Cheers,
 
Basically I consider movies off itunes equal to that of a VHS

But they're not. This isn't an area where your opinion will usurp facts and evidence. iTunes content is at near DVD resolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes

On September 12, 2006, the resolution of video content sold on the iTunes Store was increased from 320x240 (QVGA) to 640x480 (VGA). The higher resolution video content is encoded as 1.5 Mbit/s (minimum) Protected MPEG-4 video (H.264) with a minimum 128 kbit/s AAC audio track.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHS

In modern-day digital terminology, VHS is roughly equivalent to 320x480 pixels with a signal-to-noise ratio of the image at 43 dB.
 
But they're not. This isn't an area where your opinion will usurp facts and evidence. iTunes content is at near DVD resolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes

On September 12, 2006, the resolution of video content sold on the iTunes Store was increased from 320x240 (QVGA) to 640x480 (VGA). The higher resolution video content is encoded as 1.5 Mbit/s (minimum) Protected MPEG-4 video (H.264) with a minimum 128 kbit/s AAC audio track.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHS

In modern-day digital terminology, VHS is roughly equivalent to 320x480 pixels with a signal-to-noise ratio of the image at 43 dB.

I'm not arguing....I was being more of a smart ass than anything.

Seriously though...this discussion goes on too much. The fact of the matter is that those who buy blu ray to watch on their HDTV may want to watch one of those movies on their laptop when traveling, and they'd like that option. I don't think most people buy blu rays for their laptops. It just I don't want to buy a movie offline or rent/buy a dvd I have on blu ray so I can watch it on a plane.

Boo Yah
 
Customers WANT everything. But the majority wins. Blu-ray fans are the smallest minority! Get that through your head. NOBODY I know in real life (and I work in IT) wants a blu-ray player in their computer, and I know 2 people who actually own one, and one is a PS3 (he has no blu-ray movies). So for the love of god, its not as 'in demand' as the people who visit these forums think. We forum members are the minority of the Apple community and usually when we want something, the majority of the market doesn't give a rats @$$.

Exactly. 0. I work in IT, and like I said, I know nobody with one in their computer, and know nobody who wants on there.

Just because everyone YOU know is behind the times doesn't mean the rest of the world is :rolleyes:

Apple computers are meant to be a premium product. Get that through YOUR head.

Only a dim wit wouldn't want a significantly better experience for minimal extra cost (and I wouldn't class most Mac users as dim wits). I'm sorry but I don't know ANYONE who would prefer standard def over high def if they had a high enough res screen to watch it on, and that screen doesn't have to be full 720p or 1080p either, that's right ALL modern Mac users would get a better experience from Blu Ray than DVD. Let me explain...

DVD resolution is 720x480, ALL Macs now come with screens of higher res. So you will get MUCH better quality from a downscaled blu ray than an upscaled DVD!

The day Apple users begin to think crap quality is acceptable is the day Apple starts to head down the pan.

Everyone else please forgive the tone of this post - I'm just reciprocating.
 
I'm not arguing....I was being more of a smart ass than anything.

Seriously though...this discussion goes on too much. The fact of the matter is that those who buy blu ray to watch on their HDTV may want to watch one of those movies on their laptop when traveling, and they'd like that option. I don't think most people buy blu rays for their laptops. It just I don't want to buy a movie offline or rent/buy a dvd I have on blu ray so I can watch it on a plane.

Boo Yah

Gotcha. I tell you though if they just allowed Managed Copy ..Blu-ray would "blow up"

I've got no desire to share movies online but I do want to take some of my favorite and make a poor man's Kaleidascape.
 
The day Apple users begin to think crap quality is acceptable is the day Apple starts to head down the pan.

How about this, when Apple came out with a product that was crap, when haven't people bought it? (recently). It has been said in this forum that Apple could release the MacBook Fail tomorrow, and people would still clamor to get it.

