No Hardware Announcements at WWDC 2011? [Updated: No New iPhone Until FY 2012?]

[Slim02]

This thread is about the iPhone, why would we talk about Japan? This thread is what it is. If you are offended then climb back in your hybrid and hug a tree or something.

Daily life does not come to a standstill becuase of a natural disaster that happened two weeks ago in another part of the world.

I hate to brake it to you but that is the reason why the iPhone is being pushed back.. Because Japan is where some of it parts are coming from.. So if Japan is not making parts then there are no parts for the iPhone.... So yes the natural disaster in Japan will hurt the iphone 5... Again people caring about a phone that is not going to end their life just because it not coming out this year.. It sad really how people are crying and bitching about this.. Really sad..

 

[2IS]

Even if what you're saying is true, which itself is questionable. That changes nothing of what I said to you. We aren't going to dedicate all our time away from our interests to talk about Japan. I donated to the red cross which is more than most people do and when in this thread, I'd like to talk about the iPhone, not Japan. Your failure to understand such simple concepts is the only sad thing going on here. Like I said, this is about iPhone. If you are offended, go do whatever it is that people like you do. If you feel that strongly about it, stop wasting your and our time here, buy a plane ticket and go help out with the clean up effort over there.

 

[Slim02]

Even if what you're saying is true, which itself is questionable. That changes nothing of what I said to you. We aren't going to dedicate all our time away from our interests to talk about Japan. I donated to the red cross which is more than most people do and when in this thread, I'd like to talk about the iPhone, not Japan. Your failure to understand such simple concepts is the only sad thing going on here. Like I said, this is about iPhone. If you are offended, go do whatever it is that people like you do. If you feel that strongly about it, stop wasting your and our time here, buy a plane ticket and go help out with the clean up effort over there.

Your not getting the damn point... I own a iPhone 4 and I love the phone but I not going to get mad or cry just because it going to miss a year or come out later then it usually comes out... There are more important things in life then a phone.. Yes it sucks if it happens but some people are really sad.. I mean just because the iPhone 5 does not come out they going to go get a Andoird phone.. That right there is lame and sad.. Again the world not going to come to a end just because the iPhone 5 is not coming out this year..

 

[AndrewR23]

Everywhere I go, people bring up JAPAN!
THIS IS AN iPHONE THREAD. MACRUMORS.

You don't know the iPhone 5 is being pushed back by the Japan disaster so don't even mention it.

 

[2IS]

Your not getting the damn point... I own a iPhone 4 and I love the phone but I not going to get mad or cry just because it going to miss a year or come out later then it usually comes out... There are more important things in life then a phone.. Yes it sucks if it happens but some people are really sad.. I mean just because the iPhone 5 does not come out they going to go get a Andoird phone.. That right there is lame and sad.. Again the world not going to come to a end just because the iPhone 5 is not coming out this year..

It's you who isn't getting the point. This isn't about Japan, period end of story.

 

[Winnychan213]

I hate to brak it to you but that is the reason why the iPhone is being pushed back.. Because Japan is where some of it parts are coming from.. So if Japan is not making parts then there are no parts for the iPhone.... So yes the natural disaster in Japan will hurt the iphone 5... Again people caring about a phone that is not going to end their life just because it not coming out this year.. It sad really how people are crying and bitching about this.. Really sad..

You should be ashame of yourself for not talking about the Chinese during world war 2 in an iphone thread!

 

[sniffies]

You people that care about a damn phone then people are sad... Just because you do not get your new phone... Japan just got hit big and you people are cry like babies and it sad.. You could care more about Japan then a damn phone.... All I see is a lot of nothing more then sad a$$ people here....

You know, my Japanese friends here in NY, they still go on with their lives. Maybe you should too.

 

[Slim02]

It's you who isn't getting the point. This isn't about Japan, period end of story.

I get the point and my point is it stupid to cry over a phone just because it getting delayed.. But I think you will still not get the point any ways..

You know, my Japanese friends here in NY, they still go on with their lives. Maybe you should too.

Oh I going on with my life because I am not "crying over a phone" just because it gots delayed.. People that cry over a phone because it getting delayed is sad and lame.. There are more important things in life then a phone..

