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Photos tab is sorted by location as well. Actually, Cameral Roll is sorted by when the picture was added. If you save a photo from the web, it'll add it to the end of the cameral roll rather than when the pic was taken.

That's not true. I saved many photos to the web which had EXIF data, causing the image to be placed elsewhere in the camera roll.
 
I also do not understand how "recently added" is sorting photos at all!

I did some testing:
Empty iPad Air and empty iPhone 5s (both iOS 8 GM of course!), "recently added" is totally empty on both devices.
iCloud photostream is turned on on both devices but iPad stayed at home in Flight-Mode while I was at work, so iPad hat no connection what so ever.

So at work, I took 3 pictures (at 6:00am, 6:03am and 6:20am).
When I was back home, I took another picture (4:30pm).
All 4 pictures are correcty sorted by time they were taken in "recently added" on iPhone.

I then turned on iPad, waited some seconds and my pictures were added to "recently added" on iPad as well but in a totally messed-up order! :mad:
They were sorted like so: (6:03am, 4:30pm, 6:00am and 6:20am).
What the hell, Apple?!?
What happens if I have more pictures during time? It'll be a mess! Sorting will be totally out of place!

When you open the pictures on iPad, the correct date/time-values are displayed, only the sorting is... lets call it weird! :(

-Cobold
 
I also do not understand how "recently added" is sorting photos at all!

I did some testing:
Empty iPad Air and empty iPhone 5s (both iOS 8 GM of course!), "recently added" is totally empty on both devices.
iCloud photostream is turned on on both devices but iPad stayed at home in Flight-Mode while I was at work, so iPad hat no connection what so ever.

So at work, I took 3 pictures (at 6:00am, 6:03am and 6:20am).
When I was back home, I took another picture (4:30pm).
All 4 pictures are correcty sorted by time they were taken in "recently added" on iPhone.

I then turned on iPad, waited some seconds and my pictures were added to "recently added" on iPad as well but in a totally messed-up order! :mad:
They were sorted like so: (6:03am, 4:30pm, 6:00am and 6:20am).
What the hell, Apple?!?
What happens if I have more pictures during time? It'll be a mess! Sorting will be totally out of place!

When you open the pictures on iPad, the correct date/time-values are displayed, only the sorting is... lets call it weird! :(

-Cobold

I noticed that; I also noticed photos being added to "Recently Added" which don't belong there, such as pics synced to the phone from iTunes. And these photos, some of which have timestamps YEARS in the past, end up in there AFTER photos I just took!
 
I noticed that; I also noticed photos being added to "Recently Added" which don't belong there, such as pics synced to the phone from iTunes. And these photos, some of which have timestamps YEARS in the past, end up in there AFTER photos I just took!
Right! I saw that before my tests with the totally empty devices, too. It was a total mess!
That lead me to the further testing, actually.

It is simply weird!
Not talking about how to delete fotos from the iPhone (and ONLY from the iPhone).
My mom is planning on getting an iPhone 6 with only 16GB (she'll upgrading from an iPhone 4)! It will be one of her first questions how to delete a photo only from her iPhone but not from the PhotoStream, so that she can still have them on her iPad mini. She could easily do it before with iOS7...
By now, I simply have to tell her that it is impossible without connecting the iPhone to a PC or Mac! :mad:
 
Right! I saw that before my tests with the totally empty devices, too. It was a total mess!
That lead me to the further testing, actually.

It is simply weird!
Not talking about how to delete fotos from the iPhone (and ONLY from the iPhone).
My mom is planning on getting an iPhone 6 with only 16GB (she'll upgrading from an iPhone 4)! It will be one of her first questions how to delete a photo only from her iPhone but not from the PhotoStream, so that she can still have them on her iPad mini. She could easily do it before with iOS7...
By now, I simply have to tell her that it is impossible without connecting the iPhone to a PC or Mac! :mad:

I'm hoping this is a bug (I see it also on two devices). It makes photos useless when they are all jumbled like that after a restore.
 
The no camera roll is annoying, yes, there's the recently added folder, but who knows how many days will be there, lets say a month, so, you download a photo from dropbox but it was taken 6 months ago (but you don't remember that) so, you have your photo in recently added for future use, after a month you need that photo, you go to recently added and it's no longer there, so you go to photos tab collections/moments, but have no idea when you took it, you will have to go thru all the photos just to find it, if it was in camera roll you'll just go back thru the pictures you took in the last month, easy.

I just don't get it, why Apple removed Camera Roll.
 
Again, if you all haven't noticed, strangely the camera roll still exists for the photo picker like in Messages, for instance.
 
I don't hate the new Photos app, but I definitely see the flaws as I'm using it. And yeah, I did save some wallpaper and it created a new "moment" based on where it was shot.

They've taken the best features of iPhoto, and pretty much adapted it to it. I don't like it either. It really should be a choice. And not just because it works better, but you have to remember that this is where EVERYTHING we save on our iPhones go. Whether it be when we take a screenshot, save something from Tumblr, etc, etc.

Most of us don't even KEEP our photos on our devices, choosing to back them up to our hard drives and wherever else.

You really should have an option to just have a plain camera roll for that reason.
 
I don't hate the new Photos app, but I definitely see the flaws as I'm using it. And yeah, I did save some wallpaper and it created a new "moment" based on where it was shot.

They've taken the best features of iPhoto, and pretty much adapted it to it. I don't like it either. It really should be a choice. And not just because it works better, but you have to remember that this is where EVERYTHING we save on our iPhones go. Whether it be when we take a screenshot, save something from Tumblr, etc, etc.

