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I see a WHOLE lot of entitlement issues in this thread, not to name any names, but common. If you have a 3g or 3gs, AND the ability to upgrade or the money to buy a the 4, why didn't you?

Because as a student it was my placement year and I got accepted to go to Canada. Can't afford upfront cost and can't get stuck in a contract either. I'll be back home for August and would like to be able to bin my iPhone 3G but I'm not putting out good money on a phone that'll be over a year old.
 
Looks like Apple needed more time to add LTE, because LTE might become available to a good share of the market by Dec. AT&T buying tmobile and Verizon had head start on its LTE deployment, Apple probably had this design change in Feb. It probably require more testing. So, we probably see the new iPhone launch in Oct.
 
If these trends continue (and delaying a hardware refresh does not help change these trends), mid to long term we might start to see a situation where the iOS ecosystem is not the dominant force anymore.

now that's a reasonable debate. however, they already have so many iOS devices out there and the brand recognition is high even among computer illiterates. Suggesting that a big gaming developer will just up and shun the userbase just stinks of doomsday hyperbole.
 
Good news for me a 3GS owner who skipped the 4*, now I'll have enough money saved to get a Canon 5D Mark iii this year, off to Canonrumors.com I go!

* Not really good news, but if Apple comes out with iPhone 4GS in 2011 and it is what posters REPEATEDLY say is going to be like the upgrade from 3G to 3GS (we can make a drinking game for every time that is said on Macrumors), I will wait for the 2012 iPhone.

3GS is good enough as it is to last til next year.
 
Yes, and 2. and 3. are more and more lagging behind Android in iOS. Keep ignoring the competition and keep believing "Apple will all make it work". Seems to me they are repeating their mistakes of the 80s.

Wall Street disagrees with you, so when people put their money down, they do it on Apple.

If you view the 21st-century phone market the same as the 1980s PC market, you need to do more research. Those two markets will never act the same because the parameters creating the respective markets are so wildly different. Furthermore the world has changed in those 30 years, and now the dominant purchasing force for 21st-century smart phones does not resemble the dominant purchasing force for 1980s PCs. What worked then will not work now, and companies who create new paradigms (Apple) get the advantage over the copycats (Android).
 
You do understand, don't you, that your iPhone does not implode on its 2 year birthday, and that AT&T does not cut off your service at 2 years?

My god... the people on this list sound like a bunch of 4 year olds who want their Happy Meal NOOOWWWWWW!!!!!

yes but i want my iPhone 5 now!!!
 
All I can say is too bad for those who held out on iPhone 4 for a chance to upgrade to iPhone 5...

Get the iPhone 4 now! :apple:

And get a shatter-prone phone with antenna issues?

No thanks -- I'll hold onto my 3GS (which can survive a drop and doesn't lose signal when I hold it) until Apple decides to make a proper phone again.
 
Apple will release the next iPhone on WWDC. There's too much expectation at this point that if Apple didn't do that, they will lose a lot of positive PR they have been enjoying for the past couple of years. Remember how people were doubting about the iPad 2 being announced that early? Well, we have the iPad 2.

I can see though that the next iPhone will be like the 3GS to the 3G. Same form factor. Apple may redesign the antenna and glass back and whatnot, but the overall form factor will stay the same. The improvements will mostly be internal, eg. dual-core A5, faster graphic, faster RAM, NFC, etc etc.
 
Cheap Trick

I don't get how people can view the iPhone design as dated (assuming externals here). I've been playing around with several Android phones lately, and they are all horrible cheap, plastic toys in comparison. I was surprised to find that even Android, the OS, is still slow, jerky and unpolished versus the good old iOS...edit...

Agree about most of the Android phones. They ARE cheap looking - they have a cheap feel to them. I can wait.
 
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now that we see this the next iphone will lunch with both at&t and Verizon at the SAME TIME , BY 2012 BOTH WILL HAVE THEIR LTE NETWORKS UP AND RUNNING WHICH WILL SET WAY FOR A LTE IPHONE 5
 
Yes, except as I stated earlier, we're now starting to see the tipping point where Android is becoming more lucrative than iOS and the installed based there is getting larger than Apple's installed base.
We are nowhere near either one of those points. Android development is much less profitable than iOS development, in part because of a much smaller overall base (one nice quarter of sales does not change that) but mostly because 99.99999% of Android users have no intention of spending even as little as $0.99 for an app. Most of them got their phones for "free" (with contract), why would anyone think they are going to pay for software?
 