You should be ashame of yourself for not talking about the Chinese during world war 2 in an iphone thread!

You could be ashamed of yourself for posting a stupid remark on a iPhone thread.....

 

[dukebound85]

So your attitude is "if I can't have it, I don't want anyone to have it."?

Whether it comes out or not, you won't be getting one. So why would it matter either way?

So the latest apps are optimized for the ip4 and not for the ip5!

 

[ssk2]

You go ahead and move to another platform. That just means you lose all the money you've invested into App store apps.

It's hard to imagine myself moving to another phone platform and losing all the money I've spent on apps.

This is a very odd attitude to take... So if (in the unlikely circumstance) the next iPhone doesn't fit your needs, or you don't like it (seems slightly unlikely with your close attitude), you will stick by it for the reason that you've 'invested' money on Apps?!

 

[Saladinos]

Why because it doesn't have a dual core processor, 1GB of RAM and a 3D screen with 5G radio?

It's surprising (given the way that android phones have been jumping on the latest spec bumps as soon as they can) that there aren't more dual-core phones out there.

The iPhone 4 is matching them pretty well. Android handsets have been focussing on '4G' marketing jargon. That's currently not a problem for Apple, given the very low availability of true 4G (LTE) networks globally.

These better both be big updates, though. From the rumours we've been seeing, I would guess that iOS5 is the holdup. Since it will be released so late, the iPhone's got to slip a little.

 

[ssk2]

Please explain the complacency?

The iPhone is the top selling smart phone in the world and people are still buying it. I think it would be a smart move for Apple to wait a year before releasing a brand new iPhone (although I'm not ruling out a minor upgrade in the midterm). Just think of the hype that Apple will have if they introduce a newly designed iPhone next year.

And think of lost business from people eligible for an upgrade switching for whatever reason (and this thread shows there are people like that). Both of our comments are hyperbole, I just don't see how you can put an entirely positive spin on something that COULD be damaging.

Now let's discuss your comment of "no new iPhone means no return business".

That's too funny. I know many people who have decided to purchase iPad 2's this year instead of a new iPhone. Which means more money for Apple and hooking people further into iOS. Simply brilliant.

Just as I know people who have decided to leave the iOS system this year because they've felt the iPad 2 doesn't fit their needs and who are moving to new contracts with rapidly moving Android platform phones. Don't get me started on a number of 'businessy' type friends who are sycked about the range of new BBs coming out soonish.

Imagine if Apple can get their customer base to buy a new iPhones and iPads on alternating years.

Also remember, most people aren't like you. They don't like buying new phones every year and they don't like feeling like their phone is old either. If you want to go experiment with a new toy/phone, go for it. Like everyone I know who tried an Android product you'll be scratching head wondering why you ever switched.

Ehhh.... more hyperbole for me I'm afraid. I dabbled extensively with friends' Android phones and there are parts of their system I LOVE. Of course, there are many, many bits Apple do better, but competition is catching up quickly.

I don't think having two year cycle is a bad thing IN THE FUTURE. However, doing it now, at a point which I consider a tipping point for smartphones, could be very costly. Of course, the iPhone won't sink away into oblivion but Android is on the march, RIM could be about to steal back their corporate marketshare with their new phones. I don't know if Apple holding back the next iPhone for 3/4/12 months(?) is necessarily a good idea with the competition on the march.

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[LightSpeed1]

No Hardware!

Is it true?

 

[walangij]

If iOS5 is a new revamped ui, with notificatiins, widgets, ect then everyone will be happy to wait. And if iOS 5 is for Iphone 4+ then it'll get users to upgrade before the hardware update. I can see the commercials promoting notifications and widgets like they are brand new. And people will buy it.

 

[silversin]

Hmm didn't sone major blogs posted that there was no iPad 2 until September? Same B.S. story here?

Anyways.. The first iPad was shown on January and was in the stores in March. The next iPhone could be shown on June 6, but be in stores in September. I don't think it would we wise for Apple just to keep their mouth shut abaout new hardware on June 6.

 

[fluffer]

Not cool. Coming from an iPhone 3GS, I seriously don't want to wait.