As for Blu-ray, I think it would be a better option financially for Apple to come out with reasonable 1080p content on the iTunes store that doesn't cost $17+ per download *cough*
 
It's still 12.7mm. Windows laptops with Bluray are thicker than Macs. I know I'm in the minority but I would take an extra 1/4"-1/3" to get Bluray. The old pre-uni 17" used 12.7mm optical drives but no more.

Cheers,

I don't know if it would splinter the market too much, but I'm now going to flip positions and argue that I would like to see ALL current Macbooks and Macbook Pro's rebranded as 'Macbook', and have a new Tier of Macbook Pro above the current line that doesn't make sacrifices required for a slim size. And put in real pro features that true professionals would want.

With the limited market, however, I just don't see Apple making enough money in this niche to make sense. They'd be trying to compete too much with Dell which is a fight they don't want to get into.
 
How about this, when Apple came out with a product that was crap, when haven't people bought it? (recently). It has been said in this forum that Apple could release the MacBook Fail tomorrow, and people would still clamor to get it.

As for Blu-ray, I think it would be a better option financially for Apple to come out with reasonable 1080p content on the iTunes store that doesn't cost $17+ per download *cough*

This is my only complaint about iTunes content - it should cost MUCH less than an equivalent DVD which has to be manufacturered, shipped multiple times, and stocked in a brick and mortar store. If that costs $15 for the DVD, the download should be $7. Instead, they are similar prices, and you don't get extras that are on the DVD. That is kind of lame.
 
Just because everyone YOU know is behind the times doesn't mean the rest of the world is :rolleyes:

Apple computers are meant to be a premium product. Get that through YOUR head.

Only a dim wit wouldn't want a significantly better experience for minimal extra cost (and I wouldn't class most Mac users as dim wits). I'm sorry but I don't know ANYONE who would prefer standard def over high def if they had a high enough res screen to watch it on, and that screen doesn't have to be full 720p or 1080p either, that's right ALL modern Mac users would get a better experience from Blu Ray than DVD. Let me explain...

DVD resolution is 720x480, ALL Macs now come with screens of higher res. So you will get MUCH better quality from a downscaled blu ray than an upscaled DVD!

The day Apple users begin to think crap quality is acceptable is the day Apple starts to head down the pan.

Everyone else please forgive the tone of this post - I'm just reciprocating.

Behind the times? I'm 20 years old, in college, and I some have rich friends so I know what blu-ray looks like. I have been exposed to every avenue of technology out there. You mention minimal extra cost. Seriously? You think Apple would charge a MINIMAL cost for adding blu-ray? How much more was the SSD upgrade for the Macbook Air? How much more is extra RAM for a Macbook Pro? To go from 4GB RAM to 8GB RAM is $1000! If you think blu-ray would be a minimal cost... you have lost your mind, completely. If I am going to watch a movie in HD, I will watch it on the expensive 1080p TV, not a mobile computer, that does NOT have a replaceable battery.

I don't care what the 15" displays can pump out, or what resolution DVD's are. I have seen blu-ray movies, and yeah they look cool but the players are expensive, the movies are expensive, and its not an option most of the market cares for in their portable computers. It simply isn't. Walk around on the street if you don't believe me and ask random people if they would be willing to spend an extra $300 for a blu-ray player in their laptop. I would love to see the results of that. Sure, lots of people here probably would, but they don't represent the average customer so realistically their wants don't count.
 
I don't know if it would splinter the market too much, but I'm now going to flip positions and argue that I would like to see ALL current Macbooks and Macbook Pro's rebranded as 'Macbook', and have a new Tier of Macbook Pro above the current line that doesn't make sacrifices required for a slim size. And put in real pro features that true professionals would want.
Agreed. Quad-core and better GPUs to start with. Maybe 4 RAM slots or 2 HDD bays.
 
I'd be pretty annoyed if they stuck a BR drive in a MBP.. I'd never use it, and it'd only add unnecessary weight and price. BR is a luxury that many people, like myself, really have no interest in right now.

I want Apple to get faster processors and better graphics cards into their machines before they start sticking in new drives.
 
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