And get a shatter-prone phone with antenna issues?

No thanks -- I'll hold onto my 3GS (which can survive a drop and doesn't lose signal when I hold it) until Apple decides to make a proper phone again.

My shatter prone phone survived a fall from my hand at chest height onto hardwood (not laminate) flooring.

No case. Nothing.

Not a scratch.
 
We are nowhere near either one of those points. Android development is much less profitable than iOS development, in part because of a much smaller overall base (one nice quarter of sales does not change that) but mostly because 99.99999% of Android users have no intention of spending even as little as $0.99 for an app. Most of them got their phones for "free" (with contract), why would anyone think they are going to pay for software?

Look, we are there, no matter how much you want to deny it :

http://recombu.com/news/pocket-lege...more-money-on-android-than-iphone_M13563.html

And 1 quarter ? Android has been on a growth spurt for the last year and a half. It has caught up to iOS or close to in market share and it's poised to grow even more.

Please, if you're going to argue, do not distort the facts.

now that's a reasonable debate. however, they already have so many iOS devices out there and the brand recognition is high even among computer illiterates. Suggesting that a big gaming developer will just up and shun the userbase just stinks of doomsday hyperbole.

I'm discussing mid to long term. This "delay" is not helping the installed base. If they do ship a dual core phone in September when other vendors are previewing/close to shipping Quad core SoC based phones, the gap will only grow. With things like Sony getting into the Arena with the Xperia Play (let's face it, these processor cores aren't much use outside of gaming really...), Apple could be left hurting if they don't step up their game a little.

I'm sure Apple is quite aware of all of this, seeing how they have put a large emphasis on gaming on iOS. I just hope they don't drop the ball long enough. Also, a problem of the mobile space is that it is fickle. People move on to bigger and better devices much faster than they do with computers.
 
I could have wrote the same kind of 'report' when I saw the title in the WWDC invitation.
 
Bottom line, want a new phone? Get iPhone 4, wanna wait? You can do that too. Buy something else? Your welcome to. Stuck in a contract? That sucks, you signed it.

Here is the bottom line for you: don't like what people write? Don't read it!
If I want to complain, I will complain. Deal with it.
 
Look, we are there, no matter how much you want to deny it :

http://recombu.com/news/pocket-lege...more-money-on-android-than-iphone_M13563.html

And 1 quarter ? Android has been on a growth spurt for the last year and a half. It has caught up to iOS or close to in market share and it's poised to grow even more.

Please, if you're going to argue, do not distort the facts.



I'm discussing mid to long term. This "delay" is not helping the installed base. If they do ship a dual core phone in September when other vendors are previewing/close to shipping Quad core SoC based phones, the gap will only grow. With things like Sony getting into the Arena with the Xperia Play (let's face it, these processor cores aren't much use outside of gaming really...), Apple could be left hurting if they don't step up their game a little.

I'm sure Apple is quite aware of all of this, seeing how they have put a large emphasis on gaming on iOS. I just hope they don't drop the ball long enough. Also, a problem of the mobile space is that it is fickle. People move on to bigger and better devices much faster than they do with computers.

The Xperia Play is Single Core (so I don't think it helps your argument).
 
Steve declared 2011 the year of iPad 2, so it makes perfect sense for the iPhone to be left to later on.

Besides if one takes these articles / announcements / news items, with a grain of salt it's more entertaining.

Steve is a big boy, he knows how to manipulate nearly everything to Apples advantage. I enjoy that aspect because after 15+ years as a big shareholder, while I watch them go mainstream, the pleasure I relish comes from my financial gain. Having paid under $20.00 per share when I made my first heavy investment, I had a good feeling about the company whose computers I used. My faith in Apple was strong thus I kept buying more shares year after year. Between that and the ten years of my Microsoft stock growth, that's been far more exciting than any of their products.

Oh sure my personal preference to date has been with Apple, but as I watch them dilute OS X by blending in iOS, I'm losing interest in Apples Computers.

I'm convinced as I've watched Apple become the Fisher Price of iToys, that serious technological advancements are of no longer of interest to Steve. The smart move he's demonstrated, is to dumb down their products so they appeal to the masses. That's what works in retailing and Apple's got it down cold. It's going to be another great year for Apple Investors :)
 
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