Exactly, it'll be a real bummer! They might even lose a lot of 24 month 3G S customers to Android?!

 

[ivan2002]

So you felt mislead and made a fool of because you couldn't get a white iPhone 4? That's sad.

If Apple releases the white iPhone 4 in June will you buy it and no longer feel foolish?

I didn't realize how much of competitive advantage a white iPhone 4 was. No wonder the iPhone 4 was such a failure.

What makes Apple better than the competition is that they make both the hardware and the software. That is the competitive advantage that Android devices do not have.

Apple doesn't make the hardware, they DESIGN it. It's the external design that sells their products, that's why they lead in devices that people carry on their person and lag in devices that sit on desks and in offices. As for the white thing, it's just that my taste is a bit more sophisticated than most consumers'. Btw, Nokia used to make both the hardware and the software. Much good that did them.

 

[fluffer]

Apple delaying hardware releases isn't so bad - sure it might not be the best news for people just ready for a new device, but it's not that they absolutely need hardware updates; the iPhone 4 hardware is still really capable.

What about the tens of thousands of 3G S owners bought on launch day?

 

[pepitko]

It would be kind of unusual to break their product cycle like that, but hey things happen. But I'm sure they'll introduce the Thunderbridge iMacs before or at the event.

 

[vvebsta]

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I don't see why everyone is complaining. A fresh new iOS update will make the phone feel brand new again. They can easily boost the processor speed or camera quality without changing the design. what more do you want?

 

[makingdots]

Apple doesn't make the hardware, they DESIGN it. It's the external design that sells their products,

So the System on a Chip is an external design.
So the remarkable un-removable battery is an external design.
So the retina display is considered just an external design.

Apple made the hardware they combined it all together, just like your branded motherboard.
Let's say an Asus Motherboard that have Japan capacitors, Nvidia/Ati/Intel chipsets, Realtek/Intel/Marvell NICS, etc
You're trying to say that Asus didn't made that motherboard, they just design it and it's the external design that sells?

 

[ssk2]

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I don't see why everyone is complaining. A fresh new iOS update will make the phone feel brand new again. They can easily boost the processor speed or camera quality without changing the design. what more do you want?

And if it requires an iPhone 4 to utilise those upgrades? Could be some annoyed 3GS owners out there...

 

[VicMacs]

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Why because it doesn't have a dual core processor, 1GB of RAM and a 3D screen with 5G radio?

It's the usual geek misconception of what a device needs. They are all about checklist items. And thus they are missing the fact that a major paradigm shift is occurring in this world where the far larger non-tech audience is now buying tech toys. This audience does not know much about specs, and cares even less. All they care about is cost (Apple is right there in phones), how their apps work (just great on the iPhone), choice of apps (no one has more choice than Apple), and what they have read or heard about (Apple is the advertising leader).

So geeks will continue to stamp their feet and pout about checklists that Apple is "failing" at. The rest of the world will keep happily using their amazing iPhones.

On the dot

 

[macman312]

Sort of relieved no iPhone 5 announcements, Im firmly bogged down into a 2 year contract.

Then if it came out next year it would be perfect timing HOWEVER people who have a piece of S*** sony erricson brick (eg me) would like to know either
1. Wait till the end of june till my contract ends OR
2. Buy a iphone 4

Also apple (steve if you read these posts which you probably don't)
If you don't release a iphone 5 which for people with 3G's and 3GS's will be just when their contracts end.... again.... me I am going to look at a 1 year HTC phone contract till the iphone 5 comes out. People What should I do??

 

[scottnj1966]

This has to be the worst thread ever.

I sure hope it is not true. I still know people that can upgrade but will not get the iphone 4 because of the issue's it has. They have been waiting for the replacement. I am sure there are many. Apple most know this also.

And dont start in about these non-issues. The antenna is not an issue for me because I use a case, but when I take that off, it beomes ones instantly.
After two replacement phones I still have an issue with the proximity sensor. That's the one that really upsets me. I an tired of muting myself or worse yet putting them on hold. I really want a new phone too.

I am sure this rumor is wrong. Apple is not going to sit aside and let other companies take over their slot because of speed and to keep a flawed phone on the market.

Thats my take.