Most of us don't even KEEP our photos on our devices, choosing to back them up to our hard drives and wherever else.

You really should have an option to just have a plain camera roll for that reason.

Exactly, the "photos" tab is real nice with Collections and Moments, if gives you a good outline of places and time taken, but, leave the camera roll, so much easier to find photos, why change it to "recently taken" just leave camera roll.
 
what happens if i delete a pic from my iphone btw will i still have access to the version from the cloud and itll require an internet connection to view it? id like to have them stored in the cloud and only pull them using the internet when i click on the locally stored tiny thumbnail. would save lots of space
 
True, you can't delete the folder but I actually like the concept of a second delete. It's like a recycle bin in case you make a mistake. Also, you dont have to wait 30 days to get rid of the deleted photos...you can go in and delete again in that folder.

I like this idea because I have definitely deleted photos myself and people have deleted them.

But I still only used camera roll :) I guess I am one of the weird ones.
 
I also do not see that option. Not that I'm willing to use it yet even if it were there, so I don't mind.

I'm a little confused. I often take multiple pictures and go through my camera roll later. With camera roll gone are pictures you take in their own album?

Also, if you don't use iCloud photo library can you still use Photo Stream? I have all my photos organized on my Mac and I sync them to my phone, I only use the camera roll and photo stream as temporary storage.
 
Ugh, this is ridiculous. Facebook updated their app yet I still can't share old photos from the app.

And lack of camera roll is probably the reason why Dropbox is having issues with auto photo upload
 
Love everyone trying to justify the loss of something that's been around forever. You can't tell me that even providing an OPTION to keep the view as it were in the older camera roll format wasn't possible. Here's why it sucks.



If I want to reference a photo to simply show someone I now have to know when it was taken? Not only that but the dates on the photo (assume it's pulling from EXIF data) is incorrect on roughly half of my photos putting them in a place they don't belong. This, along with battery life are my only complaints so far of iOS 8.


It's quite funny 18 months ago coming from android I moaned loads about how annoying the camera roll was.. I now use it EVERY day! I'm sure when I do get around to updating to ios8 I'll moan again lol
 
You take a picture, its in one place. The photos. Not sure why this is hard to understand.
 
You take a picture, its in one place. The photos. Not sure why this is hard to understand.
I is not.
But how do I delete a Photo lets say just from my iPhone without deleting it from the cloud as well? Deleting a photo from "recently taken" alway deletes it from "everywhere", it even says so in the warning-message. :confused:

And why is the sorting so weird?
 
I is not.
But how do I delete a Photo lets say just from my iPhone without deleting it from the cloud as well? Deleting a photo from "recently taken" alway deletes it from "everywhere", it even says so in the warning-message. :confused:

And why is the sorting so weird?

It just isn't necessary. The last thing anyone wants is managing whats on their device vs. whats in the cloud. That is not how it works any longer, and was not a good solution when it was how it worked with Photostream.

If you delete a photo, you delete a photo. If you keep a photo, you keep a photo. Everywhere.

If you are concerned about storage on your device, there is a BRILLIANT new addition that allows you to optimize space on your device. This offloads every to iCloud and keeps just thumbnails on your device. As soon as you call up a photo or video, it instantly downloads the whole file, much like how iTunes Match works. I would recommend everyone do this.
 
Sadly this learning curve is going to be steep. When all the pics taken on my camera where in an album (camera roll) I could download them easily onto my mac for proper storage. Now, it is unclear how this works. Maybe if I used iPhoto it would be different but I dont. I have albums stored as folders on my mac which is how I sync my phone

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Apple will need to bring this back. It is bizarre to have thousands of photos in "Photos" not in an album, sorted by date or random location.
 
It just isn't necessary. The last thing anyone wants is managing whats on their device vs. whats in the cloud. That is not how it works any longer, and was not a good solution when it was how it worked with Photostream.

If you delete a photo, you delete a photo. If you keep a photo, you keep a photo. Everywhere.

If you are concerned about storage on your device, there is a BRILLIANT new addition that allows you to optimize space on your device. This offloads every to iCloud and keeps just thumbnails on your device. As soon as you call up a photo or video, it instantly downloads the whole file, much like how iTunes Match works. I would recommend everyone do this.
Okaaay, maybe I am still not getting this new way it works.
But I somehow have to manage what is stored on my device. By default every photo I take is stored lokally and uploaded, right? How do I set it up to only upload the Photos and not store them locally?
On my 64GB I don't really matter, but my mom will run in exactely that problem sooner or later wirh her 16 GB...
 
The only positive thing I see is the separation of videos from photos which, in camera roll, used to be commingled and was problematic as only pics would get backed up to the cloud. Now videos are separate which might actually help syncing.
 
I haven't got 8 downloaded yet but I was shocked when I heard about this. No camera roll? WTF was Apple thinking. I take LOTS of photos and love the camera roll.

Not a happy customer but I'll wait and see exactly how it works once I get it installed.





:apple:
 
Sadly this learning curve is going to be steep. When all the pics taken on my camera where in an album (camera roll) I could download them easily onto my mac for proper storage. Now, it is unclear how this works. Maybe if I used iPhoto it would be different but I dont. I have albums stored as folders on my mac which is how I sync my phone

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Apple will need to bring this back. It is bizarre to have thousands of photos in "Photos" not in an album, sorted by date or random location.


I'm being told by iPhoto that it is not compatible with iOS8 and do I want to migrate data to 'Photos'.

Is this the end of iPhoto?
 
I just installed iOS 8 and am not seeing the option to save "optimized versions" on the device with the full resolution photos on icloud? Did this make it into the GM?
 
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